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50 and 58* wedge setup anyone?


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 06:30 AM

Hey guys,

I am thinking about upgrading my wedge setup from the standard wedges in my iron set. The irons are stronger loft so my PW is 45* and SW is 52* and i am a failrly good short game player however deeper bunkers or short bunker shots are difficult.

I am fairly positive I am going with the 50* but am unsure if the gap to 58* is too big and maybe should just stick with 56*. I am thinking that the higher lofted club will only be used around the green and not full approach shots.

So does anyone think this sounds ok or do you have a better idea?

Oh i am thinking of either MP-T10s or Vokeys

Thanks


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:08 AM

I have a 45* pw, then I go 50*, 54*, 60*.  I went with 60* instead of 58* because I only use it for short shots around the green.  Just my 2 cents.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:22 AM

I carry 5.  

46* that came with my set of Hogan FTX

plue 4 Cally X-Forged:

50* for shots up to 125
54* for 110 to 95
58* for 95 to 50 (and greenside bunkers, since it has 13* bounce)
62* for anything inside 50

It sounds like overkill, but most of the scoring comes from inside 150.  

I also deloft my clubs quite a bit, it's not that I'm any kind of pure ballstriker.  If I need to add a longer club, I have lots of options:  

Replace 54* and 58* with a 56* OR replace 58* and 62* with a 60*

All this precision still has me playing around a 16, so it really is less about the tools and more about the carpenter.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:23 AM

with your gap at 50, I'd go 56. I'd make sure the 56 has a grind that let's use open it up to play a variety of shots. I'm not a fan of huge gaps in lofts and if you're good with the short game then a 56 for sand and chips around the green should work

I have both wedges and I really wanted to love the MP t10 (selling a brand new 60 right now) but the vokeys are staying as they get the job done despite the harder clicky feeling that i get from them - but my wedge perfection search will continue


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:24 AM

I have a 46* PW and added a 52 and 58.  That's it.


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:26 AM

The important thing is the distance gaps.  I play a 46, 52, 58.  I have around 20 yards between each wedge and my 58 allows me to hit it as high as I want and land it as soft as I need.  I would go with a 52 58 setup or if you decide on an extra wedge go 50, 54, 58.  I play the t-10 wedges.  They do not spin as much as a vokey but I find them the most playable wedge I have ever had.  Great out of bunkers, rough, tight lies and every other lie.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:27 AM

 mods, on 17 May 2011 - 06:30 AM, said:

Hey guys,

I am thinking about upgrading my wedge setup from the standard wedges in my iron set. The irons are stronger loft so my PW is 45* and SW is 52* and i am a failrly good short game player however deeper bunkers or short bunker shots are difficult.

I am fairly positive I am going with the 50* but am unsure if the gap to 58* is too big and maybe should just stick with 56*. I am thinking that the higher lofted club will only be used around the green and not full approach shots.

So does anyone think this sounds ok or do you have a better idea?

Oh i am thinking of either MP-T10s or Vokeys

Thanks


I've been playing 52* and 58* for about a year.  I am moving to 52*, 56*, and 60*.

The 58* was working just fine for me when the courses I was playing had medium to hard sand, but my current home course has soft sand.  I am playing a 58-12 vokey and with the soft sand I have to open the face to get the bounce to work well - the problem is opening the 58 makes my preferred feel for swing out of the sand too slow and the ball isn't advancing forward enough.  So the 58 isn't working for me due to course conditions (soft sand) and a grind that makes me need to open it up (really, 12* bounce and it digs when square?).

The 60* is for the deep bluegrass rough around the greens - a 56* will come out to hot if the ball is down and I need to be aggressive.


The question becomes - what type of shots do you need around the green, and what clubs do you need to make those shots.

Edited by northgolf, 17 May 2011 - 08:29 AM.


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:31 AM

Gaming a 50 and 58, but I also have a 54 in the bag.  The 58 is great for shots around the green and full shots around 90-95 yds.    All three are MP-T11 White Satins with Dynamic Golds.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:55 AM

I go PW, 53, 58.  My next wedge will be a 50-52 replacing the 53.  For me switching down to 3 total wedges has been great.  I use the 58 with a SFU Scratch grind that lets me open the blade up nicely for bunker shots and lobs.  I use the 53 for eveyrthing else from 100 yard full shots to 60 yard pitches and even to chip around the green.  I bought into the idea of using PW, 52, 56, 60 but I would be indecisive on my club selection with too many options.  Now I know exactly what club to hit.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 08:58 AM

i am doing 588's at 51 and 58 with a 46* PW.  work fine..


