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#1 golferag

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 12:55 PM

Anybody have any experience using a driver shaft less than 45".  I am 6'2" with long arms.  I think a shorter driver shaft around 43" might help my accuracy.  

Does naybody know how to determine what your driver shaft length should be?  

Interested in hearing any pro's and con's on this.


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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:35 PM

View Postgolferag, on 09 May 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

Anybody have any experience using a driver shaft less than 45".  I am 6'2" with long arms.  I think a shorter driver shaft around 43" might help my accuracy.  

Does naybody know how to determine what your driver shaft length should be?  

Interested in hearing any pro's and con's on this.

A general rule is, you should be hitting as long a shaft as you can control. I'm about 5'10" and I go 44.5", but honestly if I could hit a 45" more consistently I would be playing it that long. The stuff about wrist to floor measurements and the like is really not reliable after you have developed your own golf swing.
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Posted 09 May 2011 - 01:46 PM

Tiger was using a 43 1/2 inch shaft for a long time.  I'm not sure if he still us. I'm fairly confident that the average on tour is around 44 1/2.  

Nowadays everyone wants to max their carry and lower their spin rate etc.  I'll sacrifice some distance for more accuracy any day of the week.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 02:44 PM

Absolutely I think you should. I'm 5'11 with longish arms and I'm playing 43.75 in my R9 Superdeep and will hit it past 95+ % of anybody reading this.

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Posted 09 May 2011 - 03:02 PM

View Post8orBetter, on 09 May 2011 - 02:44 PM, said:

Absolutely I think you should. I'm 5'11 with longish arms and I'm playing 43.75 in my R9 Superdeep and will hit it past 95+ % of anybody reading this.

Do you play a shorter shaft in your 3 wood also?  If so, what length?


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Posted 09 May 2011 - 10:19 PM

I game a 44" R7 driver and last season had my 3 wood trimmed 3/4" to play 42.5"    It has helped me hit the center of the face on both clubs more consistently.  Haven't looked back

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:45 AM

I think it depends on the head and how forgiving it is. I played an original R9 for a while and liked playing it at 44.5". Now with my SF long hosel I'm back to playing it at 45" (I was going to shorten it after the initial try). I'm hitting it as well or better than the shorter combo because of the forgiveness of the SF.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 02:14 AM

View Postgolferag, on 09 May 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

Anybody have any experience using a driver shaft less than 45".  I am 6'2" with long arms.  I think a shorter driver shaft around 43" might help my accuracy.  

Does naybody know how to determine what your driver shaft length should be?  

Interested in hearing any pro's and con's on this.

Here is a "Ghetto" method to find the right club length and swing weight, without seeing a shop.

Get a whiteboard pen, some graffa tape, and a few coins.
- Mark the ball with a dot, facing sweet spot at address
- Hit a ball and look for impact mark.

- Against the heel side - Shaft is too long
- All over the face - Shaft is too long
- Out against the toe mostly - Shaft is to short
- Sweet spots more than 70 %, about maximum club length (within 3/4 of an inch large circle)

- To simulate different club lengths, put a 1/2 inch wide piece of tape on top of your grip, as you "chopped" that part of.
- Take your grip lower than the tape, and hit another ball - Look for impact marks.

- If your club head becomes to light (no control), put a peace of tape  on the butt of your club head (to protect it from scratches), then put a  coin on the tape, and seal it with some tape on top of it.
- A dime is a "dust" more than 2 grams, who equals to 1 Swing weight point
- Gripping down 0.5 will give the feeling of loosing 3 Swing weight points / 6 grams  / 3 x a dime from the club head.

But don't "trust" the standard value of the Club to be right for you.  Don't be afraid to try both higher and lower swing weight than standard  to find YOURS.

Its not precise, but you can also imitate another shaft weight, by adding weight 14" down from the butt.
- Swing weight and balance feel will be the same, but over all weight gains.

- Grip size, a bit larger might give your hands more comfort, relaxing  better for a better and more free release, that might gain some club  speed. -  Try that.
- Remember when you grip down, grip size goes down, and your grip might become to "tight".

Good luck!

Edited by Howard Jones, 10 May 2011 - 02:15 AM.


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Posted 10 May 2011 - 02:57 AM

View PostHoward Jones, on 10 May 2011 - 02:14 AM, said:

View Postgolferag, on 09 May 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

Anybody have any experience using a driver shaft less than 45".  I am 6'2" with long arms.  I think a shorter driver shaft around 43" might help my accuracy.  

Does naybody know how to determine what your driver shaft length should be?  

Interested in hearing any pro's and con's on this.

Here is a "Ghetto" method to find the right club length and swing weight, without seeing a shop.

Get a whiteboard pen, some graffa tape, and a few coins.
- Mark the ball with a dot, facing sweet spot at address
- Hit a ball and look for impact mark.

