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#1 dukeman

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:14 PM

If you had to pick one set of MacGregor irons, which would it be?

I like the look of some of the Silver Scots that I've seen, but there are so many others to consider.

Recommendations, please.

PS...I've seen reference to a Kaplan book on golf club history. What's the full title?



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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:46 PM

 dukeman, on 18 September 2010 - 08:14 PM, said:

If you had to pick one set of MacGregor irons, which would it be?

I like the look of some of the Silver Scots that I've seen, but there are so many others to consider.

Recommendations, please.

PS...I've seen reference to a Kaplan book on golf club history. What's the full title?



There is a MacGregor Golf History Catalogue by Jim Kaplan. There are two editions(1980 & 2000)  I have a few sets of MacGregor irons. One's a set of Mens R/H 1952 Tommy Armour 915's and  the other is 1951 MacGregor Ben Hogan Parmakers model 1622's. They are both complete sets but as I listen to more experienced golfers I can 't help but wonder about early 60's Wilson Staff "Turfriders".  I hear alot about the feel of these irons and how many PGA/LPGA players won tournaments with these irons.
I have a rebuilt set and have hit a few golf balls with them and they are a very nice set of irons too!
Attached is a couple of pictures of the set of MacGregor BH's Parmakers 1622.

Edited by Maxwell, 18 September 2010 - 08:52 PM.


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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:46 PM

MacGregor Golf
History -- Catalogs

edited by Jim Kaplan
Vintage Publishing Co.
Rancho Mirage, CA, 92270 (USA)

1-760-416-1115
info.vintagepublishing.com

All the above from my copy of the book. I tried the web address and I did not see how to get a copy. Maybe you need to call. It might well be out of print and unavailable.

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 09:08 PM

1967 VIP bY Nicklaus.. No question.....
If not those, then Toney Penna VIPs

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 09:26 PM

This may be a bit sacreligious, but I think some of the best MacGregor irons were the last few made before the company closed down.

The 1025M and 1025C are very good and ridiculously cheap for a modern player's muscleback or player's cavity.      I saw a set of DW 1025M's go for less than $300 at a local charity auction.....wished I would have signed up as a bidder.    argh

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 09:11 AM

Have always loved the Muirfields.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:13 PM

I have a set of MT's from the mid '80's I just put into my bag.  I absolutely love them.  It looks a bit odd, I think, to be playing the Titleist D3 dr. Sonartec 3 wd, TEE 5wd, 4 and 5 hybrids, then 5-pw vintage blades, Eidolon SW and 60.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:17 PM

Love the 1025M and the PCB Tour

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 11:46 PM

I'd say that Muirfield 20ths and 'the 985' irons are 2 of my favorites. And they're both very classic Mac blades and can be had for a good price.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:09 PM

I like the Muirfield 20th and VIP remake irons.  I owned both sets and both were outstanding.


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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:18 PM

Having grown up in Ohio I played a lot of MacGregor Irons from my Custom 985's made for my older brother to a set made in Albany for me from VIP blanks and stamped with the Wing MT.  I think that of the recent clubs the remake of the VIP's that were made are the very best heads I have seen.  These were made with all the best technology and a very close resemblance but slightly different and better in my mind.  I would love to own a set but never was lucky enough to get them.
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:24 PM

On ebay now there are complete sets of new VIPs, Muirfields, and 20th anniversary irons and woods from a seller in Miami. They will probably go for something out of my price range, but pretty cool to see!



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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:44 PM

 RobotDoctor, on 24 September 2010 - 10:09 PM, said:

I like the Muirfield 20th and VIP remake irons.  I owned both sets and both were outstanding.

Had both also, and sold both.

Still kicking myself.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:21 PM

Here are my two, TadIMG_0932.jpg

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 04:27 PM

 majic, on 25 September 2010 - 03:21 PM, said:

Here are my two, Tad

I think your winged MT irons are very similar to the "script VIP tourney" irons I picked up recently. Personally I like the winged MT stamp better than the script VIP, but still and all, that is cosmetic and they play really nice.
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 06:06 PM

I think my Winged MT's date from 1983-84.  Clay was still there and Jack had not won with Clay's "big" putter yet.  Tad

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 07:14 PM

Those Tommy Armour 'the 985's are beauties.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 08:30 PM

These are my dad's and I hope to get them one day.  From the late 1950s.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 08:40 PM

 majic, on 25 September 2010 - 03:21 PM, said:

Here are my two, Tad IMG_0932.jpg

Noticed your Tommy Armour Customs.   I have an identical set with the original cord grips.  I have been
trying  to figure out if they are the mid 60s version or a custom version of the early 50s models.  The
grind is more squared off and modern than the 50s line.  Whats your take on the vintage?

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:19 PM

I am quite sure my set that i got from my brother were ordered by him around1960-1963.  I will ask him to see if he remembers when he ordered them. Tad


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Posted 27 September 2010 - 03:19 PM

 majic, on 25 September 2010 - 10:19 PM, said:

I am quite sure my set that i got from my brother were ordered by him around1960-1963.  I will ask him to see if he remembers when he ordered them. Tad


 Thanks.  My guess was early or mid 60s.  Really solid playing set even with the cord grips that are a little slick.  Wanted to keep them original so have

not changed them.

