


True Temper Dynamic Gold R500
#1
Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:35 PM

#2
Posted 16 April 2010 - 06:56 PM
#3
Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:10 PM
#4
Posted 16 April 2010 - 07:46 PM
#5
Posted 22 October 2010 - 07:40 PM

#6
Posted 22 October 2010 - 10:11 PM
spilbellman, on 22 October 2010 - 07:40 PM, said:
Nspiel58, on 16 April 2010 - 07:46 PM, said:
When True Temper came out with the "Gold" series, I managed to get through to their R & D department. I believe that the man's name was Bob Bush, who may have headed the project. What he told me was this: True Temper was trying to compete with the frequency matched Rifles by Brunswick, and get into the F.M. Market. TT figured out that the heavier the shaft, the stiffer the shaft. The result was 5 different weights in each flex area, but their problem was that there was overlapping. IE an S500 was basically the same as an X300. An S100 was the same as an R300.
That's incorrect. An S500 would not be close to an X300 in it's overall flex/bend profile. Neither is the currently available S400 anywhere close to the same flex as the X100.
An S400 on a frequency analyzer, cycles at 1-3 cycles stiffer than an S300. This is a very small difference in flex and doesn't bring it close to an X100.
#7
Posted 23 October 2010 - 09:10 AM
Cwebb, on 22 October 2010 - 10:11 PM, said:
spilbellman, on 22 October 2010 - 07:40 PM, said:
Nspiel58, on 16 April 2010 - 07:46 PM, said:
When True Temper came out with the "Gold" series, I managed to get through to their R & D department. I believe that the man's name was Bob Bush, who may have headed the project. What he told me was this: True Temper was trying to compete with the frequency matched Rifles by Brunswick, and get into the F.M. Market. TT figured out that the heavier the shaft, the stiffer the shaft. The result was 5 different weights in each flex area, but their problem was that there was overlapping. IE an S500 was basically the same as an X300. An S100 was the same as an R300.
That's incorrect. An S500 would not be close to an X300 in it's overall flex/bend profile. Neither is the currently available S400 anywhere close to the same flex as the X100.
An S400 on a frequency analyzer, cycles at 1-3 cycles stiffer than an S300. This is a very small difference in flex and doesn't bring it close to an X100.
CWebb It has been a while since that conversation with TT. My memory is pretty good, but not infallible. You have piqued my curiosity and I will check it out. I didn't know that TT still offered the S400. I did like that shaft.
anyway, I have never looked at this forum on Classics before two days ago and I am thrilled that so many still have an interest.
Bill
#8
Posted 02 November 2010 - 03:58 PM
So I'd suspect that the R500 shaft the OP found plays to an S100 stiffness, but is heavier.
Who know? Maybe someone will chime in with a scan of a page out of that old Matby catalog I'm thinking of.
#9
Posted 08 November 2010 - 05:30 PM
S-500 was heavier but just a touch softer than X-100 back then.
A great shaft. i've still got 3 or 4 sets in clubs around here.
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#10
Posted 08 November 2010 - 11:55 PM

#11
Posted 09 November 2010 - 12:02 AM
spilbellman, on 22 October 2010 - 07:40 PM, said:
Nspiel58, on 16 April 2010 - 07:46 PM, said:
When True Temper came out with the "Gold" series, I managed to get through to their R & D department. I believe that the man's name was Bob Bush, who may have headed the project. What he told me was this: True Temper was trying to compete with the frequency matched Rifles by Brunswick, and get into the F.M. Market. TT figured out that the heavier the shaft, the stiffer the shaft. The result was 5 different weights in each flex area, but their problem was that there was overlapping. IE an S500 was basically the same as an X300. An S100 was the same as an R300.
Now consider this: if you have two shafts of equal length, step-downs, material, and one shaft measures stiff on the frequency meter and one is regular,
what is the reason? It can only be the weight. If one shaft is heavier than the other shaft, then there is only one other variable as I see it. the wall of the shaft has to be thicker. If the wall is thicker, then the the shaft will be stiffer. How many times have we pulled 14 shafts out of a box and found through trial and error, weighing, checking the frequency, have we come out with different results?
Bill
Hey Bill: the other variable that affects overall shaft weight is the number of welds along the length of the shaft: more welds = heavier weight. All DG shafts have the same thickness in the wall of the shaft, but there is a surprising variation in the overall weight where a shaft has many more welds than another in the same flex group.
#12
Posted 09 November 2010 - 08:37 AM
It's mainly a weight thing. I've played X-100, X-200, and X-300 shafts. No difference in performance.
The exception is the DG Tour (X7) which has thicker steps than a normal X-100 and a .615" butt. The butt and steps create a slightly hotter trajectory with less spin than X-100.
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#13
Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:05 AM
T500 is Weak 'X', Standard "S", Strong "T" ("Note: T and R flex are the same flex.")
#14
Posted 10 December 2012 - 05:16 AM
Back then I think that we generally reckoned that the only difference between an R300 and R400 was the shaft band.
#15
Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:50 AM

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#16
Posted 11 December 2012 - 12:06 PM
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