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can you adjust lie on cast clubs?


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#1 Showtime

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:33 PM

Was curious if it was a problem adjusting the lie two degree's upright on Titleist ap1?  Had heard it should'nt be done, but it can be?  Any help appreciated.  TIA

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:36 PM

Yes, though 2 degrees is probably the max you'd want to go.
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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:52 PM

Titleist state that AP1's can go up to 4 degrees upright and 2 degrees flat from standard.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 05:28 PM

I think it depends on the skill level of the person doing the bending.  I've broken two clubs in my life a 962 8 iron and a 990 3 iron.  

Companies whose cast irons that I won't touch:  Taylor Made, Callaway, Cleveland and Titleist.

I'm not saying that it can't be done but that is my experience.

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:30 PM

View Postjaskanski, on 21 November 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

Titleist state that AP1's can go up to 4 degrees upright and 2 degrees flat from standard.

Not sure how this can be? A cast club is a poured club and has a very random molecular structure. I can see no reasoning why it can be bent more in 1 direction than the other?

I'm sure these can be bent but are at risk of breakage if a limit is past.
Cast in most cases is 2 degrees.


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Posted 21 November 2010 - 07:45 PM

View PostTLT_Dan, on 21 November 2010 - 07:30 PM, said:

View Postjaskanski, on 21 November 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

Titleist state that AP1's can go up to 4 degrees upright and 2 degrees flat from standard.

Not sure how this can be? A cast club is a poured club and has a very random molecular structure. I can see no reasoning why it can be bent more in 1 direction than the other?

I'm sure these can be bent but are at risk of breakage if a limit is past.
Cast in most cases is 2 degrees.

the reason I'm guessing is related to the shape of the clubhead itself.  You have a corner formed by the head and the hosel....by bending it flat, you stress that inner part of that corner.  With some alloys, such as those used in a casting, that can cause breakage.
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Posted 22 November 2010 - 06:22 PM

Sorry to threadjack a bit, but how about Adams.  I have a set of A7 that I wanted to get bent upright 2* but the two golftowns near me said they would do them but they didn't recommend it as they would be likely to break and it would be my risk.  I am using a different set but still have these in the garage.



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Posted 22 November 2010 - 08:26 PM

View Postchickenpotpie, on 21 November 2010 - 07:45 PM, said:

View PostTLT_Dan, on 21 November 2010 - 07:30 PM, said:

View Postjaskanski, on 21 November 2010 - 04:52 PM, said:

Titleist state that AP1's can go up to 4 degrees upright and 2 degrees flat from standard.

Not sure how this can be? A cast club is a poured club and has a very random molecular structure. I can see no reasoning why it can be bent more in 1 direction than the other?

I'm sure these can be bent but are at risk of breakage if a limit is past.
Cast in most cases is 2 degrees.

the reason I'm guessing is related to the shape of the clubhead itself.  You have a corner formed by the head and the hosel....by bending it flat, you stress that inner part of that corner.  With some alloys, such as those used in a casting, that can cause breakage.

Perhaps that is what their belief is. The corner may bend easier, but the other side has to come with it.
I pretty much go by feel, and I can get a sense when nearing the limit.

I will say this though, I do find I can flatten heads easier than I can upright them,
so......maybe......possibly....still don't think so??

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 10:15 PM

Just my .02 as I gamed AP1's this summer. I'm 6'4 and had them bent 2*up in the spring. By last week they had returned almost to stock. Couldn't figure out why i was pushing everything towards the end of the season. I now know why... I picked up a set of srixy 701's on the bay and plan on uprighting them because I actually need 3* upright and knew the AP's weren't gonna do it...




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