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Snead's swing was better


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#31 JD3

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Posted 19 April 2011 - 04:51 PM

View Postisaacbm, on 18 April 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

View Posttembolo1284, on 18 April 2011 - 06:31 AM, said:

View Postisaacbm, on 17 April 2011 - 01:30 PM, said:


Why do you think O Grady has the best living swing?  Please give many details....

So where did JD go?

I don't know!  I was actually interested in someone arguing this point.  I'm not saying it's completely wrong,  but hard to make the argument when hes not in the top 500 players of all time.
  I guess that brings up the question:  What really makes a good swing?
OK, I'll play. But I'll change the rules a little: if you were to change something about that swing, what would it be?

btw, that's not the same swing he had some 25+ yrs ago on tour.


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Posted 19 April 2011 - 11:26 PM

View PostJD3, on 19 April 2011 - 04:51 PM, said:

View Postisaacbm, on 18 April 2011 - 10:49 PM, said:

View Posttembolo1284, on 18 April 2011 - 06:31 AM, said:

View Postisaacbm, on 17 April 2011 - 01:30 PM, said:

Why do you think O Grady has the best living swing?  Please give many details....

So where did JD go?

I don't know!  I was actually interested in someone arguing this point.  I'm not saying it's completely wrong,  but hard to make the argument when hes not in the top 500 players of all time.
  I guess that brings up the question:  What really makes a good swing?
OK, I'll play. But I'll change the rules a little: if you were to change something about that swing, what would it be?

btw, that's not the same swing he had some 25+ yrs ago on tour.

.  I'm just going to say one thing about the golf swing.  A good golf swing is one that repeats and does so under pressure.  That's it that's all.  The rest of it is just show.  People can say all they want about how "good" (what ever that means) a swing is but if you can't play golf under pressure, what does it matter.  For the record,  I like Mac's swing just fine.  But Jim Furyk's is WWWWAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY better.  So are any of the top ten strangest swings on the golf channels tops ten list. They've all won lots of tournaments so that means their weird move works! To me if it doesn't work under pressure,  it's just a pretty move.  There is way too much obsession these days with having a good looking swing and trying to copy the swing's of people that we think are "good."
Groove your own move is what I say....  We need to get back to playing golf instead of playing golf swing.

Wow that sounded like a rant......  LOL!

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Posted 21 April 2011 - 08:18 AM

Dammit Isaac, that was a great post!
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Posted 05 May 2011 - 10:30 AM

View Postgvogel, on 31 December 2010 - 02:10 PM, said:

OK, got your attention!

But, check out this footage of Sam:



Now, Sam may not have analyzed his swing as well as Ben did his, may not have practiced as much as Ben, and may have had worse nerves for finishing a US Open than Ben.  Remember also, Sam almost won the Open in 1937 and 1939, and was playing his best golf before the war - so the war might have had something to do with Sam never winning an Open.

But, when I look at Sam, I see a swing that is just as pure, on-plane, fluid, athletic and sound as Mr. Hogan's.  

What am I missing?

Look at that ball flight at 1:06...wow.  Low, boring missle...great footage.  Thanks for posting this vid
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Posted 10 May 2011 - 01:49 PM

definitely sexy sexy stuff.

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Posted 10 May 2011 - 08:38 PM

If you've been hitting golf balls since you're a teenager, you would be good most probably.. Now, if you're swing is correct, it will be consistent, under pressure...

Both Hogan and Snead played golf since they are way young... But Hogan became suddenly consistent much later.. What does that tell you?...

























Snead finally taught Hogan! Lol! What were you thinking?... Lol

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:37 AM

Question...If MORAD has a higher % of its make-up based on Snead's action...why don't the MORAD guys analyze Snead's swing more? Come on folks let's do a thorough analysis of Snead too.  

Who wants to start?  Particularly interested in the hip height to hip height area of the downswing before and after the ball contact.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:37 PM

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 08:24 AM

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great post sir!
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 01:47 PM

I recently read Sam's biography written by Al Barkow. There he mentions many times that Snead was just about as good a ballstriker as Hogan was, or sometimes even better. Snead was very long and very accurate. Anyways, Barkow came to the conclusion that Sam didn't have as good a concentration and tournament preparation as Hogan did, and therefore he didn't have quite as good success in majors as Hogan did.

For instance, Snead often had really big struggles deciding which club he wants to hit. He was almost always checking his playing partners bags for what clubs they were using. Needless to say, Snead probably hit at least one club further than many of his colleagues, so he often missclubbed himself horribly. And to make matters worse, some of his opponents took advantage of the situation by saying the wrong clubs to him.

Barkow also mentioned that in a Masters Tournament well into the 60's, Snead was finally starting to take yardages at the course. He had already played the tournament probably nearly 30 times. Even his playing partner was wondering out loud about why didn't he take the yardages of the course about 30 years ago.

Considering all this, Snead really may have had the better ballstriking. We cannot really know the truth, since there are no real statistics from that era. But one thing is for sure: Hogan had the superior mindset and concentration. Who knows how many majors Sam would have gotten with mr. Hogans mind? Even Hogan himself said that Snead was the best he ever saw, and he was just about the only opponent he feared to play.


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Posted 09 December 2011 - 03:52 PM

I'm gonna check out that book.
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Posted 21 December 2011 - 03:01 PM

Chris...I can't find your analylsis on Snead...can you post it here by any chance?
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 03:27 PM

View Posttembolo1284, on 21 December 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

Chris...I can't find your analylsis on Snead...can you post it here by any chance?


I NEVER CADDIED FOR BEN OR SAM, BUT I CADDIED FOR MY DAD AND UNCLE WHEN THEY PLAYED WITH BOTH OF THEM (USUALLY BEFORE THE TAMOSHANTER TOURNAMENT) IN CHICAGO . MYDAD WAS THE PRO ATBEVERLYCC IN CHICAGO. THERE WERE NO PRO AMS BEFORE A TOURNAMENT AT THE TIME. THEY CAME TO BEVERLY TO PREPARE. IN MY OPINION, SAM WAS LONGER AND A BETTER WEDGE PLAYER. BEN WAS A BETTER THINKER AND PUTTER. BEN NEVER BEAT SAM IN A MATCH PLAY EVENT OR IN A PLAYOFF. EVERYONE TRIED TO COPY SAM, NO ONE TRIED TO COPY BEN. I HAVE MOVIES THAT MY DAD TOOK OF BEN BEFORE THE ACCIDENT. ANYONE I HAVE EVER SHOWN THE FILM  COMES AWAY DISAPPOINTED. DOC SUTTIE HAD ME SHOW THEM TO AZINGER BEFORE HE BECAME RYDER CAPTAIN.


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Posted 24 December 2011 - 04:17 PM

Very odd!

At first glance at the #1 posted video, two things jumped out specifically:



1) The left knee snap that I saw in Tiger Woods' swing pre-surgery


2) Michelle Wie's pelvis snap in her Kia Soul commercial.
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