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#1 A.G.Blade

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 05:59 AM

Looked at my swing on video last night and what a left arm chicken wing on the follow through!!! It was unreal.  What causes that to happen?


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:21 AM

View PostA.G.Blade, on 13 April 2011 - 05:59 AM, said:

Looked at my swing on video last night and what a left arm chicken wing on the follow through!!! It was unreal.  What causes that to happen?

Lack of connection on the downswing.To correct this place a small nerf ball deep inside your left armpit.Swing without dropping the ball.This drill will help  connect the upper arm to your chest at impact and beyond,thus eliminating the chicken wing.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:27 AM

View Postrussc, on 13 April 2011 - 07:21 AM, said:

View PostA.G.Blade, on 13 April 2011 - 05:59 AM, said:

Looked at my swing on video last night and what a left arm chicken wing on the follow through!!! It was unreal.  What causes that to happen?

Lack of connection on the downswing.To correct this place a small nerf ball deep inside your left armpit.Swing without dropping the ball.This drill will help  connect the upper arm to your chest at impact and beyond,thus eliminating the chicken wing.

stalling the rotation will also cause chiken wing.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 07:46 AM

I agree on the incomplete "finish" if you don't mind calling it that. If your torsional rotation of your upper body slows down, you still need to get to your finish. When you slow down there is almost no way not to come around into a chicken wing. Think about the golf swing and what should occur... it makes sense.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 12:45 PM

For me in my swing it is a reaction to other things being wrong in my swing. The chicken wing just meant I made a compensation somewhere for something else.


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Posted 13 April 2011 - 04:16 PM

thx, will try the nerf AND speeding up torso rotation.  I cant help but feel its tied into my reverse "c" finish

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 09:20 PM

View PostA.G.Blade, on 13 April 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

thx, will try the nerf AND speeding up torso rotation.  I cant help but feel its tied into my reverse "c" finish


I don't see how putting a nerf under your left armpit would help this, and in fact, have the totally opposite result.  Chicken wing is lack of extension.

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 09:40 PM

View Postlarrybud, on 13 April 2011 - 09:20 PM, said:

View PostA.G.Blade, on 13 April 2011 - 04:16 PM, said:

thx, will try the nerf AND speeding up torso rotation.  I cant help but feel its tied into my reverse "c" finish


I don't see how putting a nerf under your left armpit would help this, and in fact, have the totally opposite result.  Chicken wing is lack of extension.


+1...more extension down the line will remedy this.
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Posted 13 April 2011 - 10:07 PM

You get a chicken wing when your arms swing is out of sync with your shoulder turn, such that your hands come down and forward too soon, and you run out right arm and get too much left arm to keep the swing going. You need to treat your left arm as a rope that you keep stretch for as long as possible into the follow through.

If it's any comfort, you're in good company with Lee Westwood and Jamie Sadlowski. They both chicken wing their way through impact.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 04:19 AM

The chicken wing is really tied in to the left knee flex in 'most' cases....because the left arm can easily begin to bend as the left leg straightens. So the key is ....where are you in your rotation when the left knee begins to really straighten. If your hips are still relatively square and you straighten your left leg abruptly you WILL chicken wing it.


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#11 A.G.Blade

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:09 AM

Thanks for all your responses.  I guess if Lee isn't worried about it then I shouldn't either!.  Lack of extension makes sense, my right arm cannot fully striaghten, Im not sure why but its been that way my whole life ( full extension about 160 degrees).  I did try the nerf ball last night with just swings and it felt very "short" in the follow through.  Ithink if I got to my left side better it might help everything...but thats another problem and another post!

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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:50 AM

You are also most likely not releasing fully & naturally through the ball allowing the forearms to turn over. If your forearms turn over then you cannot have a chicken wing. More than likely there is an element of 'holding on' through impact.

Best thing (as for most fixes) is the good old 9 to 3 swing. Toe pointing skyward at both ends of the swing.

