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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:31 AM

Can't wait to give them a try.


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Posted 18 August 2010 - 02:09 PM

I was at my local store and they were told by PING that these will be available in October.  Anybody hear the same thing?

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 03:24 PM

I want a full white-dot set with DG R300 shafts!

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 04:18 PM

I don't understand it, Ping Release the G10 in an XG version (I have 3 sets sat on the shelf in my shop) then turn round and re-release the Eye 2 Wedges as XG versions. Why didn't they just re-release the Eye 2s at XG from 1 Iron to LW? So many people love the Eye 2s that a new version would be a seller, didn't we all want a 50th Anniversay Set last year instead of the G10 one we got? Ping could have sold a few sets of these I'm quite sure. Especially if they offered them in that dark black finish like the new K15 irons have.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:04 AM

Oh baby, what a smart marketing move by Ping!


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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:27 AM

Very nice, now do I get the new tour rustique or go with the XG?...hmmmm.
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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:53 AM

They'll sell a million of these.

Will be interesting to see the use on Tour.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 08:59 AM

View Postzzy, on 14 August 2010 - 04:50 PM, said:

I totally agree - now that Ping is moving their all their foundry work to China, why not release a BeCu version??


preferably in a factory belching mega tons of coal soot, and while we are at it lets put some radioactive material in there and really make a hot club. The epa is just a bunch of sissies. The Chinese workers are much tougher than American foundry workers. Bring on the BeCu!

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 03:46 PM

Anyone know what lofts these will come in?  I'm thinking of picking up a few but didn't know if they come in a gap wedge too.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 04:00 PM

View Postnewportbeach, on 19 August 2010 - 03:46 PM, said:

Anyone know what lofts these will come in?  I'm thinking of picking up a few but didn't know if they come in a gap wedge too.

57 and 61


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Posted 19 August 2010 - 05:12 PM

View PostKuboosh, on 19 August 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:

View Postnewportbeach, on 19 August 2010 - 03:46 PM, said:

Anyone know what lofts these will come in?  I'm thinking of picking up a few but didn't know if they come in a gap wedge too.

57 and 61

I was REALLY excited about these until I saw the lofts.

Around 54/55 and 57/58 would have been more up my alley.

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 06:08 PM

The original eye 2 is t conforming it had v grooves if you get the first eye2 pat pending

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 06:45 PM

View PostKuboosh, on 19 August 2010 - 04:00 PM, said:

View Postnewportbeach, on 19 August 2010 - 03:46 PM, said:

Anyone know what lofts these will come in?  I'm thinking of picking up a few but didn't know if they come in a gap wedge too.

57 and 61

56 and 60 actually. No gap wedge announced yet, unfortunately.

John K Solheim Eye2 XG wedge info

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Posted 19 August 2010 - 07:13 PM

Does anyone know the bounce for either club?

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 12:58 PM

View Postmac2lad, on 19 August 2010 - 07:13 PM, said:

Does anyone know the bounce for either club?

This thread:

http://www.golfwrx.c...s/page__st__200

mentions 14 degrees for the SW and 15 degrees for the LW but the lofts are different than some have stated.


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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:10 PM

View PostMB_Viking, on 20 August 2010 - 12:58 PM, said:

View Postmac2lad, on 19 August 2010 - 07:13 PM, said:

Does anyone know the bounce for either club?

This thread:

http://www.golfwrx.c...s/page__st__200

mentions 14 degrees for the SW and 15 degrees for the LW but the lofts are different than some have stated.

Thanks for showing me that link.  I am officially confused.  The graphic that was posted on that thread showed loft at 57.7 and 61.0, but if you watch the video of Solheim, he says 56 and 60...   I guess you can always have it bent to whatever...

So are they officially available in October?  That's confusing too - some say not until Jan 2011, some say in a month...

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:20 PM

The cavity is definitely not the Plus version.  They are the based on the fist ping eye 2's.

Edited by TJCDAS, 20 August 2010 - 01:20 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:25 PM

I'm confused as well.  Hopefully more information is coming soon!

If the 56/60 are accurate, and the bounce is as stated, I should be able to get the wedges easily bent to my preferred 54 and 58.



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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:29 PM

View PostMB_Viking, on 20 August 2010 - 01:25 PM, said:

I'm confused as well.  Hopefully more information is coming soon!

If the 56/60 are accurate, and the bounce is as stated, I should be able to get the wedges easily bent to my preferred 54 and 58.




I am sure you could but remember that by doing so you will also increase the offset some, and these wedges already have quite a bit of offset.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:52 PM

Good point!  Offset is probably the last thing I notice in a clubhead though.

I look forward to trying these out.


