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[Chilidog]

The Under Armour comment is regarding their entire line. They built their line on their double knit Cold Gear outerwear. Now, most tech companies have copied that, but UA still insists on using the least amount of yarn technology possible claiming that the "UA logo sells their clothes"...who can argue with them on their sales, but the quality of their stuff is awful.

[iBanesto]

Ralph Lauren and Lacoste.

[808Grinder]

Where's Sansabelt and Pringle? hehe. The Hugo Boss and Bobby Jones stuff is nice.

[sgniwder99]

Chilidog, on 20 July 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

The Under Armour comment is regarding their entire line. They built their line on their double knit Cold Gear outerwear. Now, most tech companies have copied that, but UA still insists on using the least amount of yarn technology possible claiming that the "UA logo sells their clothes"...who can argue with them on their sales, but the quality of their stuff is awful.

Meh. I'd have to disagree with you there. My UA heat gear stuff performs better than any other similar product I've tried, and I've tried several. And I've had UA shirts and underwear last several years, so I'm not seeing any lack of quality in the construction, either. But to each his own, I guess...

[Chilidog]

I work with their designers and merchandisers on yarn design in, so I pretty much know who is cheapening up a product to save a penny and who is not. UA is notorious for this. Their heat gear performs due to yarn size and construction. You'll notice that after you wash it several times, it doesn't wick like it once did and you'll notice your getting a little more wet in your shirt than you used to. That's because the wicking agent has been washed out. Nike and Adidas make VERY comparable products to UA. Your smaller end companies like Saucony, Brooks, etc. make much better products.

sgniwder99, on 21 July 2011 - 05:57 AM, said:

Chilidog, on 20 July 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

The Under Armour comment is regarding their entire line. They built their line on their double knit Cold Gear outerwear. Now, most tech companies have copied that, but UA still insists on using the least amount of yarn technology possible claiming that the "UA logo sells their clothes"...who can argue with them on their sales, but the quality of their stuff is awful.

Meh. I'd have to disagree with you there. My UA heat gear stuff performs better than any other similar product I've tried, and I've tried several. And I've had UA shirts and underwear last several years, so I'm not seeing any lack of quality in the construction, either. But to each his own, I guess...

[eagles1]

I think Antigua "Desert Dry" line is very good stuff (and highly underrated).

Chillidog - I value your opinion.  For winter time I have Coldgear stuff by UA and think it is very good.  Do you agree or have they cheapened that line as well?  If so, who in your opinion makes the best product for cold weather gear that is similar to to UA in that it is not bulky?

Thanks in adance.

Chilidog, on 21 July 2011 - 08:11 AM, said:

I work with their designers and merchandisers on yarn design in, so I pretty much know who is cheapening up a product to save a penny and who is not. UA is notorious for this. Their heat gear performs due to yarn size and construction. You'll notice that after you wash it several times, it doesn't wick like it once did and you'll notice your getting a little more wet in your shirt than you used to. That's because the wicking agent has been washed out. Nike and Adidas make VERY comparable products to UA. Your smaller end companies like Saucony, Brooks, etc. make much better products.

sgniwder99, on 21 July 2011 - 05:57 AM, said:

Chilidog, on 20 July 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

The Under Armour comment is regarding their entire line. They built their line on their double knit Cold Gear outerwear. Now, most tech companies have copied that, but UA still insists on using the least amount of yarn technology possible claiming that the "UA logo sells their clothes"...who can argue with them on their sales, but the quality of their stuff is awful.

Meh. I'd have to disagree with you there. My UA heat gear stuff performs better than any other similar product I've tried, and I've tried several. And I've had UA shirts and underwear last several years, so I'm not seeing any lack of quality in the construction, either. But to each his own, I guess...

[Openwater22]

Just got a couple pair of Stromberg slacks that are awesome. Also wear tropical weight wool slacks from Jos A Bank, Zanella, Canali.

Addidas shorts fit the best. Any shirt brand in a fabric, pattern, color that catches my eye. Really like the new FJ base layer  for cold weather.

[Chilidog]

eagles,

I actually wear their cold gear as well....along with Nike, Mizuno, Patagonia, Polartec, etc. They are one of my customers and I have to try everything out. They kind of reinvented cold gear when they first came to market, but the only thing that makes it special is the fabric construction, which is a hefty double knit with spandex. Since then, everyone in the industry has copied it, so their are a ton of brands that now have the same construction. A double knit construction is simply two fabrics that are knitted together so that it leaves a space between each fabric (which you would recognize as hefty or a little cooshier than other fabrics). Honestly, I haven't found anything better than what Polartec is doing. They specialize in cold gear and live and die by it's performance as a company. That's why they are the sole outfitters of our military when it comes to cold gear.

eagles1, on 21 July 2011 - 08:32 AM, said:

I think Antigua "Desert Dry" line is very good stuff (and highly underrated).

