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PING G10 DRIVER vs. G15 DRIVER...


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#1 jdhonger

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Posted 18 September 2009 - 04:58 PM

I am considering getting one or the other, and have not had a chance yet to try them side-by-side, stock shafts fine by me.  Anyone out there have any opinions, or did try them already?  Thanks!

Edited by jdhonger, 18 September 2009 - 04:59 PM.


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Posted 18 September 2009 - 11:51 PM

All you need to compare is by going to the link below.  All the compares are done on the Ping Man.  G15 is +6 yrds longer on center hits and an average of +10 yards longer on off center hits.  G10 was a great driver, but G15 is looking to be much better.  Some amazing stat's on mishits.  G15 is really forgiving from reports.  I just got mine today and will compare to my Rapture V2 and a G10 I had a year ago.  The Rapture V2 is amazing and I've heard/read the G15 is comparable distance wise and maybe even more forgiving.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 12:35 AM

I hit the G15 and the V2 yesterday at a outdoor range superstore.  The G15 had the Serrano shaft and the V2 had the Diamana.  

The V2 had R and the G15s I tried had S and R.  I could've played with R or S and it would not have made much difference to me based on my eyesight.  I guess TrackMan would split the 'hairs' on the G15 with regards to what shaft flex is best for me.

The V2 and the G15 compared favorably the same.  Again, TrackMan would have to split the 'hairs' to see if the additional $100 is money well worth spent.

I did like the feeling at impact on the V2 and I'm not sure if that's the clubhead or the shaft.  BTW, I really liked the Diamana shaft.  It was the first time I ever hit a golf club with that shaft.  As of now, the G15 isn't offered with the Diamana.  And, it maybe that the G15 doesn't work well with the Diamana since these clubs seemed to be designed with certain shafts in mind.

At my age, I'm going to rely on technology to tell me what shaft and clubhead to use for complete effeciency.  My swing speed will not increase with age, so effeciency is where I can benefit going forward.

G15 or the V2; I'd be happy with either.  For the record, I'm going from the G2 to G15 or V2.  G15 and V2 seemed more forgiving on mishits from what I can tell.  Good stuff.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 09:39 AM

Previously owned a G10 10.5* with TFC129D Regular and recently demoed a G15 10.5* with TFC149D Regular.  Found the G15 to be longer off the tee and noticeably more forgiving.  The TFC149D shaft, despite it's high torque rating (Reg = 5.8*), seemed to work quite well with the G15 head.  Would have liked to try the lower torque (4.0*) Serrano shaft option, but one was not available.  IMHO, the G15 is a worthy replacement for the G10.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 09:46 AM

Just to add, the LARGEST difference is on a strike below the center of the face.  Testing shows on a below center of the face strike the G15 to be 20+ yards longer.

So if hitting it there is a miss in your game, it is worth getting one.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 10:39 AM

interesting hearing this.....I tried them side by side outdoors (both 9* TFC Stiff) this week and came away liking my G10 better. For me, all aspects were negligible at best and am staying with my G10.

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Posted 19 September 2009 - 07:19 PM

I had been trying to decide between the V2 and the G15 both with Reg Ping shafts.  I hit  them a number of times trying to make up my mind.  I would always get better distance with the V2 about 5 -7 yards better.  But the G15 felt very good not that the V2 did not.  
So it was close I went with the cheaper the G15 10.5*.  After playing with it for one round I have to say  it is a very nice driver.  Long and very easy to hit.  I think I made the right choice.

However I also have a Dymo 2 str8 9.5* that is about as good as the Ping.  When I go play I take both drivers and try to makeup my mind which to use.  They are very close in easy of use and performace.  At this point I can not decide which I like better.  They are equal.  This is the result of club Ho'ing.

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Posted 20 September 2009 - 06:12 PM

Do their tests use the same shaft with each head?  Could some of the distance differences be due to shafts?  I'm pretty conditioned to my NV green shaft, so would only be interested in swapping out the heads.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 02:57 PM

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 04:54 PM

Wow.  that's pretty impressive results for the G15.  I didn't really notice much difference compared to my G10.  But most of my hits are on the high part of the face.  Nothing low.  I guess the biggest difference are on the low face hits.


