[Englishman]

I've just bought an SG5 (in England) and the Skycaddie rep said that the over view and green contours update is imminent - has anyone heard anything else? Looking at old posts, this update was due last January or something daft. Is it coming yet, for real or is this vapourware?

Mark

[oJAKo]

Most likely never skycaddie never gives us any info about it and when asked they give basic bs answers, it was supposed to be out in April then they were supposed to have a beta test version on July 1 which never happened then we heard Sep 15 and again it wasn't released and thats the last anyone has heard.

[Englishman]

Super. Thanks for the reply. I guess I should have gone for the Sonnocaddie V300 which I originally wanted after all.
Damn our club pro and his persuasive ways!

Mark.

[golf_fanatik]

oJAKo, on Oct 12 2009, 09:19 AM, said:

Most likely never skycaddie never gives us any info about it and when asked they give basic bs answers, it was supposed to be out in April then they were supposed to have a beta test version on July 1 which never happened then we heard Sep 15 and again it wasn't released and thats the last anyone has heard.

Are you sure the Beta Testing in July didn't happen? Some people in this forum were invited to test it.. and I'm not sure about the April deadline either.. how would they release it before testing it?

[oJAKo]

If you go back to the org post about it, it was shown at the PGA show and people were told when it was going to come out http://www.golfwrx.c...addie+birds+eye now here we are 7 months later and there is still no def answer to when it is. As far as the beta testing if somebody on this site has it please say so.

[ronbo]

Check the Skygolf web site tomorrow!
Just a guess.....

[slightdraw]

i think it will come out at half past never

(unfortunately)

seriously though...its a shame when companies publicly talk about when their updates will be released. skycaddie and upro get big thumbs-down for claiming relatively large releases that were expected to be released about a year ago. tsk tsk. come on guys, if you dont have a real release date, just say so.

makes me wonder if this is going to be one of the drivers for people moving to apps with faster upgrade cycles, such as those for the iphone.

[oJAKo]

ronbo, on Oct 12 2009, 08:34 PM, said:

Check the Skygolf web site tomorrow!
Just a guess.....

Nothing new on there site.. Do you know something?

[ronbo]

Check out a course and see the icons, no more stars.... Beta Test is in place. not many courses as of today. I guess more to come.

[TM_HOYER]

Sync and ye shall receive!!!!!

[dekelsey61]

Got The update!!!! It is 3.88 version. Thanks for the heads up.
Dan

[rickpal14]

Just downloaded the update and it is now listed on their website..... Traveling to SC on biz next week...can't wait to try it out!!!

[rickpal14]

......and my local muni course is set up for IntelliGreenPro!!! Sweeeeeet!!!!!!!!!!!!

[golf_fanatik]

What is the difference between QuickVue and HoleVue as described in the link below?

Looks like QuickVue is available in most/all courses mapped but HoleVue will follow later.. Good to see they are following through on the IntelligreenPro as well!

http://www.skygolf.c...alholeinfo.aspx

[PaulN64007]

HoleVue shows an overhead view of the hole. They map the course from the ground and using aerial images to create the image. http://www.skygolf.c...oleVueInfo.aspx QuickVue just shows a virtual preview of the safest path from the tee to green.

[mojo_13]

Can someone link me to the download? Is this the expansion pack that is the extra $19.95 or is it something else? I have looked but can't seem to find the download. Thanks

Edit: If I would just have read that I needed to sync it I wouldn't have asked a dumb question lol. Thanks for the heads up guys, can't wait to try it out.

[oJAKo]

Has anyone found any courses with the hole view and not just the quick view?

[PaulN64007]

Yeah. Check out the tpc at sawgrass and pebble beach.

[Pepperturbo]

Thanks guy's...

I just visited Skycaddie to check and see they're offing new course services. For 19.95 upgraded to the new options it downloaded new system software and the services you all are talking about. There are a few courses with the beta services in each of the areas I travel to so I'll be using it this wkend.

[whsbuss]

Had to do the manual update but its now loaded. Its about time.

[RichB]

OK. I played today with QuickVue.
Totally useless (to me), since you can't measure anything.
Has anybody played with HoleVue? Can you measure anything?
Does it show yardages? I demoed Pebble, and saw no yardages on the overview...
not sure if it just doesn't work in the demo, or if its just not there.

And I'm not sure that QuickVue doesn't make our skycaddies illegal.

Quote

SkyCaddie’s exclusive QuickVue™ provides a virtual preview of the safest path from the tee to green.

This would seem to me, to be deemed advice from the Skycaddie.
I do believe (I could be wrong) that another GPS was deemed illegal because it
suggested clubs, based on the players history. Seems to me, suggesting the path to play,
is worse than just doing the math for a player of what club s/he usually uses for
a certain distance.

