[psygolf]

I understand business decisions; but you can kiss honest editiorials good bye if the site starts selling equipment...ironic considering the recent popularity of a putter blog.

[beruo]

Sorry, but it takes a lot of money to run things properly, and some of the moderators started demanding free clubs in exchange for their time. The easiest way to make this happen was to sell out to a couple of the OEMs in exchange for positive opinions. Not much will change in terms of content, but you'll definitely see some bag changes in the WITB threads. I'll be posting mine shortly, along with invitations to the black tie event.

[TM golf guy 182]

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

[beruo]

By the by...I was joking. As far as I know, and I think I know a lot, GolfWRX is not getting into the selling business. So no worries there.

[psygolf]

beruo, on Jul 25 2009, 12:06 AM, said:

Sorry, but it takes a lot of money to run things properly, and some of the moderators started demanding free clubs in exchange for their time. The easiest way to make this happen was to sell out to a couple of the OEMs in exchange for positive opinions. Not much will change in terms of content, but you'll definitely see some bag changes in the WITB threads. I'll be posting mine shortly, along with invitations to the black tie event.

So...we can quote you on the "sell out!?" Free clubs for positive opinions = Payolla

*Have them hire there own panderers!

[owaisdurrani]

new page looks kind of cool if you ask me. lol.

[psygolf]

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

You will care if this (great) site turns into something as informative as the Golftest or Rankmark.

[TM golf guy 182]

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

You will care if this (great) site turns into something as informative as the Golftest or Rankmark.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don't like the advertising, then join ClubWRX and help pay the bills. It isn't cheap to run a board this big with this many members, and have all the features (like the new video site, the picture posting, and PM boxes), and on top of that it is FREE to be a normal member. I don't think I have ever seen Gxgolfer or easyyy go crazy about TM products, or any other for that matter.

[Gxgolfer]

For almost the past two years we have been developing the platform for the most comprehensive golf review site on the Internet. This is only the first phase of a very soft launch. Not even 1.0. The site is not selling any equipment so, I'm not sure where you see that. There will be Sponsors that you can buy products from after reading reviews(similar to the forums) but, just like other review sites, the users will be generating the majority of the content, not the site.

We will be adding many more features and I think users will be extremely surprised over the next few weeks and months as the GolfWRX world expands. There have been hints on some of those features over the past few months so, if you are an avid follower, you maybe clued in.

The Front page is under heavy development and will be worked on through the weekend and through week. We have made the changes now to a live environment so that we can start finishing the core functionality and then seeing what we need to do graphically and based on user opinion on appearance.

[psygolf]

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

You will care if this (great) site turns into something as informative as the Golftest or Rankmark.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don't like the advertising, then join ClubWRX and help pay the bills. It isn't cheap to run a board this big with this many members, and have all the features (like the new video site, the picture posting, and PM boxes), and on top of that it is FREE to be a normal member. I don't think I have ever seen Gxgolfer or easyyy go crazy about TM products, or any other for that matter.

Mountains have all started somewhere... it is not the advertising that bothers me, but I have had one of the founders of Tour Edge say to me "how much do we have to advertise in Golf Magazine before we get a good reviewin the Clubtest!?" I have seen what moderation leads to once one is on the take. I'm hoping the site does not lose what has brought it its popularity to begin with - honest opinions, that may sometimes hurt.

[TM golf guy 182]

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:37 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

You will care if this (great) site turns into something as informative as the Golftest or Rankmark.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don't like the advertising, then join ClubWRX and help pay the bills. It isn't cheap to run a board this big with this many members, and have all the features (like the new video site, the picture posting, and PM boxes), and on top of that it is FREE to be a normal member. I don't think I have ever seen Gxgolfer or easyyy go crazy about TM products, or any other for that matter.

Mountains have all started somewhere... it is not the advertising that bothers me, but I have had one of the founders of Tour Edge say to me "how much do we have to advertise in Golf Magazine before we get a good reviewin the Clubtest!?" I have seen what moderation leads to once one is on the take. I'm hoping the site does not lose what has brought it its popularity to begin with - honest opinions, that may sometimes hurt.

Read the Cameron Classic Mini thread if you think that they are even close to stopping honest opinions. I think the moderation is beyond fair when it comes to allowing topics that bash equipment and write honest reviews. I have never seen a thread locked because somebody said "the Ping G10 is a terrible driver because I slice it".

