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[Shallowface]

xgolfx, on 17 January 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

astamm8, on 16 January 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

I'm saying that I think there's a chance that he was play a one off version that started life as a forged flatback and that looked just like that. That's how the Miurfields and 20ths were born, and I bet all of the Mac blades. The photos, etc. wouldn't address that. He was definitely playing a club that looked like that one in '78 including at St Andrews.

There's also the ad that says Jack won 20 majors with MacGregor forgings, but I don't put much stock in the ads.

Jack played cast irons designed by David Graham with Jack's tweaking. Graham said he defied anyone to tell the difference

CHARLEY PENNA

Charley, as usual you've provided the definitive answer. Thanks!

Re: that ad about Jack winning all of his majors with MacGregor forgings, truth is he only won one major in that 1976-79 stretch, the 1978 British Open.  Didn't he have a deal with Slazenger to play their clubs in the British Open in the 1960s and at least early 1970s? He doesn't mention Slazenger specifically, but on Page 52 of Golf My Way (published in 1973) he does mention having contracts to use clubs other than what he normally used in Europe and Australia.  Don't know if this was still going on in 1978 or not.

Regardless, I just knew Jack wouldn't say he used something when he didn't.

Edited by Shallowface, 18 January 2013 - 08:51 AM.

[xgolfx]

Shallowface, on 17 January 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

xgolfx, on 17 January 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

astamm8, on 16 January 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

I'm saying that I think there's a chance that he was play a one off version that started life as a forged flatback and that looked just like that. That's how the Miurfields and 20ths were born, and I bet all of the Mac blades. The photos, etc. wouldn't address that. He was definitely playing a club that looked like that one in '78 including at St Andrews.

There's also the ad that says Jack won 20 majors with MacGregor forgings, but I don't put much stock in the ads.

Jack played cast irons designed by David Graham with Jack's tweaking. Graham said he defied anyone to tell the difference

When my good friend. Gene Troy, signed Jack for MacGregor, it was for USA only. He used Slazenger in the Open in Europe and played awful

CHARLEY PENNA

CHARLEY PENNA

Charley, as usual you've provided the definitive answer. Thanks!

Re: that ad about Jack winning all of his majors with MacGregor forgings, truth is he only won one major in that 1976-79 stretch, the 1978 British Open.  Didn't he have a deal with Slazenger to play their clubs in the British Open in the 1960s and at least early 1970s? He doesn't mention Slazenger specifically, but on Page 52 of Golf My Way (published in 1973) he does mention having contracts to use clubs other than what he normally used in Europe and Australia.  Don't know if this was still going on in 1978 or not.

Regardless, I just knew Jack wouldn't say he used something when he didn't.

[Texsport]

dan360, on 18 September 2010 - 09:26 PM, said:

This may be a bit sacreligious, but I think some of the best MacGregor irons were the last few made before the company closed down.

The 1025M and 1025C are very good and ridiculously cheap for a modern player's muscleback or player's cavity.      I saw a set of DW 1025M's go for less than $300 at a local charity auction.....wished I would have signed up as a bidder.    argh

I think it depends on if you are collecting historically significant clubs, or looking for something to play.

Historical----985 Silver Scott's and 1967 VIP.

Playing------Tour issue M675 and their last great effort, the PRO-M and PRO -C.

I own, and have played all these clubs. Current bag has M675 with KBS C-Taper shafts. Am shafting up a set of PRO-M/ C-Tapers just now. I played PRO-C clubs before that.

Some of the models immediately preceeding the M675 were thought to be a little hard to hit because of a tiny seet spot.

Texsport

[astamm8]

Texsport,

Are you currently playing tour issue M675s? If so, I'd love to see some pics. Badds set of those are probably my all time favorites.

[Texsport]

astamm8, on 18 January 2013 - 09:28 AM, said:

Texsport,

Are you currently playing tour issue M675s? If so, I'd love to see some pics. Badds set of those are probably my all time favorites.

Yes, the 2,3, and 4 irons are also different from the retail sets.

The Tour version doesn't have the game improvement hollow heads, meant to help hit those longer irons higher.

The M675 model was designed/developed by Dave Wood, when he was VP of Development at MacGregor. Dave related a story about him showing the clubs to Jose Marie Olazabal on the range---probably at the old MacGregor Custom/Tour club location that used to be in Albany, Georgia.

Dave mentioned how easy it was to hit high shots with the new game improvement design. Ollie just turned and started launching super high 3-iron shots with the previous year's model.

So, Dave obviously also designed the Tour M675 2,3, and 4-irons.

The V Foil woods and irons were his design.

Texsport

Edited by Texsport, 19 January 2013 - 10:43 AM.

[MacgregorFan]

xgolfx, on 17 January 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Jack played cast irons designed by David Graham with Jack's tweaking. Graham said he defied anyone to tell the difference
CHARLEY PENNA

I can vouch for that....I've hit balls blindfolded and couldn't tell the difference between forged or cast blades.
I was told that 2 forged sets had been made of the 77 VIPs.  Nothing about Jack actually playing them.  I wish I could remember the source, but no big deal.  Urban legend.

[teevons]

MacgregorFan, on 18 January 2013 - 10:45 PM, said:

xgolfx, on 17 January 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Jack played cast irons designed by David Graham with Jack's tweaking. Graham said he defied anyone to tell the difference
CHARLEY PENNA

I can vouch for that....I've hit balls blindfolded and couldn't tell the difference between forged or cast blades.
I was told that 2 forged sets had been made of the 77 VIPs.  Nothing about Jack actually playing them.  I wish I could remember the source, but no big deal.  Urban legend.

here is the picture of Jack Playing them in the 78 Players

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