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[Golfdoctor]

Which would be the most forgiving MP iron that Mizuno make's?  Thanks

[sheldonjhacker]

The new MP-53 according to the video on Mizuno's website.

[SeptemberSquall]

ditto

[BigPete]

Also according to those who have hit it - a little more forgiving than the two you mentioned - which previously held that honour

[sheldonjhacker]

supposedly the biggest sweetspot ever on an MP iron...I am going to get these or the 800-pros...IMO, the MP53's are going to steal a ton of potential AP2 buyers.

[Dasenergi]

53's for sure. I only have a few rounds with them but my main set are the Ap2's and for me they are more forgiving but I'm still on the honeymoon with them we will see. As far as past Mp's these are by far the most forgiving

[Egan101]

The MP52 is very forgiving for an MP set but the MP53 offers a bit more forgiveness. However, I think the newer MP53 does not offer any advantage over the MP52. For me, the MP52 is the better set.

[driverwedge]

Its a toss-up for me between the 57s and 52s. I haven't hit the 53s yet.

[Jamboy72]

Egan101, on 14 September 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

The MP52 is very forgiving for an MP set but the MP53 offers a bit more forgiveness. However, I think the newer MP53 does not offer any advantage over the MP52. For me, the MP52 is the better set.

I am looking at some of these irons as well...can you help me understand a bit more as to what you are getting at...you state the MP 53 is more forgiving, but does not have any advantages over the 52...isn't this an advantage??  Also, why is the 52 a better set for you overall?  Thanks for your thoughts...

[parpar41]

sheldonjhacker, on 14 September 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

The new MP-53 according to the video on Mizuno's website.

The MP-53 is apparently more forgiving than the MX-300, according to the Mizzy UK website:

Chris Voshall, R&D:  “Our design ethos is about packing as much forgiveness as we can into smaller, more versatile packages.  The MP-53 is an incredible iron – it’s smaller than our previous game improvement iron the MX-300, yet still more forgiving.  

http://golf.mizunoeu...MP_63_and_MP_53

[Golfdoctor]

parpar41, on 14 September 2010 - 09:23 PM, said:

sheldonjhacker, on 14 September 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

The new MP-53 according to the video on Mizuno's website.

The MP-53 is apparently more forgiving than the MX-300, according to the Mizzy UK website:

Chris Voshall, R&D:  "Our design ethos is about packing as much forgiveness as we can into smaller, more versatile packages.  The MP-53 is an incredible iron – it's smaller than our previous game improvement iron the MX-300, yet still more forgiving.  

http://golf.mizunoeu...MP_63_and_MP_53

I had my heart set on MX-300 now that they had drop in price but I'm loving the look of the MP-53 and would only need 4-PW and be able to have them custom made is great. Anyone know what the up charge is for KBS?

Edited by Golfdoctor, 14 September 2010 - 09:40 PM.

[Dasenergi]

Call discount dans

[buster]

I picked them up today and played a few holes with them and hit some shots with them as well (from 100, 110, 125, 145, 160 or so)... then went to the range for 30 minutes... this is the first (maybe second) time in my life that I have bought a new set of irons while I still had a set I really like... so let me just say this: On 11, I had pulled my tee shot a little left and had 9i into the green from an iffy lie. Hit the ball clean but a little high on the face and the ball flew perfectly slightly left of the flag with enough spin so it hit a slight downslope, held it's ground and rolled slowly down the hill to 2 inches. I had heard that the sole design and the cavity had been engineered to create shots like that from lies like that... I was impressed... It will take me a week or two to full assess their capabilities vs the mx-300's.. My first impression is that, contrary to what some have said, they are slightly less forgiving than mx-300s.. drop dead gorgeous...

[thadeuce]

topekareal, on 14 September 2010 - 09:06 PM, said:

Egan101, on 14 September 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

The MP52 is very forgiving for an MP set but the MP53 offers a bit more forgiveness. However, I think the newer MP53 does not offer any advantage over the MP52. For me, the MP52 is the better set.

I am looking at some of these irons as well...can you help me understand a bit more as to what you are getting at...you state the MP 53 is more forgiving, but does not have any advantages over the 52...isn't this an advantage??  Also, why is the 52 a better set for you overall?  Thanks for your thoughts...

