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#1 ngates

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:44 PM

At age 76 and with arthritis I seem to have difficulty turning over my 460cc driver.  Are 400cc drivers still available and what company makes them?  Am I on the right tract or should I just use my 3 wood as a driver?  Thanks.  Norm


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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:51 PM

There are thousands on the used market, for nearly pennies on the dollar at this point.

If you don't mind a used club, you can pick up some exceptional drivers for under $100--sometimes even under $50--that are grrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat equipment.
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Posted 29 January 2010 - 06:53 PM

2010 Nike Vr Tour.  No brainer.  I'm 99% sure its a 400CC said.

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Posted 29 January 2010 - 11:54 PM

View Postngates, on 29 January 2010 - 06:44 PM, said:

At age 76 and with arthritis I seem to have difficulty turning over my 460cc driver.  Are 400cc drivers still available and what company makes them?  Am I on the right tract or should I just use my 3 wood as a driver?  Thanks.  Norm


Didn't Nike have an older Lucky 13* driver that was around 400 cc?  Taylor Made R7 Quad was another 400 cc head, heck I still play mine some.

All kinds of 400 cc heads that are good, and mostly for under $100.

Good Luck.


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Posted 30 January 2010 - 02:34 AM

TaylorMade R510 TP.

390cc.  A benchmark driver.   You can buy them off eBay for under $70 if you watch closely.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 03:01 AM

View Postkekoa, on 29 January 2010 - 06:53 PM, said:

2010 Nike Vr Tour.  No brainer.  I'm 99% sure its a 400CC said.

Sorry, but Vr tour is 440cc.  There may be a limited edition or an actual tour issue model that is 400cc, but i'm just stating specs of the retail model per Nike's website.
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Posted 30 January 2010 - 03:29 AM

View PostDL5treez, on 30 January 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:

TaylorMade R510 TP.

390cc.  A benchmark driver.   You can buy them off eBay for under $70 if you watch closely.


To remind you that ngates is 76 years old, and the highest loft that R510 TP's came were 10.5 degrees of loft, and deep faced drivers equal low ballers.  


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Posted 30 January 2010 - 10:44 AM

Don't be afraid of the "older" drivers with the "smaller" heads. I have a 983E that is every bit as long as my Ping Rapture ... "if" I hit it in the center of the clubface. The newer heads, imo, just help with forgiveness ... not necessarily length.

And FWIW, most courses that you are going to play (considering your age) are not going to be that long from the proper tees. Nothing wrong with hitting a 3W off the tee. Our course is not short by any means, and I hit driver on 3 holes.

Why don't you take the driver completely out of the bag for a few rounds? I would wager that if you hit the 3W smoothly (and don't try to kill it because you don't have the driver) your score probably won't suffer much ... it at all.

Fairways & greens ... no matter what it takes. :ok:

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:11 AM

Look for a 400cc Taylormade R580 on ebay.  Those were made in lofts up to 12*.  Not sure you will find one in 12* there, but even the 10.5* models launch the ball pretty high. It was the model within the R500 series designed for higher handicappers and has the distictive backswing path alignment marks on the crown.

The early models of the R580 were non-conforming, (no scoring markes in the center of the clubface), but most of the ones you see on ebay are conforming models.  Nobody will notice if you are playing a non-conforming model anyway and a little extra "trampoline effect" off the face is not a bad thing at age 76.

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:11 AM

Cleveland Launcher 400 is a beast!
I still have mine and play it quite often.


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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:03 PM

Nike Dymo 380 Tour Proto... If you can get ahold of one..

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Posted 30 January 2010 - 11:24 PM

View Postleftypga, on 30 January 2010 - 03:01 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 29 January 2010 - 06:53 PM, said:

2010 Nike Vr Tour. No brainer. I'm 99% sure its a 400CC said.

Sorry, but Vr tour is 440cc. There may be a limited edition or an actual tour issue model that is 400cc, but i'm just stating specs of the retail model per Nike's website.

Sorry, the 440cc is the 8.5* and 9.5* Str8-Fit version, 460cc for the 10.5* and 11.5*.

The VR Tour is believed to be 400cc, several sites confirm that. But I also found sites confrming the VR Tour is 420cc.