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Posted 21 September 2009 - 06:28 PM

View Postseena_beena, on Sep 21 2009, 03:57 PM, said:


I feel sorry for all the fools out there still playing their horribly outdated G10's. I'll enjoy my longer walks to the ball suckers :D

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:09 PM

View PostMtlJeff, on Sep 21 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

View Postseena_beena, on Sep 21 2009, 03:57 PM, said:


I feel sorry for all the fools out there still playing their horribly outdated G10's. I'll enjoy my longer walks to the ball suckers :D

G15 = awesome stick

Good info. Wonder if this applies to the Rapture V2 Driver as well?  Ping site lists Rapture V2 as extreme forgiveness and  G15 as maximum forgiveness (i believe those were the terms used by Ping) where they compare all their different drivers.

Anyone have any feedback comparing G15 to Rapture V2 as well?

Thanks.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 08:45 PM

Get the G15.  It is 5 better than the G10.

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:03 PM

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Sorry Im not buying all the hype. Heres my problem here, you can fidge the numbers many different ways. First of all it only lists carry distance. Second of all it doesnt list spin, LA, AOD, nothing. Basically it is telling me the G15 spins like a top with the extra carry. They also dont tell you if both were extact 9 degree heads. One could be a 10 and the other a 9. With roll out maybe the G10 is 5 yards longer? Anyone else skeptical?

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Posted 21 September 2009 - 09:39 PM

Ok. This is what I have
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G15 9 with a Fubuki 63 stiff

G10 9 with a Whiteboard 63 stiff.

I only have one round with the G15 and I was swinging not so great but did manage to hit a couple nice drives.

Between these 2. For my 95 Mph swing. The G15 is longer. It is a improvement over the G10. A huge difference? Maybe. Depends how you define huge. I will say either one of these drivers I could play for the next couple years and be happy. It just seems that on mishits I ended up farther down the fairway than I thought, with the G15 that is. It seems to be sneaky long. But that could have more to do with the shafts. Launch is about the same, I think spin is a lower with the G15. I was getting some decent roll.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 03:18 AM

Equipement so good now that IMO, the only thing I can choose is feel.  I'll be counting on an outdoor range with TracMan to tell me what driver is best for me:  My old G2 with after-market Fuji or the G15 or the V2.  

IMO, if you got a G10 I just don't see how there can be that much difference to the G15.  It's all about personal preference.  IMO, the only reason to change drivers anymore is due to boredom.  I doubt my scores will change by me going from my trusty G2 to a G15.  Instead, find me a putter that makes everything 6 feet or less and my scores shall change.  <grin>

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 03:15 PM

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Sorry Im not buying all the hype. Heres my problem here, you can fidge the numbers many different ways. First of all it only lists carry distance. Second of all it doesnt list spin, LA, AOD, nothing. Basically it is telling me the G15 spins like a top with the extra carry. They also dont tell you if both were extact 9 degree heads. One could be a 10 and the other a 9. With roll out maybe the G10 is 5 yards longer? Anyone else skeptical?

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 04:08 PM

All I can add is this driver is longer than anything else I've tried. If I can lower my spin, i'll hit it even further. Think the TM LDP red balls have played a part as well.
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Posted 22 September 2009 - 04:46 PM

View Postrbmercer, on Sep 19 2009, 10:39 AM, said:

interesting hearing this.....I tried them side by side outdoors (both 9* TFC Stiff) this week and came away liking my G10 better. For me, all aspects were negligible at best and am staying with my G10.
man, you guys are gonna make me hit these aside by side again. Maybe I missed it, but I didn't like the results from the G15 any better than my G10(the above is my original assessment). I will get back out to the range and test again.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 06:04 PM

i gamed the G10 blueboard for 2 years and thought it was the best driver on the planet. Purchased a G15 with the TFC 129 shaft 3 weeks ago and have played a dozen rounds with it. My findings are that the G15 is infact a better driver 5 to 10 yards longer and much more forgiving. This thing just wants to go straight. The G15 will launch a touch higher than the G10 make sure you get fitted.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 07:32 PM

View Postnyjets1, on Sep 22 2009, 07:04 PM, said:

i gamed the G10 blueboard for 2 years and thought it was the best driver on the planet. Purchased a G15 with the TFC 129 shaft 3 weeks ago and have played a dozen rounds with it. My findings are that the G15 is infact a better driver 5 to 10 yards longer and much more forgiving. This thing just wants to go straight. The G15 will launch a touch higher than the G10 make sure you get fitted.

