


Which Irons Are "Made In USA"?
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 09:02 PM

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 09:05 PM
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:24 PM
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:28 PM
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:40 PM

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:42 PM
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:44 PM
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:49 PM
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#9
Posted 15 August 2010 - 05:22 AM

Titleist 917F 16.5, Aldila Rogue Black 70 stiff
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#10
Posted 15 August 2010 - 07:59 AM

Edited by unixgolf, 15 August 2010 - 08:01 AM.
#11
Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:06 AM
SpinMill75, on 14 August 2010 - 10:28 PM, said:
Irons are still made in Phoenix, the woods and hybrids are Chinese, but assembled in Phoenix. My understanding is that Ping would make the woods and hybrids here, but due to EPA regulations (the titanium) it is just not possible. Imagine that?
It is a good time to be a Chinese manufacturer, as the US government is their best friend as our jobs are taxed and regulated away.
Edited by Michael W, 15 August 2010 - 08:09 AM.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:41 AM
#13
Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:59 AM
cardia10, on 15 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:
I just spoke to Ping around 4 weeks ago just prior to ordering my G15's, the irons are still cast and assembled here, unless something has just recently changed. But, with the new taxes coming on January 1st, I could see them moving all manufacturing and assembly overseas to keep the doors open. I know I am sweating it as are a few of my friends that also own businesses. And my apologies, I don't want to turn this into a political thread, just stating the facts in regards to what is "presently" coming.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 08:59 AM
cardia10, on 15 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:
On the contrary, price will go up and quality will go down. Quality in forging and casting comes from experience and knowhow, both of which are in short supply in the US.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:28 AM

Edited by BirdieBob, 15 August 2010 - 10:31 AM.
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#16
Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:01 AM
#17
Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:07 AM
rwilcox, on 14 August 2010 - 09:02 PM, said:
What about the rest of your life, only buy America then too?
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:22 AM
#19
Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:31 AM
As long as the respective company remains US owned and the product is bought within the US, then you are supporting your economy. If you want to put a company out of business by forcing them to compete on unequal terms with the rest of the world, then that's got to be bad for the economy - does that not make sense?
Companies like Ping are not stupid enough to not move with the times - including mass industry. If they had stuck with their policy of "made in USA" they probably would have slipped into obscurity long ago. They know the value of their customer base and try to deliver the best product they can at the best price - employing several US people along the way. If you really want to buy something made solely in the US at a price point that is ridiculously high and not of any higher quality, then feel free to line the pockets of some niche brand that puts a fraction of the money that the likes of Ping or Callaway etc. put into the US economy.
What's wrong with a US brand that is successful globally and does more than it's fair share in taxes?
Bottom line, use your local proshop and golf store to buy golf equipment and you can't do much more to stimulate the economy - wherever it's made and assembled.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:48 AM

#21
Posted 15 August 2010 - 12:34 PM
Michael W, on 15 August 2010 - 08:59 AM, said:
cardia10, on 15 August 2010 - 08:41 AM, said:
I just spoke to Ping around 4 weeks ago just prior to ordering my G15's, the irons are still cast and assembled here, unless something has just recently changed. But, with the new taxes coming on January 1st, I could see them moving all manufacturing and assembly overseas to keep the doors open. I know I am sweating it as are a few of my friends that also own businesses. And my apologies, I don't want to turn this into a political thread, just stating the facts in regards to what is "presently" coming.
Every G15 or I15 I've seen since they came out says "Head Made in China"
#22
Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:00 PM
cardia10, on 15 August 2010 - 11:22 AM, said:
Unfortunately lots of people have this idea that unions killed manufacturing jobs in America, or that the government "regulated" these jobs out of existence - but this is simply not the case. The fact is that manufacturers moved their operations overseas to take advantage of extremely cheap labor. Workers in some of these "manufacturing paradises" like China work for 57 cents per hour (Mexico, by comparison, pays a whopping average of $2 per hour) and workers in other countries like Thailand and Vietnam work for the equivalent of much less than $1,000 (US) annually. Any jobs in forging or casting metals are difficult, hot and nasty - do you think anyone that performs these skilled jobs deserves to be paid $2.00 an hour or that any American worker would work for that wage? Countries like China and Mexico have almost no environmental regulations or safety regulations - if a worker gets injured or killed on the job, the company has no liability for their injury or death and the companies can dump harmful waste wherever they want without consequence. Like it or not, pure greed - looking for the maximum profit regardless of the cost to the community you live in - is what drove these manufacturing jobs overseas, not unions or the government.
Sorry about the rant, but this is a subject that has bugged me years. These companies want to sell us their over-priced products, but are not willing to locate good paying jobs in the US so that the average person can afford them.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:12 PM
iteachgolf, on 15 August 2010 - 11:48 AM, said:
<br>If this is the case, I DEFINITELY want a set of USA Forged SB-1s!!

#24
Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:27 PM
865golf, on 15 August 2010 - 01:00 PM, said:
cardia10, on 15 August 2010 - 11:22 AM, said:
Unfortunately lots of people have this idea that unions killed manufacturing jobs in America, or that the government "regulated" these jobs out of existence - but this is simply not the case. The fact is that manufacturers moved their operations overseas to take advantage of extremely cheap labor. Workers in some of these "manufacturing paradises" like China work for 57 cents per hour (Mexico, by comparison, pays a whopping average of $2 per hour) and workers in other countries like Thailand and Vietnam work for the equivalent of much less than $1,000 (US) annually. Any jobs in forging or casting metals are difficult, hot and nasty - do you think anyone that performs these skilled jobs deserves to be paid $2.00 an hour or that any American worker would work for that wage? Countries like China and Mexico have almost no environmental regulations or safety regulations - if a worker gets injured or killed on the job, the company has no liability for their injury or death and the companies can dump harmful waste wherever they want without consequence. Like it or not, pure greed - looking for the maximum profit regardless of the cost to the community you live in - is what drove these manufacturing jobs overseas, not unions or the government.
Sorry about the rant, but this is a subject that has bugged me years. These companies want to sell us their over-priced products, but are not willing to locate good paying jobs in the US so that the average person can afford them.
#27
Posted 15 August 2010 - 02:54 PM
Yeah, I hate Wal Mart too! I always support the mom and pops when I can, my family is one so I see the value in service!
Edited by cardia10, 15 August 2010 - 02:56 PM.
#28
Posted 15 August 2010 - 02:56 PM
max power, on 14 August 2010 - 10:42 PM, said:
Incorrect. The last Ping Irons to be made in the U.S. were the G5, I5 and I Wedge.
TaylorMade M1 4wd Ozik Matrix White Tie
TaylorMade M2 (2016) 3,4
Callaway CF16, 5-PW TT XP95
Callaway X Forged 50-12 / 55-15 C grind / 60.9 C grind
TaylorMade Rossa Maranello / Bettinardi BB34
TaylorMade Burner TP LDP / TP5x
Ogio Ozone / Edge
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 03:07 PM
#30
Posted 15 August 2010 - 03:12 PM

Edited by 18th Legion, 15 August 2010 - 03:18 PM.
TaylorMade M1 4wd Ozik Matrix White Tie
TaylorMade M2 (2016) 3,4
Callaway CF16, 5-PW TT XP95
Callaway X Forged 50-12 / 55-15 C grind / 60.9 C grind
TaylorMade Rossa Maranello / Bettinardi BB34
TaylorMade Burner TP LDP / TP5x
Ogio Ozone / Edge
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