Chillidog - I value your opinion.  For winter time I have Coldgear stuff by UA and think it is very good.  Do you agree or have they cheapened that line as well?  If so, who in your opinion makes the best product for cold weather gear that is similar to to UA in that it is not bulky?

Thanks in adance.

Chilidog, on 21 July 2011 - 08:11 AM, said:

I work with their designers and merchandisers on yarn design in, so I pretty much know who is cheapening up a product to save a penny and who is not. UA is notorious for this. Their heat gear performs due to yarn size and construction. You'll notice that after you wash it several times, it doesn't wick like it once did and you'll notice your getting a little more wet in your shirt than you used to. That's because the wicking agent has been washed out. Nike and Adidas make VERY comparable products to UA. Your smaller end companies like Saucony, Brooks, etc. make much better products.

sgniwder99, on 21 July 2011 - 05:57 AM, said:

Chilidog, on 20 July 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

The Under Armour comment is regarding their entire line. They built their line on their double knit Cold Gear outerwear. Now, most tech companies have copied that, but UA still insists on using the least amount of yarn technology possible claiming that the "UA logo sells their clothes"...who can argue with them on their sales, but the quality of their stuff is awful.

Meh. I'd have to disagree with you there. My UA heat gear stuff performs better than any other similar product I've tried, and I've tried several. And I've had UA shirts and underwear last several years, so I'm not seeing any lack of quality in the construction, either. But to each his own, I guess...

[phi435]

almost exclusively adidas but mainly because i spend many weekends near an adidas outlet store. picked up some adipure salesman sample polos a few weeks back for $20. really like those.

[sgniwder99]

Chilidog, on 21 July 2011 - 08:11 AM, said:

I work with their designers and merchandisers on yarn design in, so I pretty much know who is cheapening up a product to save a penny and who is not. UA is notorious for this. Their heat gear performs due to yarn size and construction. You'll notice that after you wash it several times, it doesn't wick like it once did and you'll notice your getting a little more wet in your shirt than you used to. That's because the wicking agent has been washed out. Nike and Adidas make VERY comparable products to UA. Your smaller end companies like Saucony, Brooks, etc. make much better products.

sgniwder99, on 21 July 2011 - 05:57 AM, said:

Chilidog, on 20 July 2011 - 03:40 PM, said:

The Under Armour comment is regarding their entire line. They built their line on their double knit Cold Gear outerwear. Now, most tech companies have copied that, but UA still insists on using the least amount of yarn technology possible claiming that the "UA logo sells their clothes"...who can argue with them on their sales, but the quality of their stuff is awful.

Meh. I'd have to disagree with you there. My UA heat gear stuff performs better than any other similar product I've tried, and I've tried several. And I've had UA shirts and underwear last several years, so I'm not seeing any lack of quality in the construction, either. But to each his own, I guess...

I haven't noticed what you're talking about with the increased wetness, but in fairness I sweat to beat the band--to the point that it's something of a running joke among my friends, and source of horror to my girlfriend when I come home from the course or a joke and try to hug her--so I doubt any product would keep me anything like dry. If it just wicks the sweat to my outer layer where it can evaporate I'm pretty happy with that. And, like I said, UA does that better than anything else I've worn. But--again in the interest of fairness--I haven't worn things by Saucony or Brooks, and don't have the insider information that you do. So I'm sure you'd know more about that than me.

But when it comes to things like quality of construction, I'd still disagree with you on UA's quality. Little things like seam strength and durability of elastic waistbands are MUCH better in UA stuff than in other brands I've tried, and it's actually difficult to imagine anything being any better, since I've got several UA pieces that I've had for years and washed hundreds of times, and they still hold their shape and stretch perfectly. At any rate, if there is something out there that's better it really wouldn't be a difference that made a difference in that respect.

[Chilidog]

When I talk about quality, it's more to color than anything when it comes to construction. Most of these guys are using the same mills to run Nike, UA, Adidas, etc. If you want proof, just go to your local Dick's to the t-shirt table for the UA Tech tee. They'll be folded and stacked on each other. Look at the color of the rainbow you'll see in color shades. It's an inside joke in the industry that people actually will buy that when seeing the drastic color differences.

[sgniwder99]

Chilidog, on 21 July 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

When I talk about quality, it's more to color than anything when it comes to construction. Most of these guys are using the same mills to run Nike, UA, Adidas, etc. If you want proof, just go to your local Dick's to the t-shirt table for the UA Tech tee. They'll be folded and stacked on each other. Look at the color of the rainbow you'll see in color shades. It's an inside joke in the industry that people actually will buy that when seeing the drastic color differences.