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Posted 20 August 2010 - 01:58 PM

 To be honest, Eye 2 wedges don't tend to show any big changes in offset when you start knocking them about; perhaps because of the unusual hosel/heel design and the way that the clubs bend when you start fettling them. The bend point tends to be 'within' the angled gooseneck of the clubhead rather than at the junction of face and hosel as is the case with a traditionally-styled wedge. With an Eye 2, the top part of the hosel seems to remain pretty much where it is in relation to the leading edge, unlike with a traditional wedge design where it moves perceptably - particularly when you really start cranking them by several degrees. 

I've got a couple of Eye 2 wedges that I was given by a friend a few years ago. Both were stock Eye 2 sand wedges, nominally 57-point-something degrees as stock, but both were bent to 52 degrees or so as that's the spec the original owner plays in his middle wedge slot. That's 5 or 6 degrees strong. Bend a Vokey or a 588 6 degrees strong and it'll look ridiculous. My old mate John plays a 56.14 Vokey knocked to 52 degrees as his sand wedge. I bend them for him and every time I do one I remark on how horrible it looks. He likes the offset though, and specifically goes with that set-up over a stock 52 degree club in order to get it. He'd be knackered with a Ping wedge though, as bent-strong Eye 2 wedges hardly look any different at address. I've bent the pair of Eye 2s back to my preferred sand wedge loft of 56 degrees, like the Eye 2 sand wedge I played for years when I was younger, and offset-wise they both look the same as they did before. 

If you markedly change the lofts on an Eye 2 wedge, the bounce angles and the way the soles set up and interact with the turf and sand will certainly change, but with that particular wedge head it's possible to do all sorts of weird and wonderful things to the clubs without the offset issue ever cropping up. That peculiar, proud hosel design and the 'ankle' that it features is the key.  

Edited by mat562, 20 August 2010 - 02:08 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:07 PM

View Postmat562, on 20 August 2010 - 01:58 PM, said:

To be honest, Eye 2 wedges don't tend to show any big changes in offset when you start knocking them about; perhaps because of the unusual hosel/heel design and the way that the clubs bend when you start fettling them. The bend point tends to be 'within' the angled gooseneck of the clubhead rather than at the junction of face and hosel as is the case with a traditionally-styled wedge. With an Eye 2, the top part of the hosel seems to remain pretty much where it is in relation to the leading edge, unlike with a traditional wedge design where it moves perceptably - particularly when you really start cranking them by several degrees.

I've got a couple of Eye 2 wedges that I was given by a friend a few years ago. Both were stock Eye 2 sand wedges, nominally 57-point-something degrees as stock, but both were bent to 52 degrees or so as that's the spec the original owner plays in his middle wedge slot. That's 5 or 6 degrees strong. Bend a Vokey or a 588 6 degrees strong and it'll look ridiculous. Eye 2s hardly look any different. I've bent the pair back to my preferred Eye 2 sand wedge loft of 56 degrees, like the one I played for years when I was younger, and offset-wise they both look the same as they did before.

If you markedly change the lofts on an Eye 2 wedge, the bounce angles and the way the soles set up will certainly change, but with that particular wedge head it's possible to do all sorts of weird and wonderful things to the clubs without the offset issue ever cropping up. That peculiar, proud hosel design and the 'ankle' that it features is the key.

I'm assuming you are talking about bending the stainless steel wedges that 5-7 degrees you are talking about.  If you own BeCu versions you will not get that number of degrees out of them.  When you approach 3-4 degrees you will be sitting with two pieces if you go any further (even with heat).  Not hearsay but anecdotal (4 examples or should I say 8 examples).




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Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:11 PM

Both mine are beryllium models. Both are still in one piece. I wouldn't recommend trying it, and I'd agree that the failure rate is doubtless quite worrying on a pro rata basis, but it's not a given that they'll snap; even when moving them 5 or 6 degrees. Both of mine had been shifted that much by the Ping boys and I moved them another 4 degrees or so back the other way with no dramas.

The pair I got were freebies but were worse than useless for my own bag at 52 degrees, so it was worth the gamble. 

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:19 PM

View Postmat562, on 20 August 2010 - 01:58 PM, said:

To be honest, Eye 2 wedges don't tend to show any big changes in offset when you start knocking them about; perhaps because of the unusual hosel/heel design and the way that the clubs bend when you start fettling them. The bend point tends to be 'within' the angled gooseneck of the clubhead rather than at the junction of face and hosel as is the case with a traditionally-styled wedge. With an Eye 2, the top part of the hosel seems to remain pretty much where it is in relation to the leading edge, unlike with a traditional wedge design where it moves perceptably - particularly when you really start cranking them by several degrees.

