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10 Finger Grip (Baseball) vs Interlocking\Overlapping


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#1 Garrett77

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 12:30 PM

Well heres the story, I'm currently a junior golfer with a 10 finger grip or a baseball grip. I've had this grip for just about my whole golfing career, and I really haven't put to much thought into it except for these last couple years. I've been discussing and going over the pros and cons of this with my father, my older brother, and various instructors. Most of the feedback has been good towards the 10 finger grip, my father even had a chance to speak with Scott Peircys( one of the PGA tour pros using the 10 finger grip) teacher saying that if i've been using it, theres no reason to stop, many people have made it work and have played great golf.

Even after hearing these things I still think about it, will the grip hold up over the years especially if i plan to play at the higher levels of golf, will it be as consistent as the interlocking\overlap grip. But I guess thats what brings me here to golfWRX, I really just wanted to hear some more thoughts and opinions on each one of these grips, I really do appreciate your time everyone, thanks.


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- High School Golfer, 3 handicap (getting lower :good:), Junior in HS at 17 years of age.

Edited by Garrett77, 23 February 2010 - 12:31 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:37 PM

I play the baseball grip out of necessity.  a few years ago i broke a bone in my little finger and everytime i try to do an overlap, its very uncomfortable.  i've heard that i may be losing some of the feel by not overlapping or inter-locking and i don;t doubt it.  The real test is, do you feel comfortable and do you like it?  if the answer is yes, then go for it, although it doesn't hurt getting some opinions.  good luck.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:47 PM

I play it; played when i was in high school, when i was in college and still play it now as a teaching pro. I have small hands with fat fingers so it never felt comfortable to interlock and overlap sometimes my index finger would slip off plus I was playing baseball at the time and changing grips just felt weird. Me as a teacher, personally, dont care how you hold the club as long as the placement is correct in you hands. Also I have taken lessons from 5 different ppl and not one has ask me to change from 10 finger. Doesnt mean I dont dabble in it everyonce in a while. But golf is all about being comfortable with your game and its starts when the club isnt moving. And the club isnt moving when you are getting your grip. Do add another variable to a game that has hundreds of them everytime you swing the club

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:47 PM

I was using the baseball grip up until last year (junior year of high school). I was encouraged to switch to interlock by my coach and have about as much success with that as I did with the 10 finger. I'm not really biased towards either one and am considering going back to baseball grip my senior year...we'll just have to see which is more comfortable -- but I did shoot lower scores with the interlocking.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:59 PM

makes it tougher to use your hands as a unit but works well for people with small weaker hands.  I played that way for years but once I got serious about golf switched.  it will feel weird for awhile to switch but if you sre in highschool then you have plenty of time to beat balls so it will feel fine after a couple of days.

Edited by rockwallraider, 23 February 2010 - 01:59 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:02 PM

I also will add that I am 34 and had never gripped the club properly until I met Slicefixer.  He is super anal about grip and even he could show me ( me being a jackass that cannot look at someones grip and copy it just by looking ).  amazing to me that I was able to shoot some of the scores I did with such a crappy grip but that is why I could shoot 75 one day and shoot 87 the next.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:07 PM

I appreciate all the advice thus far everyone. Yes the grip does feel good, but that probably has alot to do with the fact I've been using it for a while. A few weeks ago, I tried the interlocking grip for roughly 2 weeks, swing felt decent, but i do have problems with the right hand pinky. I think some of it has to do with a boxers fracture I had in that area a year ago. But regardless my biggest thing is, can the 10 finger grip be as consistent as the interlocking\overlap. If anyone has any pga pros names off the top of there head that have had success with the grip, I'd appreciate some names so I could look them up.

Anways, I really appreciate all the replies so far, thanks.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:30 PM

bob estes used it for awhile but has since gone back to traditional

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:09 PM

If your grip is sound,  I don't care which way you hold it.  In my  mind it is more importand to have a neutral grip with both hands working together than anything else.  So as long as the two "v's" created by your thumb and index finger are pointed around your right shoulder/collarbone go for it.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:46 AM

It is not importand HOW, HOW MANY that counts.


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Posted 25 February 2010 - 11:09 PM

Having recently changed my grip from interlocking to overlapping, I can tell you about my experience of what it was like to change grips.  I had used interlocking since I started playing golf and never really thought about how I put my hands on the golf club (I know, stupid).  Either way, took some lessons last year, played some of my best golf but was still lacking consistency - more importantly, developed a nasty case of the hooks with my driver and woods.  After some research and more lessons, my golf pro and I changed my grip to a much weaker one, and I decided to change to an overlapping grip.  I changed because I wanted to completely get away from what I was used to (which was wrong for several reasons, not saying interlocking or overlapping is better or worse), and overlapping is what 90% of the pga pros use so why not do what the majority does.  Like you said, at first the grip change felt very weird, but as I hit more balls and had a few more practice sessions with my teacher I started to feel like I was more consistently making good contact, and hitting down on the ball better.  I also practiced my new grip while watching tv, every day for weeks, annoying everyone in the house in the process.

I guess where I'm heading is that the grip change was good for me because I didn't have a very good grip to begin with - it was waaaay too strong and caused some inconsistencies that I had to fix through timing.  You're a 3 handicap, so clearly there is a lot more right with your grip than there was with mine.  If your grip is working for you, I wouldn't necessarily change it - however, if you decide to change your grip, I recommend practicing it every day in your spare time, just by picking up the club while watching tv even, and that will make the transition to whatever grip you choose easier.  Good luck!