That makes sense I suppose, since they all cost basically the same from what I've seen. And like I said, I'm sure that you know more about the yarn quality and such than I do. So I believe you ().

But, then, if they do all cost the same and have the same kind of fabric, then stuff like seam and elastic quality does start to matter, because the UA stuff is definitely better than those other brands in that sense. I've also found--for what it's worth--that UA's line is more varied in terms of fit, cut, and color (which does matter to me when it comes to a base layer).

So I guess all I'm saying is that I believe you that little companies like Brooks and Saucony are probably making better stuff (that is how little companies tend to survive, after all), but of the big brands that you are likely to find easily at the local big-box, I think UA is still putting out the best product. That may be faint praise after all, but it ain't nothing.



/threadjack

[richster66]

There are way too many companies. For style there is peter millar and polo etc but those are pretty expensive. But also companies like dunning, puma etc make nice clothing for a decent price...and then theres loudmouth lol.

[robbo32]

I love to look good when I go out on the course and I seem to always love what Adidas, Nike and Under Armour have to offer but my bank account doesn't always allow me to buy their products. I usually end up a Kohls getting a few of the polos or shorts made by Grand Slam Brand. It's still comfortable and looks good to me and for the price it suits me just fine.

[GolfBrotha#1]

Nike for me hands down. I live near a Nike outlet and get previous years merchandise for a crazy discount. Easily 50% off or more.

Edited by GolfBrotha#1, 22 July 2011 - 03:35 PM.

[MileHighClub]

I buy Zero Restriction whenever possible.  Their stuff is so functional and well made.

[typhoonoid]

ricky fowler made me love puma lol

[chicagoben]

I'm a big fan of the Ralph Lauren and RLX brands, because they're a nice balance.  They're a stylish twist on a very classic look.  Also, for me personally, they fit well.  I'm short (5'6") and most golf shirts have too much material.  These don't look good on someone of my (lack of) height - they look very baggy and shapeless.   The Polo and RLX shirts are cut a little trimmer and are much more flattering.  A good choice for shorter and/or thinner players.

[golferoz]

Gotta love the SWOOSH!!!!

[danpass]

just ordered another UA boxer short (9in) and two of their HeatGear caps.  How are the regular khaki shorts?

Edited by danpass, 26 July 2011 - 03:42 PM.

[Biskit72]

What about SubSeventy that have great clothes

[Phelpz]

Cross sportwear australia for me

[jaygalindo]

From head to toe Nike is most complete brand of golf clothing with Adidas a very close second.

[alexthegrrr8]

Out of the list it would be Puma for me as I love their shoes and the hats aren't too shabby either although I do not wear the Monoline.

Sligo for me is the brand as they perform and fit well. Although I am wanting to give site sponsor Sub 70 a shot as well now that they are over here on this side of the pond... see Atlantic.

Alex

[greatish.ten]

I don't really have a favorite brand... the only thing made for golf that I wear on the course are my hat (never wear baseball caps otherwise) and my shoes (Adipures).

And I still end up looking like a golfer. I already wear fitted dark plaid pants/khakis, even an off white pair. Just a fitted plain logoless t-shirt or bright Lacoste polo like I did before I ever even swung a golf club.

Even got the G-mac cardigans. Like I said, even before I ever considered golfing cool.

[LUMA]

Gotta say Puma and Sligo.

[Golfjunki71]

Nike and Travis Matthew

[shuddleston]

Adidas for me

[Uberish]

I just started going out on the course but being a bit of clothes whore I've amassed enough to wear something new for at least a few outings.

Shirts - overall I like Puma, just wish they had a bigger selection that wasn't so Fruit Stripe gum looking. Also wish they'd offer more tech fabric selections as the ones I like tend to be cotton blends (I'll never wear cotton again since leaving the range looking like I took a bath). Nike shirts are a good middle of the road, albeit a bit boring. Under Armour is hit or miss for me, both in terms of style and fit. I like a lot of the Hugo Boss shirts design wise except for the giant Boss logo, totally ruins it for me. Once I get better I'll allow myself to look at the pricier options like JL, Sligo etc.

Pants - Hands down, Dunning. Every other brand I've tried on felt like I was in parachute pants. So bummed that they're in the process of selling the company and in limbo. Really hope whoever picks them up doesn't ruin it.

Shorts - Anything where the inseam isn't ridiculously long. I have shorter legs and really don't want to have to pay to get shorts hemmed. Kills my wallet and my self esteem. Tried on some JL's that were super nice but not willing to pay $60(sale price) for shorts...

[Stanley Mayhem]

I look for comfort and color.