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:03 AM

I have a 45 degree PW and go with 50, 54 and 58.  Use the 50 and 54 a ton and 58 just a round the green. Also have a matching 60 to replace the 58 if things in my area get real fast or dry in the late Summer and Fall.  Choosing between the 58 or 60 depends on the ball I'm playing too.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:29 AM

I have just changed my set up, gone from Volks, 50, 56, and 60, I used to use the 50 for most of my chipping, now have a PW, Mizuno JPX800 pro, and have just gone to Mizuno MP 11 in 50, 54 and 58, all with spinner shaft, have to say they work great, and still doing chipping with the 50, but with the forged PW and 9 they have also become a go to for longer chips



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Posted 17 May 2011 - 09:34 AM

I also wouldn't go more than 6* apart.

I gamed the 50, 54, 58 set up last year but found that my half shots on one club were nearly equivalent to the full shot on the next one. So this year, I'm going 52* and bending a 58* down to 57*.

I have 2 sets of irons. The ones in my sig have a 45* PW. But my other set are 46* so I'll keep my GW at 52*.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:43 PM

like some others have said, you should probably do 50/56. I would go a step further and get a 60 that can be exchanged with a long club (3i,5w,3w) so you have flexibility depending on the course your playing. Also the 50/56 combo should 100% work because that's what old pw/sw setups used to be, it may be called aw/sw setup, but same difference really.



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Posted 17 May 2011 - 02:55 PM

AP2 Gap wedge 51, Cleveland CG15 DSG 58.


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 03:16 PM

My pitching wedge is 45 and I play a 53/60 combo so I don't see a problem with someone playing 50/58.  All I care about is having wedges that work for the types of shots I like to hit.  I'm not concerned about having 4 degree gaps or a specific wedge for a specific yardage.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:28 PM

I recently went from 51,56,61 to 51,58,64. Best move ever regarding my wedge setup.

Bottom lines is I can do anything with the 58 that I could do with my 56 and 60. Pick a medium-high bounce with one of the more aggressive C grinds and it will be very versatile. It has taken the "which wedge" thought out of the equation and I am much more confident with each of them now and am getting up and down a lot more often because of it.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:36 PM

I went 50/58 last year (well, bent the 50 to 52).

I now go 48-54-60

I don't like carrying more than 2 "accessory" wedges...if I do carry more, I find myself trying to find ways to use them.  I use my 54 for anything that I can release the ball to...and pretty much everything from the fairway unless I absolutely have zero green to work with.

I pretty much use the 60 exclusively inside 30 yards or so unless there is room to let the ball release.

The two wedge system just flat out keeps things simple for me...GO FOR IT!!!

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 07:30 PM

I go 48* PW, 53* GW, 58* sand wedge, and a 64* super lob.

As some have said above, this leads to a fair amount of indecision around the greens - coupled with the fact that I'm playing a local public course more than my private course with LIGHTNING fast greens (too far of a drive these days) and I think I'm gonna drop the 64*.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:35 PM

Had the same question last year with MX 300 PW.  Went with 52 and 58 and bent the PW loft.    Seems to help my game and eliminate the decision of 56 or 60.  Good luck

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 10:42 PM

You can always bend wedges to fit yardages. I am going 47*, 53*, 58* this year. I like the distance and short game versitility of the 58 over the 60. The 53 gives me a reliable 105ish club with enough bounce to get out of almost all bunkers (58* works great for this as well) If I were you I would go 45*, 50*, 54*, 58* or somewhere along those lines.

Muxi87 - I am the exact same way. Last year I went with PW, 52, 56, 60 and I just had too many options around the green and on approaches. I know the game is all about the 100 yards and in but I feel much more confident gripping down on a 53* than hitting a full 56* or something. I am a feel guy so I can just sort of see the flag and see a shot that I want to play.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 04:38 AM

thanks for all the replies guys, gives me some food for thought!

may choose the 50* with the 56* instead of the 58* as i am confident opening the blade and my current SW is only 52* and i have made do so far!




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