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#1 sgniwder99

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:46 AM

Tiny bit of background: I play golf because my dad played golf when I was a kid, and got me into it. He didn't take it too seriously or anything; just played for fun. So growing up, my dad was my main playing partner, and I was his. After I moved away, he pretty much stopped playing altogether. In the last couple of years, however, two things have happened: 1) I have gotten much more serious about the game; and 2) my dad has retired. I think the combination of my enthusiasm for the game and the sudden glut of free time he has on his hands have given him the itch to get back into it. So my mom called me the other day, and tells me that she's going to buy him some clubs for his birthday, and she wants me to help him shop for them and pick them out. I am, as you might imagine, pretty psyched about this. I'm really happy that my dad is getting back into the game, and who doesn't love shopping with other people's money?;)

So anyway, I have a pretty good idea of what irons and woods he might want to look at and try out, but I'm not sure about wedges. Dad was an okay player back in the day (he could shoot in the low 80s when he was playing well), but obviously he's going to be really rusty now. So I'm thinking a standard set of small-headed blade wedges might be a little demanding for him as he gets back into it. Also, he's really only used to playing with a PW and a SW, so I don't imagine that at this age he's going to want to become a 4-wedge player. So versatility will probably also be pretty important, as he'll probably only end up wanting a SW to go along with the PW that comes with whatever set he buys.

Right now, I've got my eye on the new Ping Eye2 XG for him. I've never played Eye2's, but I hear that the sole is supposed to be extremely versatile, and I imagine the cavity-back design should make it a bit more forgiving than a blade. So it seems like it ticks off all the boxes. But I'd like to know if people have thoughts about them, or any other easier-to-play wedges that are out there right now that might suit a guy getting back into the game after over a decade away from it.

Thanks in advance, guys!

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 10:18 AM

Yeah, definitely the eye2 xg's.  Also check out the Cleveland CG16.  Another thing to think about is getting the SW to match the iron set.
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 10:21 AM

CG14's seemed to be really easy to hit.  I'd say don't worry too much about forgiveness and find the right grind and bounce for him.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 11:18 AM

Try and find a Ping iWedge.  Most forgiving wedge made.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 12:12 PM

CG14 or 16s are a good shout

Maybe Mizuno mx or the newer jpx wedges?

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 12:16 PM

I don't think you can go wrong if you get your father Ping gear from top to bottom.  Certainly seems like a good choice to me.  What a cool gift to help with!  Hope he enjoys the game again and you guys get to play often!
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 12:18 PM

CG11 and CG16

I reshafted the CG11 with Dynamic Gold “Black”, soft stepped and it feels like butter and very forgiving.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:12 PM

To everyone: Thanks for the input. I hadn't really considered the  Clevelands, but I will now. Also, I just saw that Mizuno is coming out  with new JPX wedges, along with the new JPX-800HD line , so I might look at those, too (I love my Mizuno wedges, and would play MP63s if I could afford them).

View Postjokerusn, on 29 August 2011 - 10:18 AM, said:

Yeah, definitely the eye2 xg's.  Also check out the Cleveland CG16.  Another thing to think about is getting the SW to match the iron set.

I thought about urging him to go this route, but I think I'm either going to buy the wedge or the putter for him myself, as my part of the birthday gift. So if I do get him the wedge, I'd like it if it were distinctive in some way.

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I don't think you can go wrong if you get your father Ping gear from top to bottom.  Certainly seems like a good choice to me.  What a cool gift to help with!  Hope he enjoys the game again and you guys get to play often!

This is actually what I'm leaning toward at least recommending to him (which is why the Eye2 XG was on my mind). I figure we can find a pretty good deal on G15s for him, now that the G20s are out. Might also have him try the K15s (at least the driver). And yeah, this is definitely making dad's birthday fun for both of us this year. I'm actually not sure who's more excited about it--him or me!
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:18 PM

I would recommend the cleveland wedges i have had them for so long and they feel great and are rather forgiving.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:43 PM

CG14 & CG16 both have a larger blade size and look similar.  Ping XG is also a good suggestion; hard to go wrong with one of the best wedge designs of all time.  

As far as how many wedges go, the golf world is different now that lofts have gotten so strong.  It's pretty much a given that he will need at least three wedges with any modern set.


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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:55 PM

Demo the Boccieri heavy wedge,its forgiving and its the easiest to hit wedge i have ever hit.




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Posted 29 August 2011 - 04:56 PM

Definitely the Pings or the Clevelands.   I think that both of those are great choices...  Good playability with easy to hit...

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:41 PM

View PostNessism, on 29 August 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

As far as how many wedges go, the golf world is different now that lofts have gotten so strong.  It's pretty much a given that he will need at least three wedges with any modern set.

I definitely hear you on this one (I play 4, and wouldn't play with any fewer). But I do think that, at least to start off, there will probably be a comfort factor for him with not having too many. I may talk him into a GW, though. We'll just see what he feels with comfortable with.
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:52 PM

If you're asking: 40yrs playing, 64 yrs old, 6hdcp, Pings, any of them, Eye2s/Eye2+s especially. Clevelands as well, but there are so many Pings that will work. As someone said, You can't go wrong from GI to Tour with Ping

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:08 PM

I just bought an eye 2 xg lob wedge to try out because the look caught my eye. Played with it yesterday and it was amazingly versatile. Great grind, opens up nice gets through the sand. Way more versatile than than my tour-s 60-10. Felt good on pitches too, like 30-70 yds out. Probably beats my tour-s but i gotta keep testing them. Only thing i might also try is a new 588 or anser wedge, something forged.