Can you expand on your comparison? I was fitted by the Ping van for a G10 10.5 Blueboard regular shaft...but didn't pull the trigger. Now I just bought the G15 10.5 TFC regular and don't seem to be in love. Was thinking of looking at the Serrano shaft which I've heard compared to the Blueboard. Did you try the Serrano?

Thanks!

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 09:06 PM

View PostTJW, on Sep 22 2009, 08:32 PM, said:

View Postnyjets1, on Sep 22 2009, 07:04 PM, said:

i gamed the G10 blueboard for 2 years and thought it was the best driver on the planet. Purchased a G15 with the TFC 129 shaft 3 weeks ago and have played a dozen rounds with it. My findings are that the G15 is infact a better driver 5 to 10 yards longer and much more forgiving. This thing just wants to go straight. The G15 will launch a touch higher than the G10 make sure you get fitted.

Can you expand on your comparison? I was fitted by the Ping van for a G10 10.5 Blueboard regular shaft...but didn't pull the trigger. Now I just bought the G15 10.5 TFC regular and don't seem to be in love. Was thinking of looking at the Serrano shaft which I've heard compared to the Blueboard. Did you try the Serrano?

Thanks!
i did try the Serrano stiff flex in the 10.5* but i got better results with the TFC stiff in the 9* head. The Serrano launched alittle lower than the TFC with less spin. As far as feel i could not tell the difference between the two shafts. My G10 blueboard is 10.5* stiff the new G15 TFC 129 stiff 9* hope this helps. You may want to test the 9*
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Posted 22 September 2009 - 10:12 PM

So I'm a month in to my G15 experiment ... which has now become experment_s_.  I have three now -- all Serrano shafts, 10.5* Reg, 9*Reg, and 9*Stiff.  

You can see the WITB below for status, but at this writing, the V2 remains in the sack.  Actually, what's threatening it more is another V2-BB that was tip-trimmed 3/8".   And yes, I'd say that the Serrano feels an awful lot like the Blueboard -- in this head at least.  Nice mid-launch, low-spin, smooth-feeling shaft.  But since I like the BB in the V2, it's still my favorite.

But that said, I'm not dumping these G15s just yet.  I have gotten good to excellent results.  I still feel my V2-BB is longer, but the G15 (10.5*R) has performed really well.  Better than my G10 (to stick with the original thread).  In fact, I guess the point of this post is to say that I don't feel the G10 (with a Blueboard) is as good as the G15 Serrano.  And truth be told, I have one sub-80 round in my whole life ... and the G15 was on the tee-box 14 times on that round, and in the fairway 10.  Hard to argue with that ... but I still just like the V2 better ... for now.

So I'm going to keep testing these out.  

I'll also say that I have found not much difference in any aspect between my 9* and 10.5* Regulars ... maybe if I had them digitally measured, I'd find they're close.  But I'm pretty sure at least one of these will be sold by the end of the month.  I'll also say that the Stiff flex doesn't feel a whole lot different than the Reg flex either.  My SS is borderline anyway ... and I'm looking at the 9* Stiff for days when it's been dry and my home course runs like a rabbit; trying for those low, long-rolling strokes.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 10:50 PM

View Postseena_beena, on Sep 22 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

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Sorry Im not buying all the hype. Heres my problem here, you can fidge the numbers many different ways. First of all it only lists carry distance. Second of all it doesnt list spin, LA, AOD, nothing. Basically it is telling me the G15 spins like a top with the extra carry. They also dont tell you if both were extact 9 degree heads. One could be a 10 and the other a 9. With roll out maybe the G10 is 5 yards longer? Anyone else skeptical?

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The tests are carried out on a robot using trackman......

OK but heres the other problem. Different shafts were used in different heads. Maybe the shaft in the G10 isn't playing the same as the one in the G15, giving the G15 better BS and lower spin. In fact Im sure they are not. Could the G15 be a little hotter than the G10 tested as well? Manufacturing errors? If the G10 is .830 cor and the G15 .830 cor than they should be identical in the sweetspot hits. They are not but should be.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 04:40 AM

View PostAcesAZ, on Sep 22 2009, 11:50 PM, said:

View Postseena_beena, on Sep 22 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

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Sorry Im not buying all the hype. Heres my problem here, you can fidge the numbers many different ways. First of all it only lists carry distance. Second of all it doesnt list spin, LA, AOD, nothing. Basically it is telling me the G15 spins like a top with the extra carry. They also dont tell you if both were extact 9 degree heads. One could be a 10 and the other a 9. With roll out maybe the G10 is 5 yards longer? Anyone else skeptical?