Say goodbye to the chicken win and hello to more distance.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 06:01 AM

View PostLegend McSniff, on 15 April 2011 - 06:50 AM, said:

You are also most likely not releasing fully & naturally through the ball allowing the forearms to turn over. If your forearms turn over then you cannot have a chicken wing. More than likely there is an element of 'holding on' through impact.

Best thing (as for most fixes) is the good old 9 to 3 swing. Toe pointing skyward at both ends of the swing.

Say goodbye to the chicken win and hello to more distance.


Thanks, will try that one for sure; the pitching range in my yard will be ready soon, seems like a perfect drill for that

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 06:48 AM

I think it's interesting that the finish is really just a result of what happened on the backswing and then prior to impact.  At that point, you are going to get whatever finish you deserve to get, it just happens, it can't really be forced or changed.  I notice on my best drives, that club shaft just wraps so nicely against the back of my neck on the finish.  And on my irons, my best shots end up with my right arm fully extending almost like a piston. For me, keeping that left arm straight, making a full turn, and being more flat than steep at the top, are what make the difference.  That, and not letting those hands take over coming into impact.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:47 AM

A chicken wing is the golfers attempt to hold off their own flip.  Casting and early release - and no body rotation all cause the cast/flip and the chicken wing must happen or the golfer will miss the ball.


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Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:54 AM

You probably stall your body rotation and flip. Keep everything moving into the finish. Focus on the core.

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 09:52 PM

View Postmchepp, on 13 April 2011 - 12:45 PM, said:

For me in my swing it is a reaction to other things being wrong in my swing. The chicken wing just meant I made a compensation somewhere for something else.
+1

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Posted 25 September 2011 - 10:07 PM

From what my golf instructor told me, one of the big reasons for a chicken Wing that amateurs, like myself face, was that we are to steep and off plane coming into the ball. I was lifting my arms too much on my backswing. Being over plane does not give us room to follow thru properly. He never gave me any drills to correct the chicken wing, he just told me to try and match my arms and shoulders on the backswing and simply rotate thru and VOILA!! Chicken Wing was gone and a lot more distance and accuracy!

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Posted 26 September 2011 - 05:24 PM

View PostKevin N., on 25 September 2011 - 10:07 PM, said:

From what my golf instructor told me....He never gave me any drills to correct the chicken wing, he just told me to try and match my arms and shoulders on the backswing and simply rotate thru and VOILA!!


This advice is waaay undervalued by players.  Unison in the swing is key.  Matching arms to shoulders back , through, at impact, and at finish is HUGE....

People get tied up in hips leading the downswing, arms lifting, dropping hands into slot, finishing high and around...blah...

Unison swinging will improve your ball striking better than anything else I've ever worked on.

Thanks for repeating this one...

Edited by station2station, 26 September 2011 - 05:25 PM.


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Posted 27 September 2011 - 01:01 AM

View Poststation2station, on 26 September 2011 - 05:24 PM, said:

View PostKevin N., on 25 September 2011 - 10:07 PM, said:

From what my golf instructor told me....He never gave me any drills to correct the chicken wing, he just told me to try and match my arms and shoulders on the backswing and simply rotate thru and VOILA!!


This advice is waaay undervalued by players.  Unison in the swing is key.  Matching arms to shoulders back , through, at impact, and at finish is HUGE....

People get tied up in hips leading the downswing, arms lifting, dropping hands into slot, finishing high and around...blah...

Unison swinging will improve your ball striking better than anything else I've ever worked on.

Thanks for repeating this one...


Thanks!

I believe that the steeper the backswing, or the steeper the plane, the more hand manipulation there must be thru the impact zone to avoid the chicken wing follow thru.

Two examples that come to mind for me are Adam Scott and Jason Day's old swing. They used to be a lot steeper with their hands on the backswing, forcing them to manipulate the club thru the impact zone.

Now they both have a shallower backswing and their arms are more in front of the chest which allows them to simply rotate thru and really get on that left side for crisper shots.


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