I've got a couple of Eye 2 wedges that I was given by a friend a few years ago. Both were stock Eye 2 sand wedges, nominally 57-point-something degrees as stock, but both were bent to 52 degrees or so as that's the spec the original owner plays in his middle wedge slot. That's 5 or 6 degrees strong. Bend a Vokey or a 588 6 degrees strong and it'll look ridiculous. My old mate John plays a 56.14 Vokey knocked to 52 degrees as his sand wedge. I bend them for him and every time I do one I remark on how horrible it looks. He likes the offset though, and specifically goes with that set-up over a stock 52 degree club in order to get it. He'd be knackered with a Ping wedge though, as bent-strong Eye 2 wedges hardly look any different at address. I've bent the pair of Eye 2s back to my preferred sand wedge loft of 56 degrees, like the Eye 2 sand wedge I played for years when I was younger, and offset-wise they both look the same as they did before.

If you markedly change the lofts on an Eye 2 wedge, the bounce angles and the way the soles set up and interact with the turf and sand will certainly change, but with that particular wedge head it's possible to do all sorts of weird and wonderful things to the clubs without the offset issue ever cropping up. That peculiar, proud hosel design and the 'ankle' that it features is the key.  

Interesting, maybe I will check into one then, I wouldn't mind a 54* wedge but one of the beautiful parts about those wedges is the sole design and if bending it messed with the turf interaction I probably would not be happy with them.  I am pretty picky about my wedges and having a versitile sole grind while still having a fair amount of bounce is key for me.  I really like my Vokey 58*.12  with the M grind, to me that is ideal wedge set up.  However for more of a gap wedge that I would usually just use on full swings it would probably have no impact on my game.
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Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:23 PM

View Postmat562, on 20 August 2010 - 02:11 PM, said:

Both mine are beryllium models. Both are still in one piece. I wouldn't recommend trying it, and I'd agree that the failure rate is doubtless quite worrying on a pro rata basis, but it's not a given that they'll snap; even when moving them 5 or 6 degrees. Both of mine had been shifted that much by the Ping boys and I moved them another 4 degrees or so back the other way with no dramas.

The pair I got were freebies but were worse than useless for my own bag at 52 degrees, so it was worth the gamble.


I have seen Ping Eye's bent 4* no problem, the BeCu's are not as brittle as most think, however I did try to bend a Cleveland 588 BeCu 56* wedge that I owned and it snapped without puttng hardly any pressure on it at all.  Ping really made a quality product with these clubs, I think the heat treating process they used really made them better in this regard, whereas others used BeCu for the looks but the quality was not there.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:36 PM

I agree with you. Ping's beryllium castings seem pretty malleable - probably down to the hosel design as much as the heat treatment - whilst other OEMs' beryllium clubs weren't as readily adjustable. I remember clunking a friend's Ram wedge a few years ago after he asked me to knock it a few degrees strong. I did tell him early on that it was a bit of a dodgy do, but be gave me the nod. A couple of minutes later I gave him two bits of metal. I've also seen a local pro snap a beryllium 588 too; again without going mad and trying to bend it a huge amount. Presumably there are different alloys of beryllium copper with varying amounts of each element in them.

The beryllium Pings I've adjusted (as well as those two wedges I've got a 1-SW set of mid '80s copper Eye 2s, an Eye 2+ 1 iron that's currently a bit part player in my bag and my old faithful L wedge) have all been fettled at various times without any dramas - including some heavy duty adjustment in the case of those freebie sand wedges.

The above poster is right though. Contrary to the popular belief that beryllium copper is like butter ('they use it to make springs' is a common proof of its supposed malleability) it's actually quite a hard metal and, as anyone who's bent BeCu castings will know, it takes some effort to bend the stuff with the bar. A set of copper Pings typically doesn't get knocked very far out of kilter either, even after years of use and even when struck from driving range mats. Compare that with some sets of carbon steel forgings, some of which need to be in for adjustments every few months (or even weeks) if they're hitting a hard surface on a regular basis.

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Posted 20 August 2010 - 02:49 PM

These will match nicely with my I5s...can't wait until they are released.

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 03:22 PM

I can still order ping eye2's ping zings from ping they are in the back of the trade/cost price list.

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Posted 28 August 2010 - 03:21 PM

No you need to go back to 1982-1984     They have v grooves and   legal.                            

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View Postshoey98, on 14 August 2010 - 01:28 PM, said:

the original eye 2 is not conforming but was able to be used becasue of a loopole and a lawsuit. It cant be used as is anymore if im not mistaken

The original eye 2 is conforming it had V grooves 1982-1984 pat pending.


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Posted 28 August 2010 - 03:25 PM

They are  legal v grooves from 1982-1984 you are thinking off the u groove later model from 1985 on - I use them i am a pro and have used them all my life from 1982 until now.

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