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PING G20 PRODUCT LAUNCH--IRONS


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#1 beruo

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 04:19 PM

IRONS

Given the success of their G15 irons, both with consumers and on the tour, PING had an especially difficult task in creating a worthy follow-up in the G20.  Despite being 2 years old, the G20 irons are the most played SGI on the tour, gamed by staff pros and non-staffers alike.  They are functional from the long irons down to the wedges for players of all levels (only one tour player has had them ground).  Holdouts from the G15 will find even fewer reasons to not get on board with the current iteration.

The G20 irons sport a very similar head profile and same face profile a** the G15s.  PING also made the face of the G20s thinner, relying on the elastomer CTP weight to provide rigidity and reduce unwanted vibration.  They also redesigned the cavity badge with aluminum and elastomer to further help in creating a solid feel while helping with distance control through weight and CG manipulation.  

By taking weight away from the face, and removing the CTP connection to the sole, they increased the MOI by increasing trajectory and keeping spin under control.  Further distance is a plus, but functional distance control was the priority.  The redistribution of the weight increases the inertia on both the horizontal and vertical axises which, as discussed before, lowers significant distance losses on mishits around the face by increasing trajectory and controlling spin.

PING improved the appearance of the G20 irons at address through a subtle change in the hosel transition.  Side-by-side comparisons show that they flattened the surface coming into the hosel to blend the appearance and help “capture” the ball--creating the visual effect of a more compact iron.  The finish utilized is a little shinier and smoother, and darker than previous irons, but will still provide the durability PING is known for.

The net result of all these changes is an iron that is packaged the same, looks smaller, is more forgiving, and feels more solid.  In PingMan and player testing, PING found that despite a slightly lower launch angle, because ball speed is increased, the ball climbs higher with the G20 irons than the G15s over the course of the ball flight.  This results in longer 4 iron distances and same 7 iron distances, creating better distance gapping.  Additionally, player satisfaction was greatly improved--a significant finding given the comparison to an already great iron.

The CFS shaft line is another advance PING has added to the G20 irons.  The CFS shafts are based on the ZZ65, but has been expanded from the original hard stiff flex to a line ranging in flex from a soft regular to X-stiff.  Blind testing showed that players generally liked the feel of the ZZ65 and the benefits of that shaft, so PING wanted to bring this to a larger audience so they modernized and reintroduced this as the CFS (control, feel, stability).

In the Stiff flexed CFS, PING extended the tip by an inch to bring the stiffness to the current industry standard.  One of the characteristics that makes the ZZ65 unique is the thicker tip section, providing a stable experience.  Short irons get slightly less tip reinforcement to help with feel.  Then X-flex CFS shafts have a tip that is 1” shorter and 5 grams heavier.  Regular and Soft Regular shafts, on the other hand, have no tip reinforcement to help activate the tip.  CFS shaft weights on a trimmed 7iron are 94 grams for the SR, 99 grams for the R, 109 grams for the S, and 114 grams for the X.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 04:51 PM

Unfortunately, I didn't take any notes from the wedge release as we were outside.  I do remember Marty J. discussing the reasons for the hourglass geometry (move mass behind the ball for control and feel) and him mentioning the stabilizing bar that comes into play when the face is opened up.  I also remember how the longer hosel helps to expand the CG across the face, offsetting the weight that was added by the tungsten.

Fortunately, PING already published the specs and YouTube link, so here's more details there.  Stock shafts with be the DG Spinner with loft choices in 50°, 52°, 54°, 56°, 58° and 60°.



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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:00 PM

Thanks for the detailed info.  I hope I can get the CFS shaft in the anser irons.  I love Ping shafts.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:05 PM

I just got the g15. They are going head to head w/CB2's. Could these really be better?
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:19 PM

Irons look great. These should sell well.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:46 PM

Finally the time has come for me to upgrade from my i3.  :yahoo:

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 06:52 PM

View Postjdeuce, on 26 July 2011 - 06:46 PM, said:

Finally the time has come for me to upgrade from my i3.  :yahoo:
:busted2: :busted2:  Is there an I-20 ???? :friends: :friends:

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:00 PM

Hate the irons. Love the wedges. The irons look cheap to me, and I don't like the look of all the weight on the perimeter I feel as the edges are too strong, should have smoothed them down IMO. The wedges on the other hand are beautiful, I wonder if they can knock the scratch 1018s out of my bag
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:12 PM

+1 were are the I-20??
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:18 PM

Still a little uneasy about the offset but aside from that, the irons looks great. And I know they'll perform.