 



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Posted 27 September 2010 - 04:18 PM

another vote for 985 Customs

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 07:05 PM

I liked the 985 model, too, but I just found a set of 20th irons, 1-sw....very clean and at a very good price. I haven't been able to hit them yet, but I'll be digging some turf this weekend!

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 11:44 PM

Those are some of the best feeling and performing irons I've ever played. Very small blade with the unforgiving 'Nicklaus grind', but absolutely top notch. Well played!

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 07:38 AM

Best picture I can come up with, but here's the set

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Posted 29 September 2010 - 07:44 AM

I've seen a thread here about the best playing sets of the various decades. I was lucky enough to ifnd a copy of Classic Golf Clubs by Joe Clement, with a price guide insert that published in 1980. He shows the 985s, and Nicklaus and Toney Penna VIPs as having the most value. The FC4000s and VFQs are my personal favorites from the early 60s, along with the 1969 and 1965 Wilson Staffs. Wilson also produced the Haig Ultras in the late 60s as "curvy" versions of the Staffs, and they are very pretty, and the Crenshaw Grind is probably the most prized set of Haigs.. The 50s are a bit different story. Early in that decade, the Spalding Topflite stainless steel irons were considered the best, but many of the Macgregors (M75,M85, 915) came into favor as the decade progressed. Spalding moved to chrome models in 1955, and this began their decline from the elite. The VIPs of the late 60s rivaled the Staffs as well. After 1980, I'd guess the Staffs were holding their own, but the Hogans and Mizunos came to the forefront, with the later VIPs and Muirfields marking the last of the great Macgreogor irons. All this is just my opinion, and I have several sets that generally conform to this ranking. As players, I favor the FC4000s of the early 60s. They seem light enough to be a bit more forgiving than other blades, but that might be because of swing weight rather than model. After that, I have a special fondness for the 73-75 Staffs with the removable weight port, although these are not nearly as collectable as other Staffs. The 1962 Turfriders are considered special players, and I read somewhere that the Wilson X-31s and these were designed for heavier types of turf.

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Posted 01 October 2010 - 12:49 AM

 honketyhank, on 18 September 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:

MacGregor Golf
History -- Catalogs

edited by Jim Kaplan
Vintage Publishing Co.
Rancho Mirage, CA, 92270 (USA)

1-760-416-1115
info.vintagepublishing.com

All the above from my copy of the book. I tried the web address and I did not see how to get a copy. Maybe you need to call. It might well be out of print and unavailable.

I recently bought 2 new copies of the Kaplan book from a seller on eBay,  Frank's Antiques and Auctions(franksauct@aol.com).  Send them a note -- they had a few more in stock, I think.  The publisher in Rancho Mirage cannot seem to be located, from my research, probably out of business.

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 02:11 PM

 pretzelbag, on 01 October 2010 - 12:49 AM, said:

 honketyhank, on 18 September 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:

MacGregor Golf
History -- Catalogs

edited by Jim Kaplan
Vintage Publishing Co.
Rancho Mirage, CA, 92270 (USA)

1-760-416-1115
info.vintagepublishing.com

All the above from my copy of the book. I tried the web address and I did not see how to get a copy. Maybe you need to call. It might well be out of print and unavailable.

I recently bought 2 new copies of the Kaplan book from a seller on eBay,  Frank's Antiques and Auctions(franksauct@aol.com).  Send them a note -- they had a few more in stock, I think.  The publisher in Rancho Mirage cannot seem to be located, from my research, probably out of business.
Here is a rare set made for the Japanese market, very pretty clubs Macgregor Royal Tourney. Shafts and grips are custom Macgregor. Picked them up at a thrift shop years ago, no pitching wedge ,I have been looking for a wedge for 8 years. Probably will never find it!!

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Posted 19 February 2011 - 05:03 PM

To answer the original question:

'67 VIP's with the gold marbled ferrules, no question #1


#2 tied:  Several different T. Armour's and Tourney Custom's



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Posted 19 February 2011 - 05:46 PM

 teevons, on 19 February 2011 - 02:11 PM, said:

 pretzelbag, on 01 October 2010 - 12:49 AM, said:

 honketyhank, on 18 September 2010 - 08:46 PM, said:

MacGregor Golf
History -- Catalogs

edited by Jim Kaplan
Vintage Publishing Co.
Rancho Mirage, CA, 92270 (USA)

1-760-416-1115
info.vintagepublishing.com

All the above from my copy of the book. I tried the web address and I did not see how to get a copy. Maybe you need to call. It might well be out of print and unavailable.

I recently bought 2 new copies of the Kaplan book from a seller on eBay,  Frank's Antiques and Auctions(franksauct@aol.com).  Send them a note -- they had a few more in stock, I think.  The publisher in Rancho Mirage cannot seem to be located, from my research, probably out of business.
Here is a rare set made for the Japanese market, very pretty clubs Macgregor Royal Tourney. Shafts and grips are custom Macgregor. Picked them up at a thrift shop years ago, no pitching wedge ,I have been looking for a wedge for 8 years. Probably will never find it!!

Hard to tell from the photos, are those graphite shafts? In any case, just, like, you know, "WOW".


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