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#211 tiger1873

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 04:16 PM

I am looking at different clubs it really hard to compare based on just dues alone. For instance nearby there is a club that is $125k to join and I believe 4K a month but you get free lessons and all the food your want. There is a waiting list to join too.

Some clubs are just bad and not worth paying for. Generally speaking equity clubs are the deal lots of them include free sodas and snacks as well as events for the kids and wife. So the bigger the family the better deal. If you have 6 kids and make a moderate income joining a county club may actually save a lot money at some clubs.  

If your talking about a single person using it the math will never work out.


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#212 Cool Hand Luke

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 02:27 PM

regarding initiation fees...

if there are tiered categories, say 5k for junior, 10k for intermediate, 20k for full (just an example). The junior that joins for 5k will still have to pay the remaining of the 20k as they age thru the categories correct?

my understanding is this is the usual way it works..... or do most clubs not require you pay the full initiation if you get in younger?
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Posted 22 August 2017 - 02:38 PM

 Cool Hand Luke, on 22 August 2017 - 02:27 PM, said:

regarding initiation fees...

if there are tiered categories, say 5k for junior, 10k for intermediate, 20k for full (just an example). The junior that joins for 5k will still have to pay the remaining of the 20k as they age thru the categories correct?

my understanding is this is the usual way it works..... or do most clubs not require you pay the full initiation if you get in younger?

Depends.

Those that are refundable "bonds" you usually have to pony up the full amount to become a "full" or "equity" member.

But a lot of non refundable fees are scaled by age, and you only pay what was correct for your age at the time you enter.

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM

450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie 😀

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 08:47 AM

 SPY ZINGER, on 05 June 2011 - 08:36 AM, said:

1900 cart included.  No other fees, semi private.  Minneapolis. Old parkland course w elevation and trees.

Which course is this?


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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:03 PM

anyone a member at belle haven or laurel hill in N VA? How is it? Im thinking about joining one.

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Posted 25 August 2017 - 12:17 PM

12k plus 1.5k in food minimum before one transfusion or cart fee.
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Posted 30 August 2017 - 09:37 AM

2300 which includes range, cart, pool, locker, club storage and access to  about a dozen other courses at no cost.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

 North Butte, on 14 August 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

 OffTheDole, on 14 August 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

 MSchad, on 14 August 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

That is funny!!

I bought a hat after the round.

Not to derail the thread, but I always hate playing private courses that won't accept cash for food and beverages out on the course. I want to be able to buy a round of drinks for the person who was kind enough to invite me out and not feel bad about charging $5 Gatorades on top of the guest fee.

Just remember, your host chose to be a member of that club. So it may not feel quite right to you but he must like it that way.

I would not really care to be a member of one of those no-cash, everything billed to the account, host has to pay type places but I guess they're typically nicer clubs than mine anyway ;-)

LOL nooo. not nicer - "rich" in tradition. The memebr-charge back is a thing of the past. IMO clubs try to hold on this too much, often times to their detriment. They're supposed to revolved around your lifestyle, not put you in a box.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:00 PM

180k initiation 18k per year


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Posted 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.
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Posted 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.

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Posted 26 September 2017 - 11:07 PM

View Postbubbaleon, on 26 September 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

View PostNorth Butte, on 14 August 2017 - 02:45 PM, said:

View PostOffTheDole, on 14 August 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

View PostMSchad, on 14 August 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

That is funny!!

I bought a hat after the round.

Not to derail the thread, but I always hate playing private courses that won't accept cash for food and beverages out on the course. I want to be able to buy a round of drinks for the person who was kind enough to invite me out and not feel bad about charging $5 Gatorades on top of the guest fee.

Just remember, your host chose to be a member of that club. So it may not feel quite right to you but he must like it that way.

I would not really care to be a member of one of those no-cash, everything billed to the account, host has to pay type places but I guess they're typically nicer clubs than mine anyway ;-)

LOL nooo. not nicer - "rich" in tradition. The memebr-charge back is a thing of the past. IMO clubs try to hold on this too much, often times to their detriment. They're supposed to revolved around your lifestyle, not put you in a box.

It's also a way to make sure cash isn't being exchanged so everyone is paying their share.

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:15 AM

View Postdhk8880, on 25 August 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

anyone a member at belle haven or laurel hill in N VA? How is it? Im thinking about joining one.
Laurel Hill is a muni. Anyone can play at any time for published rates.  It's a really nice course, but a membership there is just pre-paying for unlimited golf.  You can figure out if it's "worth it" if you know when and how often you would play.
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:21 PM

View PostTW33, on 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.