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 11:46 PM

10 finger grip here. I've tried to switch away from it before but I always go back.
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Posted 26 February 2010 - 08:19 AM

Hah!  I was just going to post this question as I play a 10 finger grip.  Everyone sees me as some sort of amomoly or something.  Including some local pros I play with!  I was always curious if I was the last golfer using this grip.  Glad I'm not.  I simply cannot grip it any other way now... Tried overlap, tried interlock... Nope... No joy.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:36 AM

You have to live with the results, so no one can tell you what is right for you.

Bob Rosburg, Moe Norman, and others have used the 10 finger grip.  Steve Jones used a reverse overlap, and Furyk uses a double overlap.  You even have the odd guy here and there (like Josh Broadway) with a left hand low grip for full swings.

The far and away most consistent golfer I know has a home made swing and 10 finger grip.  I have played with him more than 50 times and he was between 75 and 88 every single time with the most consistent shot pattern and ball striking that I have witnessed.

If anything, I think a 10 finger grip would more likely affect how good you can get and not necessarily how consistent you can be.

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 11:12 AM

I have tried overlap, reverse overlap, interlock, and now use the 10 finger because of a finger injury and advice from my Orthopedic Surgeon.

I'm not using it because of hand weakness, as my hands and wrists are very strong, the product of work and a lifetime of doing wrist curls with a 50 lb. dumbell.

At first I couldn't get used to the feel, but now actually believe it has added distance for me on full shots.

The biggest problem to overcome on full shots was hooking a lot of shots, but adjusting hand positions and bending my clubs 1/2-1* flatter has corrected this. One thing I do better with the 10 finger, for some reason, is maintain my left hand grip pressure throughout. I always have had a habit of letting the club turn in transition because of left hand loosening.

Around the green I still use the overlap, but am experimenting with the 10 finger. It does allow more wrist action on shots which require it.(I beleieve that Phil Rodgers may teach a 10 finger grip for his style of flop shots)

Overall, I'd say you must make some adjustments if switching to 10 finger, but once you figure them out, it's as good as any grip for me.I do believe that I have more feel for the clubhead all the way thru the swing and thru impact. It's just a different feel---more into the right hand--naturally.

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Edited by Texsport, 26 February 2010 - 11:18 AM.


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Posted 26 February 2010 - 02:27 PM

Thanks everyone, I appreciate the time and effort you guys put into these posts. As far as i stand right now, I believe I'll just stick with the 10 finger grip, and hopefully keep on having some success. Once again, thanks everyone.


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:14 PM

I have been toying with the idea of the ten finger grip. Currently I have my left hand extended beyond the butt handle of the club and my right pinky finger overlapping my left hand. That leaves me with 8 fingers on the club. The arguments I've read in favor of the standard overlapping grip ( which mine is not)  usually refer to having the hands act as a unit. I  disagree with that. My feeling is that if you tend to be the kind of golfer that has or is going to have your hands in conflict during the swing, it doesn't matter what grip you use. I think it takes the same skill and mentality to keep your hands acting as one unit if it's overlapped, interlocked or ten finger. If you use the ten finger grip, look at it as an advantage because you would never be able to hit or control a baseball bat effectively with an overlapping grip or interlocking grip."They always refer to the baseball grip for golf but never the golfers grips for baseball..Why?   Would it have made Ted Williams a better hitter?.   FOOOOOORE at Fenway Park.?  Really?

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:48 PM

It really shouldn't be called baseball grip it's just like Vardon, only pinky is on the shaft.
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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:24 PM

I'm 57 and started playing 49 years ago.  I used the 10 finger for almost all of that time but at the urging of my teacher switched to the overlap.  I never, in 18 months of using the overlap, hit the ball as well as I did with the 10 finger.  I'm glad that I'm back.  Bottom line, if it works for you don't change what you're doing.

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 05:34 PM

Always used 10 fingered grip and played off scratch from 95-02, basically play what works and feels right. Never let anybody bully you into doing something that feels wrong.....there's no 'right' or 'wrong' grip


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 06:30 PM

After 15 years, I switched from overlap to interlocking about a month ago.  I had been pulling my irons due too strong right hand.  Interlock takes my right hand out of its overcontrolling grip and emphasise s left hand control.  I am right handed.  Switch was fairly easy to stay with.  Good luck.
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Posted 18 January 2015 - 06:52 PM

Speaking from experience and knowledge you have to try for yourself and compare the difference in what each grip does in terms of feel and ball flight.  I can use multiple grips at any time and so can you if you give each some time and pay attention to how they affect your body and flight of the ball.  There is no one way or the correct pga way.  The only way is what works best for you.  Only time and experimentation over a fair amount of  play will dictate your findings.

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 07:51 PM

I have always used the 10 finger grip...it just feels relaxed and tension free..tried the others and I lost some confidence maybe...

I just couldn't feel the club...like others said,play what works for you.

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 10:06 AM

I use a Vardon grip and always have. If it is belting it down with rain and the club slips I use an interlock and a clean handkerchief. I don't use a glove.

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 12:49 PM

not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity.  What grip was widely used pre Vardon?

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:22 PM

 Dinosaur, on 19 January 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity.  What grip was widely used pre Vardon?

Great question. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport.

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:26 PM

 HawkeyeDan, on 19 January 2015 - 09:22 PM, said:

 Dinosaur, on 19 January 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity.  What grip was widely used pre Vardon?

Great question. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport.

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:39 PM

 Dinosaur, on 19 January 2015 - 09:26 PM, said:

 HawkeyeDan, on 19 January 2015 - 09:22 PM, said:

 Dinosaur, on 19 January 2015 - 12:49 PM, said:

not of particular importance, but mostly a curiosity.  What grip was widely used pre Vardon?

Great question. Also wonder when thumbs started extending down the shaft instead of wrapping around. Thumbs wrap for any other two-handed sport.

Billiards?

Had more hockey, baseball and lacrosse in mind but I suppose you are right.




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