[glcoach]

Kenny Perry dumped the caddie with whom he has most of his wins. He notified his caddie via his agent. The caddie knew nothing of the change as they worked all last week together. The caddie will be replaced by his son.

Nice move KP.

First you help out your hometown kid and annoint him a "swing genius" and the PGA Tour and TGC fall for it hook line and sinker and now your dumping your caddie so you can put your son on the bag.

I guess in this tough economy, putting your son, who can't find a job, on the bag and letting go of an employee and replacing with a family member for tax purposes makes a lot of sense.

Just be up front about and do it like a man. Not through an agent.

[hattrick3518]

wow dick move, kenny keeps moving down my bad side

[Babydaddy]

He's making it worse by refusing to comment.
If it is true that he used his agent it tells me that he is a ninny and a coward.
There's nothing worse than someone who uses someone else to do something like that.
But, there may be more to the story than we know. I hope so, because if not, it's bad.

[cameronputtercollector]

I agree... totally classless move!!! It appears his caddie and him have been together for YEARS. Article mentioned for most of his wins.

[OldSkoolTexan]

Yeah, I read that on golf.com and couldnt believe it. He was playing the tournament, WITH the guy on the bag, and had his agent tell him that he is fired the same week. Maybe he just forgot to mention it. I guess it would have gone something like this: "Hey, how many paces is that pin off the back edge of that bunker? Oh and youre fired! 6ir please."

[Thaddy]

[slickpitt]

Nah. I heard the caddy told him to hit a little fade on one hole.
[/quote]

lmao.. that was pretty good!

[falken19150]

People are scum basically. That is a dick move for sure. At least Tiger told Fluff in person albeit on the course, but still.

[theislandofpen]

Fred Sanders is an excellent caddy and I highly doubt he will have trouble finding another job with a top player. That being said firing your long time partner that helped you earn all of your wins is kind of a d*ck move.

[kekoa]

Who is Perry's son and how many times has he seen the courses on tour up front and personal. I'm sure this won't last long.

[Asleep]

I've been told by tour caddies/players that the caddie/player relationship is often difficult/strained.

I have no issue with Perry choosing his son over anyone, as I hope my father would. He's 49, maybe wanting to give his son a "leg-up" before retiring.

Perhaps KP could have handled the firing more appropriately --- he may just be non-confrontational (except for challenging Sergio to an R9 drive-off.)

By the same token, if I'm on tour looking to "upgrade" my caddie --- which happens all the time, dump your guy for a "better" one --- I'd sure think twice before hiring a caddie who went to the media with his player's personal business.


I seem to recall a player firing his caddie in the middle of a tournament round within the last few years...

[Will Par]

The fact that it was handled in this manner is a clear indication that there is more to the firing than is being reported. Something happened that will probably never be revealed.

[OpusX20]

Will Par, on Sep 2 2009, 10:41 AM, said:

The fact that it was handled in this manner is a clear indication that there is more to the firing than is being reported. Something happened that will probably never be revealed.

I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a "clear indication". But, it is entirely possible. In the corporate world, it would not be uncommon to use a third party (I.e., HR dept, lawyer, etc.) to terminate a persons employment if there was a good chance it could get ugly or end up in litigation.

It could just be a classless move by Kenny, but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion yet. That type of action doesn't seem consistent with the perception that many folks (including me) have of him.

[ASK3L]

the caddy might have told him not to improve his lie again!

[highergr0und]

Maybe there's a legal reason for it? Maybe Perry didn't want to fire him and there was something/someone else behind it?

[slowsi00]

either way.

if your in a business relationship that long with someone shouldn't you let them know face to face your canceling ties with them.

but whatever.

who will really know unless both people come out and say the same thing.

[mikethedog]

Haven't you guys been around long enough to know that there is always more to the story than what you hear second hand? Or in this case third or fourth hand

[danimal]

mikethedog, on Sep 2 2009, 11:13 AM, said:

Haven't you guys been around long enough to know that there is always more to the story than what you hear second hand? Or in this case third or fourth hand

What are you talking about? I heard it on an internet forum. It has got to be true. Case closed. To the gallows KP!

[tdk8180]

It's that show Entourage that is doing it. You know that show has shaped the way people feel about themselves and the way they act.

He probably likes the show and wanted to feel like he was important, like Vince does. So he wanted to put his son, (Turtle, the useless guy who drives Vince around.) on the bag.

Damn you Markie Mark, think you're so cool.

[floyd]

Thats low.