- Against the heel side - Shaft is too long
- All over the face - Shaft is too long
- Out against the toe mostly - Shaft is to short
- Sweet spots more than 70 %, about maximum club length (within 3/4 of an inch large circle)

- To simulate different club lengths, put a 1/2 inch wide piece of tape on top of your grip, as you "chopped" that part of.
- Take your grip lower than the tape, and hit another ball - Look for impact marks.

- If your club head becomes to light (no control), put a peace of tape  on the butt of your club head (to protect it from scratches), then put a  coin on the tape, and seal it with some tape on top of it.
- A dime is a "dust" more than 2 grams, who equals to 1 Swing weight point
- Gripping down 0.5 will give the feeling of loosing 3 Swing weight points / 6 grams  / 3 x a dime from the club head.

But don't "trust" the standard value of the Club to be right for you.  Don't be afraid to try both higher and lower swing weight than standard  to find YOURS.

Its not precise, but you can also imitate another shaft weight, by adding weight 14" down from the butt.
- Swing weight and balance feel will be the same, but over all weight gains.

- Grip size, a bit larger might give your hands more comfort, relaxing  better for a better and more free release, that might gain some club  speed. -  Try that.
- Remember when you grip down, grip size goes down, and your grip might become to "tight".

Good luck!

Now that is a good post. Especially about the swing weights and coins. I have always wanted to cut down my driver but was worried about affecting the weight, now there is no excuses. Again Thanks.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 06:45 AM

One way to handle the changing grip size is to do the exercise with a reduced taper grip, such as the Lamkin performance plus.

Great post Howard!


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Posted 10 May 2011 - 07:12 AM

View Post8orBetter, on 09 May 2011 - 02:44 PM, said:

Absolutely I think you should. I'm 5'11 with longish arms and I'm playing 43.75 in my R9 Superdeep and will hit it past 95+ % of anybody reading this.


lol. thats a pretty confident statement, pal....I would be willing to bet you are wrong


As for the question- I play a 44.5, down from a 45.5 and hit the ball consistantly further.  Do you find yourself choking down on your driver at all?  An easy way to check this is at the range, choke down on your driver and see where you are getting what you are looking for.  Or- if you have access to a fitter (trackman is great for this...), you can alwayshave him/her take a look at your swing/ball flight, etc.   Good luck!  

-I have always found it interesting that stock drivers have 45, 46, 46.5 shafts for "more distance"...pros can't hit 46.5 drivers consistantly in the fairway so how hell is a 12hc going to?
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 08:41 AM

Absolutely.  I've played my driver at 44" or 44.25" for a year, and since doing so I've hit the ball farther than ever.
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 08:44 AM

View PostHoward Jones, on 10 May 2011 - 02:14 AM, said:

View Postgolferag, on 09 May 2011 - 12:55 PM, said:

Anybody have any experience using a driver shaft less than 45".  I am 6'2" with long arms.  I think a shorter driver shaft around 43" might help my accuracy.  

Does naybody know how to determine what your driver shaft length should be?  

Interested in hearing any pro's and con's on this.

Here is a "Ghetto" method to find the right club length and swing weight, without seeing a shop.

Get a whiteboard pen, some graffa tape, and a few coins.
- Mark the ball with a dot, facing sweet spot at address
- Hit a ball and look for impact mark.

- Against the heel side - Shaft is too long
- All over the face - Shaft is too long
- Out against the toe mostly - Shaft is to short
- Sweet spots more than 70 %, about maximum club length (within 3/4 of an inch large circle)

- To simulate different club lengths, put a 1/2 inch wide piece of tape on top of your grip, as you "chopped" that part of.
- Take your grip lower than the tape, and hit another ball - Look for impact marks.

- If your club head becomes to light (no control), put a peace of tape  on the butt of your club head (to protect it from scratches), then put a  coin on the tape, and seal it with some tape on top of it.
- A dime is a "dust" more than 2 grams, who equals to 1 Swing weight point
- Gripping down 0.5 will give the feeling of loosing 3 Swing weight points / 6 grams  / 3 x a dime from the club head.

But don't "trust" the standard value of the Club to be right for you.  Don't be afraid to try both higher and lower swing weight than standard  to find YOURS.

Its not precise, but you can also imitate another shaft weight, by adding weight 14" down from the butt.
- Swing weight and balance feel will be the same, but over all weight gains.

- Grip size, a bit larger might give your hands more comfort, relaxing  better for a better and more free release, that might gain some club  speed. -  Try that.
- Remember when you grip down, grip size goes down, and your grip might become to "tight".

Good luck!

Great Summary.  Thanks for the explanation.  
I have a Titleist 905R with a proforce V2 that I am thinking about reshafting with a shorter shaft.  Considering either a prolaunch blue or YS6+.

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 10:07 AM

I play 43.75" - 44" (I'm 5'8"), much better control than 45"+ drivers and my swing is more balanced. I think tour average is under 45"

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 11:06 AM

I play a 44" and i hit it super straight and far, honestly you will get better consistency with a shorter driver.





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