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:27 PM

Wasn't sure they could improve on the G15.........but sounds like they pulled it off!

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:37 PM

Do you know if Ping will offer a combo set- choice of irons/hybrids and when will they begin to take orders?

Edited by john75, 26 July 2011 - 07:50 PM.


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:40 PM

View Postgolf419, on 26 July 2011 - 07:12 PM, said:

+1 were are the I-20??

The only mention of the i-series was the fact that the i15 are the current model in that line.  Having said that....

I like the g20s.  Some gold paintfill and they are right up my alley. I'm not turned off in the least by the new badge detail
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:47 PM

Crazy question, but are they going to make a 2 iron in the G20. I game Anser irons, but I have an old G2 2 iron that has always worked well for me, but could use an upgrade. I hate hitting fairway woods, and I haven't found a hybrid that works for me.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:53 PM

I NEED the anser wedges in my bag. Those look SWEEEEEEET..

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 07:58 PM

Something about them looks slightly sleeker than the G15. That the Z-Z65 shafts will now be available in something other than hard stiff makes puts them over the top. These will be mine!!

I just wish they would have left the red behind!
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 08:47 PM

Oh my!  Now I know where all my money will be spent next year.



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Posted 26 July 2011 - 09:50 PM

Now the debate begins. Which set to buy for next year, G20 or i20?Posted Image
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 10:38 PM

I like the look of the G20's.  But please tell me they will come out with an I20!  For the love of God, let it happen!

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 03:57 AM

Man, I would have nightmares about hitting a shank with those G20's!!:black eye:
Beautiful Anser wedges though!


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Posted 27 July 2011 - 07:26 AM

"PING improved the appearance of the G20 irons at address through a  subtle change in the hosel transition.  Side-by-side comparisons show  that they flattened the surface coming into the hosel to blend the  appearance and help “capture” the ball--creating the visual effect of a  more compact iron."

I'm loving this whole launch, but this particular issue above is the only thing I'm not crazy about.

IMHO, If you want a more compact iron visually, get the I Series. One of the things that makes the G Series so forgiving is the visual confidence factor that they give. The fact that the 4 iron face is longer heel to toe than more traditional clubs makes it LOOK like you can't miss it. Why would they mess with that?

Again, seeing these clubs has me all pumped as a true PING Fan, and I already have G20 Driver, 3 Wood, Hybrid and Irons on order through my local Watts store. I think if the distance gapping is what they say it is, these will be HUGE sellers as the G15 was already opening alot of eyes.

Thank you so much for the sneak peak! :smilie_ping:
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 08:11 AM

I can't wait to see and try these. thanks for the great write up.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 09:49 AM

OMG! looks sweeeet :coolpics:  I will definetly game this I am going to get an all PING G20 bag for next season, I will order it right away now with my current G15 specs even without hititng them.  They look lovely!!:smilie_ping: :smilie_ping: :smilie_ping: :smilie_ping:
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 09:57 AM

Do we have any info on the bounce options on the wedges?
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 09:58 AM

I just bought a used set of g15 and had then reshafted. First set in 5 years, how do I explain to the wife that I need these!!!!


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Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:23 AM

i'm really wanting to see the i20.  i'm very close to pulling the trigger on S56, but curious what direction the entire lineup is going with the i, anser, and S series.
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 01:03 PM

any idea when they will be available for purchase/how much they will cost?

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:38 PM

MSRP will be the same as the G15  ~ 99 /iron
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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:44 PM

Damn....$170 for the Anser wedges and those have the DG Spinners...yikes.

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 02:55 PM

Wonder what real difference is between the G15 irons and the g20.





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