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The tests are carried out on a robot using trackman......

OK but heres the other problem. Different shafts were used in different heads. Maybe the shaft in the G10 isn't playing the same as the one in the G15, giving the G15 better BS and lower spin. In fact Im sure they are not. Could the G15 be a little hotter than the G10 tested as well? Manufacturing errors? If the G10 is .830 cor and the G15 .830 cor than they should be identical in the sweetspot hits. They are not but should be.

If that is your argument, then you will NEVER be able to compare them huh?  I mean you could test both with the exact same shaft and loft and still argue the difference is still because one head was manufactured "hotter" within tolerances.  It will never be a fair comparison according to your logic!  Next thing you will say is the robot is swinging 0.1% faster with the G15 to give the inflated numbers. :russian_roulette:

IMO, this is a VERY apples-to-apples comparison.  Old vs new both, both with same flex stock shaft on a robot with trackman.  Proof is in the pudding.


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Posted 23 September 2009 - 06:00 AM

Interesting numbers.  Problem I have with the test is that it is set up for the long hitters, 105 mph and stiff shafts.  It would be nice to see what an average hitter like me would look like with 85 90 mph and a regular shaft.       :smilie_ping:
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 06:03 AM

View Postcrazygolfnut, on Sep 23 2009, 07:00 AM, said:

Interesting numbers. Problem I have with the test is that it is set up for the long hitters, 105 mph and stiff shafts. It would be nice to see what an average hitter like me would look like with 85 90 mph and a regular shaft. :smilie_ping:

Agreed.  I am a reg flex guy too and just ordered the G15 with Serrano reg.  Surely has to be an improvement over my G5 with stock TFC!

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:34 AM

View Postfoppafan, on Sep 23 2009, 04:40 AM, said:

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View Postseena_beena, on Sep 22 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

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Sorry Im not buying all the hype. Heres my problem here, you can fidge the numbers many different ways. First of all it only lists carry distance. Second of all it doesnt list spin, LA, AOD, nothing. Basically it is telling me the G15 spins like a top with the extra carry. They also dont tell you if both were extact 9 degree heads. One could be a 10 and the other a 9. With roll out maybe the G10 is 5 yards longer? Anyone else skeptical?


OK but heres the other problem. Different shafts were used in different heads. Maybe the shaft in the G10 isn't playing the same as the one in the G15, giving the G15 better BS and lower spin. In fact Im sure they are not. Could the G15 be a little hotter than the G10 tested as well? Manufacturing errors? If the G10 is .830 cor and the G15 .830 cor than they should be identical in the sweetspot hits. They are not but should be.

If that is your argument, then you will NEVER be able to compare them huh?  I mean you could test both with the exact same shaft and loft and still argue the difference is still because one head was manufactured "hotter" within tolerances.  It will never be a fair comparison according to your logic!  Next thing you will say is the robot is swinging 0.1% faster with the G15 to give the inflated numbers. :russian_roulette:

IMO, this is a VERY apples-to-apples comparison.  Old vs new both, both with same flex stock shaft on a robot with trackman.  Proof is in the pudding.

I dont buy it because you're telling me .830 isnt .830. If the G10 was built up to the limit then it should have the exact same ballspeed as the G15 on sweetspot hits. Im more inclined to see its longer on mishits even if you take out the hottness factor (manufacturing errors) in these two heads. About a couple yards on mishits.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 10:16 AM

I moved from a G5 to the G15 but have tested the G10 side by side on an indoor launch monitor with compoarable low torque/low spin shafts. Hate to burst your bubble guys but they are all (including the G5) pretty much equal with distance, flight, spin, etc. I do seem to get a little bit more forgiveness with the G15 with off-center hits and a tad more roll.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 11:45 AM

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I dont buy it because you're telling me .830 isnt .830. If the G10 was built up to the limit then it should have the exact same ballspeed as the G15 on sweetspot hits. Im more inclined to see its longer on mishits even if you take out the hottness factor (manufacturing errors) in these two heads. About a couple yards on mishits.

C.O.R. or CT is only 1 of many factors in BALLSPEED..........

A more important factor is the DESIGN.........and how much ENERGY this DESIGN transfers to the BALL

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