Dariusz J., on Dec 18 2009, 06:21 PM, said:
keygolf, on Dec 18 2009, 06:59 PM, said:
You're onto important issues. Agree that it doesn't takes zillions - just however many it takes for you or me to build a skill and from that store a habit, which in turn requires knowing how habits are built.
And why should we BUILD HABITS instead create scenarios that are natural for our subconscious minds ? Just examine the car on ice analogy - those who trust subconscious mind are not likely to crash that often as those who want to "steer" it ?
Your comment about conscious thought is also "right on" but it needs the addition of how to keep the non-conscious still as well, since that's 97% of the deal. Unless all that can be implemented, it may indeed take trillions of repetitions, and those will likely occur without knowing if they are duplicates or not, and repetition that does not duplicate is useless.
Why 97 % ? Have you run a scientific researches ? Just asking, while agreeing totally to your point here.
Bottom line is that it is not so much which is the easiest method to learn, although that's part of the equation. It's knowing how to build in what you are trying to learn, since no method will work very well or very soon without that knowledge.
What fools players is that they practice till they are blue in the face and still can't get it to the course with sufficiently reliable consistency.
That's the point. And this is the best real verification for each swing theory.
A very good post, overally. Seems you have something serious to contribute here. I am all ears.
I'd like to have time to wade back through 30 years of research that I was able to uncover and provide that for you, but best case is to do an internet search yourself. You will find everything from no numbers to the more frequent 97-98% non-conscious figure and I recently saw one that said 99%, which may or may not be the case. Better to notice all the work done on the relationship between the conscious and non-conscious activity.
I did find this in a recent article that was saved on my desktop: "...according to Emmanuel Donchin, director of the Laboratory for Cognitive Psychophysiology at the University of Illinois, “As much as 99 percent of cognitive activity may be non-conscious.”
I guess I'm not sure what you are looking for with your question:
"And why should we BUILD HABITS instead create scenarios that are natural for our subconscious minds ? Just examine the car on ice analogy - those who trust subconscious mind are not likely to crash that often as those who want to "steer" it?"
Since all our motions that have become habits are stored in the non conscious, I think you are suggesting that envisioning what you want to do is all that is necessary and that's likley how it works - IF you have the habits stored. If there are no habits for what you are "creating a scenario for," what you will get is whatever the non conscious decides to do , like hit it out of bounds.
My point was that unless practice is organized for the purpose of building habits, and unless the process used to do that does, in fact, deliver habits, players will keep wondering why they cannot get it to the course.
Edited by keygolf, 18 December 2009 - 11:04 PM.