Yes, I have asked this question to Skycaddie, and await their response.

[PaulN64007]

RichB, on Oct 15 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

Yes, I have asked this question to Skycaddie, and await their response.

I would like to know the answer you get to this. Please keep us informed.

[ronbo]

This new feature is conforming, it does not give you a suggested club to use which would make it non-conforming. I haven't had a chance to use mine yet, but I think it looks great a can't wait to put it in play.

[Englishman]

It strikes me that there can't be anything non-conforming about showing the route the hole takes. After all, it's only like a high-tech version of the little map on the back of the score-card. If it was to suggest a club based on your past history, how is that different from what a real Caddie does? How can a gizmo tell you something that a bloke can, but it be illegal info from the gadget?
I guess I'm just hoping that technology delivers on it's promises and I end up with a holographic Steve Williams walking the course with me. Scratch that - I want a holographic Eliza Dushku.

Mark.

[RichB]

Englishman, on Oct 16 2009, 07:40 AM, said:

It strikes me that there can't be anything non-conforming about showing the route the hole takes.

You are correct. However, my concern was that this function tells you (supposedly)
*what* route to take. As in...hit to the fairway at 217 yards, leaving 135 to green....
as it has deemed *this* to be the *safest path* to the green.

Updates from SkyCaddie:
As mentioned above I sent two questions to SkyCaddie in one email.

#1. How do I turn this function off so I can have my target list back?
answered with the full button push details...
(this representative did not offer a response to question 2...but as it was not an
operational question, I wasn't surprised...not this reps territory)

but simplified (by me, for this post)...the new QuickVue is now the *standard* display
of targets. So much for my text only list. De-select *standard*...QuickVue is disabled.
(but, I must use the graphical list...not a big deal...but would have been nice to know
before I had to scroll thru target by target during my round.)

#2. Has the function of *safest path* been approved by the USGA/R&A?
This email was received within an hour, after, the first reply.
This representative did give an answer to question 1.
>At this time...The QuickVue function can not be disabled<
(uh...might want to talk to the first rep...)

In answering part 2...didn't answer the question.
Answered that GPS was deemed legal by USGA/R&A in 2006,
and pointed me toward the rules website.

So, since SkyCaddie didn't answer the question...
I sent it straight to the source. I've asked the USGA, and will update
the thread when I hear back from them.

I have absolutely no idea why this is bugging me.
Perhaps just the result of the frustration of trying to find my targets during
yesterday's round...but this *safest path* just doesn't seem right to me.

Oh...I had mentioned in the earlier post about a GPS possibly being
deemed illegal due to club suggestions. In browsing, I've have seen at least one
model with this function *advertised* as being USGA legal for competition.
So, it is certainly possible that I either misheard, was misinformed, or mis remembered...
some illegality of the function. (or the ad was wrong).

Rich

[Oldnavycdr]

I have to commend SkyCaddie for including the older models in their feature upgrades. I have an SG3 and rather than having to purchase a new model to gain these features (or substantially improved performance) SkyCaddie has been savy enough to includes these in their software upgrades -- both improved performance through software upgades and additional features. Admitedly, SkyCaddie started out poorly and I nearly chucked mine, but they have remained committed to their products and for that I commend them. When my SG3 ultimately bites the dust I will likely return to SkyCaddie for a replacement.

[Pepperturbo]

I used some of the new functionality this wkend... it's a worthy improvement. I especially like the green depth and the new layout info. Although I didn't benefit from the fairway arrows, on a new course that will be nice. So far I like!

[jonhoffm]

RichB, on Oct 15 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

OK. I played today with QuickVue.
Totally useless (to me), since you can't measure anything.

I played with QuickVue yesterday and agree that it is useless. It gives you a recommended "layup" position and then the yardage you will have left for your approach. It was impossible for me to tell how it was coming up with these suggestions. Many times it seemed to be bringing hazards into play off of the tee, while in other situations is seemed to leave relatively long second shots into a very well-guarded green. I see this feature as merely a temporary fix until HoleVue can be rolled out for a significant number of courses.

Intelligreen Pro, on the other hand, was quite impressive. I found it to be accurate and helpful in determining where the pin really was on the green and what you had to contend with.

[mojo_13]

I will agree that QuickVue is useless I have no idea why it wants me to layup on a short par 4 150 yards out. Can't understand what is going on or why they pick the yardages they do. Oh well guess I will just have to wait til HoleVue. Overall though I really like my Skycaddie 3.5. Wish that the course I play had the Intelligreen Pro looks like it would be a good feature to try out.

[78Staff]

jonhoffm, on Oct 20 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

RichB, on Oct 15 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

OK. I played today with QuickVue.
Totally useless (to me), since you can't measure anything.