[Doc420]

I don't know if there is anything to this story or not But Fred used to be a member of my Club when he was the caddy for Russ Cochran. Fred is a big time gambler and used to like to party alot. I don't know if anything happened but who knows.

[J13]

He wanted to give his son a job, bottom line here. If he did it via agent it's a scumbag move but not surprising. We know what the media tells us so personally who the hell knows what happened.

[pickerjohn]

His employee, his choice. Does not matter what anyone else thinks,
KP and Fred may be the only ones to know the whys, and what fors.

[OpusX20]

tdk8180, on Sep 2 2009, 02:28 PM, said:

It's that show Entourage that is doing it. You know that show has shaped the way people feel about themselves and the way they act.

He probably likes the show and wanted to feel like he was important, like Vince does. So he wanted to put his son, (Turtle, the useless guy who drives Vince around.) on the bag.

Damn you Markie Mark, think you're so cool.

Everyone here under 30 years old just went to Google and discovered the executive producer of Entourage used to be a rapper.

(Who would have thought that Marky Mark would have been discussed in 2 different threads only minutes from one another. The power of the Interwebs.)

[Johwak121]

Asleep, on Sep 2 2009, 11:34 AM, said:

I've been told by tour caddies/players that the caddie/player relationship is often difficult/strained.

Sounds like a good way to build a healty father son relationship....

[NPVWhiz]

glcoach, on Sep 2 2009, 10:43 AM, said:

Kenny Perry dumped the caddie with whom he has most of his wins. He notified his caddie via his agent. The caddie knew nothing of the change as they worked all last week together. The caddie will be replaced by his son.

Nice move KP.

First you help out your hometown kid and annoint him a "swing genius" and the PGA Tour and TGC fall for it hook line and sinker and now your dumping your caddie so you can put your son on the bag.

I guess in this tough economy, putting your son, who can't find a job, on the bag and letting go of an employee and replacing with a family member for tax purposes makes a lot of sense.

Just be up front about and do it like a man. Not through an agent.

I think some of you are looking at this all wrong. Kenny Perry PAYS this fellow. He reaches into his wallet and gives him money...his own money, in exchange for his services. Nobody knows the details.

My inclination is that if an otherwise upstanding guy like KP let the guy go that way, then there is a 99.9% chance that there are details that we're not privy to that would explain why.

It is a tough economy, and if KP wants to keep his income in the family, more power to him. Who knows the reason why? I don't think you should be so quick to judge.

This is a business decision for KP. To view it as firing a friend or a buddy, or some other arrangement is nonsense. If the caddie wants to be sure that they receive a person to person firing, they should write that into their employment agreement. And I've got news for you. Few caddies have that level of leverage in the employment bargain. That's the way it works when there are 10 guys waiting in the parking lot to take the deal you just turned down.

[againstthegrain]

No body cried the blues when my wife and TONS of other people are laid off/let go/fired by HR, not their boss.

[BugsyinNC]

Babydaddy, on Sep 2 2009, 10:56 AM, said:

He's making it worse by refusing to comment.
If it is true that he used his agent it tells me that he is a ninny and a coward.
There's nothing worse than someone who uses someone else to do something like that.
But, there may be more to the story than we know. I hope so, because if not, it's bad.

Maybe KP is taking the high road by not giving the details to the press? He has always appeared to me at least to be a good guy, we don't know all the details behind this and probably never will.

[MrJones]

Sounds to me like these two probably already had words before the firing and Perry was done talking.

A lot of the big bosses at companies like to be out during layoff time. They don't want to deal with a bunch of people running up to their office wanting "to discuss".

[johnnypro]

Maybe the son will keep him from gagging away another Masters.

There are ways of doing things and ways of NOT doing things.

You suck, KP!

[robb01]

pretty crappy of KP

[Redman]

MrJones, on Sep 3 2009, 08:31 AM, said:

Sounds to me like these two probably already had words before the firing and Perry was done talking.

A lot of the big bosses at companies like to be out during layoff time. They don't want to deal with a bunch of people running up to their office wanting "to discuss".

I agree here. I am sure something else has already taken place for Kenny to do it like this. There is nothing in his past that should make anyone think he would do this because he is a pr!ck. Everyone loves to jump to conlcusions and grill someone when they don't have the whole or even half of the story.

[baffler]

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I don't know if there is anything to this story or not But Fred used to be a member of my Club when he was the caddy for Russ Cochran. Fred is a big time gambler and used to like to party alot. I don't know if anything happened but who knows.

Wouldn't be much of a change then.