Well I'm not speaking FOR him but just because an iron is forgiving doesn't mean that it's better for a better golfer. Too much forgiveness can make it harder to work the ball. Perhaps the 52's are right at the edge of what he likes as far as a blend of workability and forgiveness.

Now speaking personally, I have a similar problem with hybrids. They are easier to hit but I already hit the ball high. Hybrids, while being more forgiving, exacerbate this tendency. So for me, it's easier for me to play a 3i than a hybrid. In this case, as with the other guy, forgiving does not equal better.

[Egan101]

topekareal, on 14 September 2010 - 09:06 PM, said:

Egan101, on 14 September 2010 - 07:52 PM, said:

The MP52 is very forgiving for an MP set but the MP53 offers a bit more forgiveness. However, I think the newer MP53 does not offer any advantage over the MP52. For me, the MP52 is the better set.

I am looking at some of these irons as well...can you help me understand a bit more as to what you are getting at...you state the MP 53 is more forgiving, but does not have any advantages over the 52...isn't this an advantage??  Also, why is the 52 a better set for you overall?  Thanks for your thoughts...

Offering a bit more forgiveness does not necessarily mean a much better iron. I used to play an MP52 set with PX shafts and I have only high praises for it (I now play Srixon I701 Tours with KBS which offers the same as the MP52 except the KBS shafts are easier to load). The reason I said that the MP53 offers no advantage over the MP52 is that they are about the same, except I like the feel better of the MP52 for pured shots. The only difference is that the MP53 has more curve shapes plus that bit of forgiveness. Would you buy a newer car if it offers only softer seat cushions and more curve shapes than an existing model which has about the same features? I guess not. Not to mention that the prices of the MP52 has gone down already.

If you want more forgiveness, then you opt to get the MX300 instead. They are the best deal Mizuno irons right now at $599. They don't lag behind what the MP53 can offer.

Edited by Egan101, 15 September 2010 - 08:33 AM.

[Jamboy72]

Thanks for your thoughts and clarification.  In the end, that is the beauty of this whole deal is we can each buy what we want for whatever reason we deem important...IMO, an iron with as much workability and feel as other MP offerings...but a smaller head than the 300s w/ more forgiveness is an overall better iron...how much better?  That one is in the eye of the beholder...If I want a car with better lines and more comfortable seats, that is my choice...not yours...right?

[newportbeach]

Egan101 thanks for explaining your thoughts a bit more because your original post did not make much sense because to many individuals, myself included, increased forgiveness is often one reason to purchase a new iron.  I hit both the 52s and the 53s again yesterday during another fitting and to me the 53s are better.  They look better, feel great and have more forgiveness.  I don't care for the looks on the 52s.  And yes, many people buy a car because of a newer nicer shape (the BMW 3 series comes to mind where a number of my friends, and myself, like the new design because of its "curves" and purchased it because it looks better than the old one).  Different strokes for different folks.

Edited by newportbeach, 15 September 2010 - 09:41 AM.

[Sabaka]

Golfdoctor, on 14 September 2010 - 09:39 PM, said:

parpar41, on 14 September 2010 - 09:23 PM, said:

sheldonjhacker, on 14 September 2010 - 04:55 PM, said:

The new MP-53 according to the video on Mizuno's website.

The MP-53 is apparently more forgiving than the MX-300, according to the Mizzy UK website:

Chris Voshall, R&D:  "Our design ethos is about packing as much forgiveness as we can into smaller, more versatile packages.  The MP-53 is an incredible iron – it's smaller than our previous game improvement iron the MX-300, yet still more forgiving.  

http://golf.mizunoeu...MP_63_and_MP_53

I had my heart set on MX-300 now that they had drop in price but I'm loving the look of the MP-53 and would only need 4-PW and be able to have them custom made is great. Anyone know what the up charge is for KBS?

The upcharge is $11 per club. Ordered mine yesterday.

[Dasenergi]

Not only are the 53's more forgiving I think they feel better have a better grind  than the 52s and are more pleasing to look down on. I gamed the 52s for 2 years before the ap2s  IMO the 53s are a good upgrade from the 52s. Again just my opinion having actually played both not just hitting them at a shop. But again it's personal preference