Liberty National cost $250m to build :/  

I would like to join a club, but I have no idea what the prices are even around here (would be Long Island).  There's a semi-private that's 20 min away that is 2-3k/yr for under 40s.  I assume the real private clubs want a lot

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Posted 27 September 2017 - 04:35 PM

View PostTW33, on 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.
Hence the statement  I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general
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Posted 27 September 2017 - 10:03 PM

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 27 September 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

View PostTW33, on 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.
Hence the statement  I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general
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Posted 28 September 2017 - 06:29 AM

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 27 September 2017 - 04:35 PM, said:

View PostTW33, on 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.
Hence the statement  I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general

I'm not sure what the "Scottish model" is exactly but my home club membership dues are $650 per year after a $5,000 stock purchase located in Southwest Virginia.  So, I'm not certain this "model" wouldn't or couldn't work in the US.  My club offers nothing but golf and makes every effort to do that to the best of it's ability.  It takes a concerted effort from the membership base to ensure our "model" remains self-sufficient but we all gladly do our part.

We are located 20 minutes from Olde Mill and Primland and I guarantee you we have the best conditioned greens in this region.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 06:50 PM

50k to join, 1100 a month.

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Posted 29 September 2017 - 07:32 PM

View Postdhk8880, on 25 August 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:

anyone a member at belle haven or laurel hill in N VA? How is it? Im thinking about joining one.

I've played Belle Haven. Really nice. Great clubhouse. Great country club.  It's outta my league right now. By A Lot.


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Posted 01 October 2017 - 05:45 AM

Club 1 - $1482 (intermediate price) club dues, $1700 unlimited cart, $300 range plan.  This one is more of a Country Club.

Club 2 - $2340 (unlimited golf, cart, range) for 2 courses and access to a 3rd course for $50/rd. This is more of a golf club.

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 09:38 AM

under $2K for the year with carts

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Posted 09 October 2017 - 11:57 AM

LA area where nothing is cheap...Nice course, Junior exec membership. $6k initiation, $310 monthly for the first year raising $50 monthly each year until it settles at $510.  Carts not included but I walk 95% of my rounds as it is an easy walk. No F&B minimum.  Once I age out I do not have to pay the increased initiation of a full membership which is HUGE.

The course used to have a Senior tour event until 2009.  They are trying to get another senior event back.

I couldn't be happier.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:03 PM

Some of these prices are killing me.  I recently had some people suggesting that a friend of mine and I both join a local club on Long Island that touts itself as being "truly affordable".  When I inquired, I was quoted $9K (+ $1K for spouse) for a weekday membership and $14.5K (+ $1,250 for spouse) for a full membership.  The only way that could be an option would be if my friend and I married one another and one of us became "the spouse".

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:33 PM

We have a beautiful driving range, 4

practice greens, and 36 holes that are very well maintained. Unlimited golf is $625. A cart is a extra $545.

I have a excellent short game. It's unfortunate that it starts on the Tee.

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 03:36 PM

I'm pretty sure I'd have never taken up golf in my 30's if I lived in NY, Philly, Chicago, Southern California or any of these other places where your only choice is between private clubs I couldn't afford even if I sold my house and lived in a cardboard box vs. public courses where getting a Saturday morning tee time in June at a decent track is akin to winning the lottery. I'd have probably tried it for a few rounds, thought it was great but totally impractical.
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Posted Today, 07:35 AM

View PostTW33, on 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.

$2 million?   Very few cost that today.  The average is around $7 million and many run 12 - 25 million.  For example, Chambers Bay was over 20 million without a clubhouse.

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Posted Today, 07:42 AM

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

You are quite fortunate.   That financial model only works when their is no current or recent costs to acquire and build the golf course, and maintenance costs are minimal.  So you are basically just paying to have somebody mow the grass.  

Enjoy!

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Posted Today, 07:47 AM

View PostRoadking2003, on 16 October 2017 - 07:35 AM, said:

View PostTW33, on 26 September 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

View PostOne_Putt_Blunder, on 26 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��

I absolutely love the Scottish model for "membership" sadly I also fully understand why it would never work here in AZ or the US in general.

Most Scottish courses were built a long time ago, and cost relatively little to construct.  It's not financially possible to charge US members $500/year for a course that cost $2M+ to build.  It just doesn't work.

$2 million?   Very few cost that today.  The average is around $7 million and many run 12 - 25 million.  For example, Chambers Bay was over 20 million without a clubhouse.

The reason the current average is out-of-this-world high is that there are in effect NO golf courses being built other than high-$$$ resorts and rich-guy retreat destinations. When the real estate bubble burst 10 years ago all the $1.5 million to $4 million housing-development courses, subsidized as an "amenity" for otherwise cookie-cutter subdivisions, quit being built overnight.

In the current USA golf economy, outside of the 1%-ers nobody is willing to pay dues or green fees sufficient to justify building a new golf course for local everyday play. In fact, about 2/3 of such courses in operation today will probably be NLE a couple decades hence.
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Posted Today, 08:49 AM

View PostRalphyboy84, on 22 August 2017 - 05:37 PM, said:

£450 a year for all 3 courses at Carnoustie ��
Tough to get any better deal !!!

$7k to join (share purchase) + $2.8k a year (golf, tennis, squash, pool) + $700 food minimum.
Pretty expensive related to France standard, but since the club is located next to border with Geneva/Switzerland, it's fairly in line with other clubs in the area.

Edited by AuldPLO Swiss Golftrotter, Today, 08:50 AM.

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