I played with QuickVue yesterday and agree that it is useless.

Intelligreen Pro, on the other hand, was quite impressive. I found it to be accurate and helpful in determining where the pin really was on the green and what you had to contend with.

+1... Quickview what are they thinking... IGPro I only looked at briefly, none of my normal courses have it so I d/l'd TPC to check it out. Useful for courses not played very often I suspect.

BUT, coming from the upro (which I sold, mainly due to screen view issues in sunlight and short battery life), back to the SG line (had the SG5 before the upro) is somewhat disappointing. I guess I got used to having the hole view and being able to tell a yardage anywhere on the hole.

So, I bought a Garmin Approach to try, should be here by the end of the week. Like the upro but with graphic images instead of pictures, should be easier to see from the reviews I've read, plus replaceable AA's so no more worries about battery life. Have 30 days to return either so if I like the Garmin this weekend the SG3.5 may be going back.

[Zunes]

78Staff, on Oct 20 2009, 01:20 PM, said:

jonhoffm, on Oct 20 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

RichB, on Oct 15 2009, 08:08 PM, said:

OK. I played today with QuickVue.
Totally useless (to me), since you can't measure anything.

I played with QuickVue yesterday and agree that it is useless.

Intelligreen Pro, on the other hand, was quite impressive. I found it to be accurate and helpful in determining where the pin really was on the green and what you had to contend with.

+1... Quickview what are they thinking... IGPro I only looked at briefly, none of my normal courses have it so I d/l'd TPC to check it out. Useful for courses not played very often I suspect.

BUT, coming from the upro (which I sold, mainly due to screen view issues in sunlight and short battery life), back to the SG line (had the SG5 before the upro) is somewhat disappointing. I guess I got used to having the hole view and being able to tell a yardage anywhere on the hole.

So, I bought a Garmin Approach to try, should be here by the end of the week. Like the upro but with graphic images instead of pictures, should be easier to see from the reviews I've read, plus replaceable AA's so no more worries about battery life. Have 30 days to return either so if I like the Garmin this weekend the SG3.5 may be going back.

Let us know what you think of the Garmin. I am doubting we will ever see SG's holeview on our courses.

[rickpal14]

Used my SG5 today with the QuickVue for the first time today. I am in Atlanta this week and was playing a new course so overall I found QuickVue to be at least a little helpful......

...... until it gave me a layup on a par 5 of 408 yards leaving a 102 approach!!!!

Too bad I left my 408 club back home!!!! LOL

Love the SG5 though.. Just thought this was funny.....

[hmm_121]

Can't help but add my opinion in on the new QuickVue feature. From the moment I looked at if after downloading the update I could not understand what benefit it would give. That feeling was only further substantiated once I played a round utilizing the new feature.

I would gladly trade this feature in to SkyGolf for the ability to be able to add a few custom markers per hole on a course that was from a downloaded course via SkyGolf. Why can't we have the option to tweak a SkyGolf mapped course so we can keep the intelligreen feature and not just the F,M,B options we get on a self mapped course? I think everyone has there own favorite layup points that they would like to be able to add to a course map.

[PaulN64007]

The QuickVue and HoleVue are in beta right now and it's up to us to let them know what we want. I would love that feature and have already asked them to do that. I'm sure they wont do it with just one person asking them so we need lots of people to send a lot of emails to them asking for the feature.

[BobBadger]

God what a disappointment.... Any idea how I can get back to the previous version?

[23muc]

I don't really care about the hole/quick view.
How did those that have used it like the intelligreen pro??
Any hints as to what the different shadings mean? ... or is it best to just wait till you play a course with the green mapped and figure it out from there?

[hsq91]

The quick vue looks like a 3rd grader drew it. It would be more useful if they actually showed some detail. For example, only a portion of the hole at a time and allowing you to scroll forward. I noticed in quickvue there are tiny dots signifying bunkers except you can hardly see Them and even then it gives you no useful information.

I've also used the igreen pro and it was somewhat useful. I believe the light green represents slope and is especially useful if you are playing a new course. I was hoping for somehing like topography lines. Now that would be cool

[Zunes]

BobBadger, on Oct 23 2009, 02:04 PM, said:

God what a disappointment.... Any idea how I can get back to the previous version?

Go into you settings and turn off the "standard" view.

[Zunes]

If Holeview doesn't come real soon, I will be switching to Upro or Garmin.

[crtssxc]

Used this yesterday and I think the new features are pretty useless. On a 450 yard par 5 that was straight away, they suggested I hit it 200 off the tee to leave 250 to the hole... just doesnt make much sense. I think if they had a hole view that would have been helpful, especially on new courses.