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Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:22 PM

May sound funny, but, my dad uses these clubs. They're called (face forward) or F2's. You might have seen them on the golf channel advertisement. They have no hosel and TONS of forgiveness. They make all irons and wedges. If your dad isn't looking to go super scratch and just enjoying playing, I would honestly reccomend these clubs. My dad shot a 33 the other day with these in play. Not to say they are what did it.. but they're super forgiving and not too expensive.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:30 PM

I have CG16 54* and 58*.  They are great for full swing, and pretty good from sand, but sole grinds are not as versatile as other wedges like Pings (I've played Eye2+ and iWedge).
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:15 PM

Wedges glide under the ball and IMO they are all forgiving as heck as long as you're not talking a 50 dg full swing only wedge, the best consistant wedges will be blades imo, no booster sweetspot. You can get good deals on Taylormade Rac wedges, I like them.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 08:20 PM

I'd say the CG14 or CG15 for forgiving wedges, and for versatility I'd say go with the CG15 with the Dynamic Sole Grind.  Once he gets used to hitting the ball again the DSG is great when you need to open the face up.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 11:30 PM

View Postsgniwder99, on 29 August 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostNessism, on 29 August 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

As far as how many wedges go, the golf world is different now that lofts have gotten so strong.  It's pretty much a given that he will need at least three wedges with any modern set.

I definitely hear you on this one (I play 4, and wouldn't play with any fewer). But I do think that, at least to start off, there will probably be a comfort factor for him with not having too many. I may talk him into a GW, though. We'll just see what he feels with comfortable with.



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SW - 54/56 degrees

GW is necessary with todays sets.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 05:32 AM

As previously mentioned; F2's.
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Posted 30 August 2011 - 07:43 AM

View PostNessism, on 29 August 2011 - 11:30 PM, said:

View Postsgniwder99, on 29 August 2011 - 05:41 PM, said:

View PostNessism, on 29 August 2011 - 04:43 PM, said:

As far as how many wedges go, the golf world is different now that lofts have gotten so strong.  It's pretty much a given that he will need at least three wedges with any modern set.

I definitely hear you on this one (I play 4, and wouldn't play with any fewer). But I do think that, at least to start off, there will probably be a comfort factor for him with not having too many. I may talk him into a GW, though. We'll just see what he feels with comfortable with.



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SW - 54/56 degrees

GW is necessary with todays sets.

3 wedges is minimum.Posted Image


Duly noted (and already responded to).

There are several threads about adequate gap coverage on here, by the way.
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 08:54 PM

I had the cg14's and never really cared for them. Just added an Eye 2 xg lob wedge and I LOVE IT!! I highly recommend it
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Posted 07 September 2011 - 10:56 PM

Keep an eye on the lofts of whatever set you buy. My Pitching Wedge is a 51.5* which is just a half degree less than the approach wedge I use with my newer sets. Sometimes your choice is preempted by the set loft configuration.

Have a caution with the Eye 2 SW's. They came in different lofts and bounces and some were not as easy to use as others. Best would be to have a good look/see at the flange, bounce and loft all of which are the true working areas of the SW. Unfortunately, you really need to know how he plays if you're going to have a fair chance at selecting a wedge that works well for him. I'm also interested in the XG's but have not had a chance yet to take a good look/see at them and I do have an original L wedge that I still hardly ever use because my old SW works so well for me.

You have a really tough task confronting you. I've long considered club selection a personal event wherein new is not necessarily better for all. Much of it is what suits his eye but long term is if the clubs have the working characteristics that suit his play. Even when choosing for myself, it's a tough game. Good luck and give it your best.


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Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:59 AM

View PostShambles, on 07 September 2011 - 10:56 PM, said:

Keep an eye on the lofts of whatever set you buy. My Pitching Wedge is a 51.5* which is just a half degree less than the approach wedge I use with my newer sets. Sometimes your choice is preempted by the set loft configuration.

Have a caution with the Eye 2 SW's. They came in different lofts and bounces and some were not as easy to use as others. Best would be to have a good look/see at the flange, bounce and loft all of which are the true working areas of the SW. Unfortunately, you really need to know how he plays if you're going to have a fair chance at selecting a wedge that works well for him. I'm also interested in the XG's but have not had a chance yet to take a good look/see at them and I do have an original L wedge that I still hardly ever use because my old SW works so well for me.

You have a really tough task confronting you. I've long considered club selection a personal event wherein new is not necessarily better for all. Much of it is what suits his eye but long term is if the clubs have the working characteristics that suit his play. Even when choosing for myself, it's a tough game. Good luck and give it your best.


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Just curious which irons have a 51.5* PW?  Seems like 44-45 is the norm so 51.5 sounds wacky.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 07:26 AM

View PostHackerD, on 08 September 2011 - 06:59 AM, said:

Just curious which irons have a 51.5* PW?  Seems like 44-45 is the norm so 51.5 sounds wacky.

Ping eye2

And the wacky thing to me is 44-45 degree PW's.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:09 PM

my dad is a big fan of tom watson, so i got him a tom watson 56* wedge a few months ago.  
he says it's the most forgiving wedge he's ever had, and it's the only wedge in his bag right now.

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 02:57 PM

View PostTimmay_MO, on 29 August 2011 - 11:18 AM, said:

Try and find a Ping iWedge.  Most forgiving wedge made.

+1  They are super from the fairway but also very serviceable for chips and pitches.  Like cheating out of the sand.

Not the most bite, but they'll get the job done.




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