[beruo]

psygolf, on Jul 24 2009, 11:37 PM, said:

Mountains have all started somewhere... it is not the advertising that bothers me, but I have had one of the founders of Tour Edge say to me "how much do we have to advertise in Golf Magazine before we get a good reviewin the Clubtest!?" I have seen what moderation leads to once one is on the take. I'm hoping the site does not lose what has brought it its popularity to begin with - honest opinions, that may sometimes hurt.

Seriously, look one post up from each of your last few. I was OBVIOUSLY joking. I thought the "mods demanding compensation" part was particularly transparent. But then I state as much. And all the explanation you could hope for was in Gx's post right above yours. Shoot, the URL on the front page should have been clue enough that it wasn't a store front (hint: you're looking for the word "review"). And mountains do have their own beginnings, but moles aren't one of them.

[psygolf]

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:42 AM, said:

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:37 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

You will care if this (great) site turns into something as informative as the Golftest or Rankmark.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don't like the advertising, then join ClubWRX and help pay the bills. It isn't cheap to run a board this big with this many members, and have all the features (like the new video site, the picture posting, and PM boxes), and on top of that it is FREE to be a normal member. I don't think I have ever seen Gxgolfer or easyyy go crazy about TM products, or any other for that matter.

Mountains have all started somewhere... it is not the advertising that bothers me, but I have had one of the founders of Tour Edge say to me "how much do we have to advertise in Golf Magazine before we get a good reviewin the Clubtest!?" I have seen what moderation leads to once one is on the take. I'm hoping the site does not lose what has brought it its popularity to begin with - honest opinions, that may sometimes hurt.

Read the Cameron Classic Mini thread if you think that they are even close to stopping honest opinions. I think the moderation is beyond fair when it comes to allowing topics that bash equipment and write honest reviews. I have never seen a thread locked because somebody said "the Ping G10 is a terrible driver because I slice it".

^^^
Not yet... which is why this is a great site where opinions are allowed & valued.

[Mizgoodie]

if mods are asking for free clubs let. let me be a mod i would do it just to keep my fav. site the best place on the web. for info and golf talk for free!!!

[obsessedgolfer]

I like the front page, it shows what golf wrx is about a place for equpment geeks to talk golf and golf equipment, there are 100s of places where you can read a good golf editorial but very few where discuss equipment like at golf wrx.

[celts5407]

i think the front page looks great. i dont see why this is an issue. if gxgolfer and easyyy and the other powers that be need to do something to bring some more money to the site, whatever it may be, to keep golfwrx going, more power to them. they and the mods do a great job at running the site, let them do what they have to do.

[BEND OF THE RIVER GC]

I am not sure I like the new front page, YET. That said, websites should continually evolve to keep it attractive, engaging and forward moving.

I think we'll all get used to the new WRX soon, until the next morph and it starts all over again!

PS: A little too much TM on the front page though! I hope they are paying good $$$$

[maskedman]

The new front page looks great. Keep it.

[amerza18]

On the front page it asks me for a username and password. Is this different from the forums username and password?

[iteachgolf]

Some of you seem to be struggling with reading comprehension skills. They are NOT selling clubs and the mods AREN'T demanding free clubs.

[Mizgoodie]

beruo,, you of all people no that you can write a joke on a forum... but the op was asking a question.. then a Marshall comes in saying things that are not true and we are all supposed to know its a joke come on.... as a Marshall why start untrue rumors even if it was a joking around...



this whole thing could have ended in one post with the right info... a not acting like the question was below a proper answer... even though the op original question was without really looking at the new home page but more of a glance imo...

[longbal30]

I would like to know why my other topic about this was locked. Does it not make more sence to have this discussion in the website help forum, since it pertains to the site.

[lebanontngolfer]

beruo, shame on you! How dare you use humor and light sarcasm to answer a question that was mildly aggressive in tone and implied negative behavior by the site founders and moderators?! Now, go sit in the corner and think about the tragic consequences of your actions!

[iteachgolf]

Mizgoodie, on Jul 25 2009, 10:32 AM, said:

beruo,, you of all people no that you can write a joke on a forum... but the op was asking a question.. then a Marshall comes in saying things that are not true and we are all supposed to know its a joke come on.... as a Marshall why start untrue rumors even if it was a joking around...



this whole thing could have ended in one post with the right info... a not acting like the question was below a proper answer... even though the op original question was without really looking at the new home page but more of a glance imo...