Nikegolf.com doesn't state the size for the VR Tour, only the STR8-Fit.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:12 AM

View PostMrParr1Noid, on 30 January 2010 - 03:29 AM, said:

View PostDL5treez, on 30 January 2010 - 02:34 AM, said:

TaylorMade R510 TP.

390cc.  A benchmark driver.   You can buy them off eBay for under $70 if you watch closely.


To remind you that ngates is 76 years old, and the highest loft that R510 TP's came were 10.5 degrees of loft, and deep faced drivers equal low ballers.
You are right, I stand corrected.

There are many other models though on eBay for the same price, actually much less usually, that would fit the bill quite nicely.
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 06:09 AM

Muira drivers are 390cc

Only problem is if you can find a dealer in your area.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:35 AM

This topic of 400 cc drivers has struck a cord in me.  For the past 3 years, I've gone or at least have tried to, give trial to the newer 450 cc 460 cc drivers, and with little success.  

Now this lack of success with the newer larger headed drivers may be age related, who knows but I'm having a most difficult time turning the larger heads over.Posted Image  Funny thing is, when I revert to my older R7 Quad tour, which by the way is 1 degree open, I still manage a nice slight draw with that.

I've just recently acquired the Cleveland DST Tour, 430 cc I believe, and this setup seems to hide the somewhat larger head well.
I've hit but a few drives so far (in the snow, cold) but this setup seems to be the right step up from my currant R7 Quad tour setup.  Hopefully I'm on to something, and on to my new, bestest  upgraded driver.Posted Image

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:43 AM

The TM R7 comes in a 425, and it has those weight ports you can play with to help you get the head around easier. Also, maybe a draw biased driver wil do the trick.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 11:51 AM

View PostSid Vicious, on 31 January 2010 - 11:43 AM, said:

The TM R7 comes in a 425, and it has those weight ports you can play with to help you get the head around easier. Also, maybe a draw biased driver wil do the trick.

Please re read my post above, especially the part about my older R7 Quad tour which just so happens to be 1 degree open, and I draw that.

Thank You

p.s.  The Cleveland DST Tour is 2 degrees open, and the few times I've demo'd this?  It has turned over just fine.Posted Image Too cold here to tell how far it's going though.Posted Image
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Posted 31 January 2010 - 12:48 PM

Thanks to all for the helpful comments.  I have found a Cleveland launcher 400 DX on ebay.  Unfortunately, it has a stiff shaft.  If I buy the club will there be any problem re-shafting this club.  My pro once said that he couldn't re-shaft a Taylor Made driver for some reason I don't remember.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 01:23 PM

Hi Norm, If you do a search on the Bay for 12* Senior Driver quite a few come up for consideration.  You'd just have to check out the head sizes.

If it was me, I'd get something in a senior flex right off the bat, rather than have to re-shaft something.

I was really looking for one of those older Founders Club drivers in 12 degree with senior shaft, but haven't seen one yet.  

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Posted 04 March 2011 - 10:53 PM

Last week I won a Titleist 975D for $0.99 on Ebay, and a Titleist 975J for $2.26...both drivers, with original headcovers, arrived on my doorstep for less than $33.00.  The 975D is 260 cc, and the 975J is 20% larger, at 312 cc.

I received yesterday a new Integra SoooLong Driver head, 400 cc, 12 degrees loft, delivered for $51.45.  Now I have to decide on a shaft.

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Posted 25 October 2011 - 02:01 PM

SMT has the Spectrum (391cc) and Nemesis (405cc) heads, which are often available on EBay in various lofts.  And older OEM equipment can be had for a song -- the smaller, older Titleists are always available.  You might be able to score some Wilson Fat Shafts as well.
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Posted 13 November 2011 - 10:57 PM

How about trying out this puppy?  For the price it'd be tough to call it a bad experiment...

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:18 PM

I'm not kidding, call Mike Tait at SMT, tell him about your needs and he'll have what you need at a decent price.  I'm 65, just got a SMT Spectrum from Mike and bust it better than ever.

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Posted 13 November 2011 - 11:21 PM

How about a Yonex Ezone Type 380 or even a Type 420? I have 2 380's and absolutely love them!

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Posted 15 December 2011 - 11:43 PM

The blue 405cc SMT Nemesis or its smaller, older sib, the grey/silver 370cc Nemesis. Ball go far. CHEAP on fleabay.


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