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#31 ZombieDave

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Posted 12 May 2011 - 04:46 AM

So is it a good thing or a bad thing that Cameron wasn't the first to copy it...?

Anyways... the thing I find odd isn't that he (and every other manufacturer) has copied the Ping Anser.  What I find odd is that after loads of research in the putter lab, with the best tour pros, and equipment to use, he's discovered that the perfect putting stroke is an arc, and the best putters to use for this stroke have 1/4 toe hang, and that's why most Scotty Cameron putters have 1/4 toe hang.

It's obviously pure coincidence that Karsten Solheim's Anser putters happened to have the same toe hang 50 years ago, before all of Scotty Cameron's research.


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Posted 12 May 2011 - 08:43 AM

So there is one perfect putting stroke for all people? Oh boy.

Around the time the patent ran out on the anser (1984 I think) several people made their own versions. There's a difference in one's own take on the most popular head and a duplicate CAD file slipping through the cracks.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:27 PM

I once drank the Kool-Aid too and I had a nice collection of camerons including the elusive Classic 1 (READ 009). But I am a playa, feel playa to boot,  and I use my stuff. In my desire to have two exact putters with identical feel I found out the nasty truth. Two exact Cameron putters do not feel the same. In fact the headweights are across the board. I then think back to a tour I had at Cleveland Golf. I learned that all of the heads are now made in China. The cost is significantly less but quality control is very poor. In fact Cleveland has guys adding heck of weights to heads during iron assembly to get the swingweights more consistent.  That said, I know why Camerons do not feel the same. They are mass produced in CHINA.

I wanted more for my club dollars especially since Scotty increased putter costs to the $300 range. (How much is a set of irons???!) So I sold all my Camerons (Thank$$$ Scotty Fans) and I called David Mills. End of story.
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:47 PM

View PostTinuke, on 20 November 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

I once drank the Kool-Aid too and I had a nice collection of camerons including the elusive Classic 1 (READ 009). But I am a playa, feel playa to boot,  and I use my stuff. In my desire to have two exact putters with identical feel I found out the nasty truth. Two exact Cameron putters do not feel the same. In fact the headweights are across the board. I then think back to a tour I had at Cleveland Golf. I learned that all of the heads are now made in China. The cost is significantly less but quality control is very poor. In fact Cleveland has guys adding heck of weights to heads during iron assembly to get the swingweights more consistent.  That said, I know why Camerons do not feel the same. They are mass produced in CHINA.

I wanted more for my club dollars especially since Scotty increased putter costs to the $300 range. (How much is a set of irons???!) So I sold all my Camerons (Thank$$$ Scotty Fans) and I called David Mills. End of story.

I'm sort of scratching my head here............why did you post this in a two year old thread?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

View Postsustain, on 20 November 2012 - 02:47 PM, said:

View PostTinuke, on 20 November 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

I once drank the Kool-Aid too and I had a nice collection of camerons including the elusive Classic 1 (READ 009). But I am a playa, feel playa to boot,  and I use my stuff. In my desire to have two exact putters with identical feel I found out the nasty truth. Two exact Cameron putters do not feel the same. In fact the headweights are across the board. I then think back to a tour I had at Cleveland Golf. I learned that all of the heads are now made in China. The cost is significantly less but quality control is very poor. In fact Cleveland has guys adding heck of weights to heads during iron assembly to get the swingweights more consistent.  That said, I know why Camerons do not feel the same. They are mass produced in CHINA.

I wanted more for my club dollars especially since Scotty increased putter costs to the $300 range. (How much is a set of irons???!) So I sold all my Camerons (Thank$$$ Scotty Fans) and I called David Mills. End of story.

I'm sort of scratching my head here............why did you post this in a two year old thread?

Probably been waiting to get that off his chest. Hopefully he feels better. GolfWRX can be quite therapeutic. :-)

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

some neat history in this thread, regardless of the assinine way it was uncovered.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:53 PM

View Postsustain, on 20 November 2012 - 02:47 PM, said:

View PostTinuke, on 20 November 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

I once drank the Kool-Aid too and I had a nice collection of camerons including the elusive Classic 1 (READ 009). But I am a playa, feel playa to boot,  and I use my stuff. In my desire to have two exact putters with identical feel I found out the nasty truth. Two exact Cameron putters do not feel the same. In fact the headweights are across the board. I then think back to a tour I had at Cleveland Golf. I learned that all of the heads are now made in China. The cost is significantly less but quality control is very poor. In fact Cleveland has guys adding heck of weights to heads during iron assembly to get the swingweights more consistent.  That said, I know why Camerons do not feel the same. They are mass produced in CHINA.

I wanted more for my club dollars especially since Scotty increased putter costs to the $300 range. (How much is a set of irons???!) So I sold all my Camerons (Thank$$$ Scotty Fans) and I called David Mills. End of story.

I'm sort of scratching my head here............why did you post this in a two year old thread?

I'm still scratcing my head... :beruo:

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:42 AM

View PostTinuke, on 20 November 2012 - 02:27 PM, said:

I once drank the Kool-Aid too and I had a nice collection of camerons including the elusive Classic 1 (READ 009). But I am a playa, feel playa to boot,  and I use my stuff. In my desire to have two exact putters with identical feel I found out the nasty truth. Two exact Cameron putters do not feel the same. In fact the headweights are across the board. I then think back to a tour I had at Cleveland Golf. I learned that all of the heads are now made in China. The cost is significantly less but quality control is very poor. In fact Cleveland has guys adding heck of weights to heads during iron assembly to get the swingweights more consistent.  That said, I know why Camerons do not feel the same. They are mass produced in CHINA.

I wanted more for my club dollars especially since Scotty increased putter costs to the $300 range. (How much is a set of irons???!) So I sold all my Camerons (Thank$$$ Scotty Fans) and I called David Mills. End of story.

Cameron has too many eyeballs on his production to get away with Chinese production when he publically declares his putter heads are milled in Southern California.  He's still a ****** bag though.  And you can take that downtown and print it!

Edited by 502 to Right, 21 November 2012 - 01:47 AM.

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