Your post came 8 hours after he said it was all a joke. People's problems are they don't read the whole thread. Anyone around here more than a week should know Beruo's replies will be sarcastic and/or funny

[TM golf guy 182]

lebanontngolfer, on Jul 25 2009, 09:43 AM, said:

beruo, shame on you! How dare you use humor and light sarcasm to answer a question that was mildly aggressive in tone and implied negative behavior by the site founders and moderators?! Now, go sit in the corner and think about the tragic consequences of your actions!

Seriously. Heaven forbid that beruo be beruo and make a joke. If you guys couldn't tell that he was joking, then its time to loosen your hats a bit and let the old brain get some oxygen.

[D'KRUSHER]

A surprise.. the new front page.

If I may suggest.. maybe have a regular tests analysis with a company like Hot Stix. This would provide great insight. Cheers GolfWrx.

[MrParr1Noid]

Mizgoodie, on Jul 25 2009, 08:38 AM, said:

if mods are asking for free clubs let. let me be a mod i would do it just to keep my fav. site the best place on the web. for info and golf talk for free!!!

Whether any believe the above post or not, this is the exact reason I like being a moderator at GolfWRX. We have the best golfing web site going, and my aim is to do my best to help keep it that way.

[Asleep]

First time I've seen the "front page" in years......literally, years.

[golfncode]

Asleep, on Jul 25 2009, 11:37 AM, said:

First time I've seen the "front page" in years......literally, years.

Yeah, me too. Once I discovered the forums had pretty much everything I needed, I just kept them bookmarked. Now that I've looked at the new front page, I really like it. It seems a lot cleaner, more organized, and, honestly, much more interesting. I might actually have to start looking there more often .

[JakeBarnes]

Nice layout on the front page. Well done.

The big deal about it is...????

[Mizgoodie]

a marshall shouldn't be using scrsam to answer an question.... it just leads to misinformation....

[br61]

Asleep, on Jul 25 2009, 09:37 AM, said:

First time I've seen the "front page" in years......literally, years.

Same here, I forgot what the old page looks like as I've got the main forum index bookmarked in my toolbar. Some people never like seeing any new changes while others don't mind seeing new changes. Changes can be good to keep anything up to date.

Also I find it funny that majority of people here and elsewhere do not read rest of the thread before posting their replies to 1st post they read. Just read the rest of the thread before posting your replies, I do.

BTW, thought new front page looks good and functional.

[BDLz]

The only problem I have with the new page is that it doesn't have a "remember me" function by the login. I really don't want to type in my email address and password every time I come to the site, but other than that the new front page looks fine. I assume this will be included in the many changes that Richard mentioned will be happening in the coming weeks so I'm not really all that concerned.

BDLz

[justaman5]

I like the progress in work. Very nice job. Look forward to seeing all the new stuff. Thanks!

[bluestreak]

Mizgoodie, on Jul 25 2009, 05:12 PM, said:

a marshall shouldn't be using scrsam to answer an question.... it just leads to misinformation....

[OpusX20]

Mizgoodie, on Jul 25 2009, 11:12 AM, said:

a marshall shouldn't be using scrsam to answer an question.... it just leads to misinformation....

There was no question. Just jumping to conclusions on your part. Jumping to conclusions without facts is much more likely to promote misinfomation than sarcasm.

[TM golf guy 182]

Mizgoodie, on Jul 25 2009, 11:12 AM, said:

a marshall shouldn't be using scrsam to answer an question.... it just leads to misinformation....

Posts like this worry me more than a home page change. If nobody is allowed to make a joke or be a little sarcastic then we have a problem. Beruo's humor is priceless IMO, and I would be bummed if he answered every post like a robot with no humor.

[Gxgolfer]

The Front page login works for the Review site right now and we are hoping to have it integrated soon. Hopefully today but if issues come up, it may take a little longer. We are balancing graphical and functional changes and we appreciate everyone's patience.

http://forums.golfwrx.com

is the direct link to the forums here now.

There is also some links on the front page that will take you here. As functionality returns, these things will become more transparent.

Instead of tracking responses in 2 or 3 threads, please provide feedback here. Eventually it will be moved to the website section but, this is kinda of a major change.

[Skaffa77]

Nice overall front page layout/design...seems more oriented toward equipment reviews (as mentioned)...and I will say that there is plenty more content in GolfWRX threads than just equipment...but I'm sure this is just the first step.

[easyyy]

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:37 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:27 AM, said:

psygolf, on Jul 25 2009, 12:17 AM, said:

TM golf guy 182, on Jul 25 2009, 12:10 AM, said:

I never would have seen the home page if you didn't say anything. I have the forum page bookmarked, so I rarely, if ever see the home page. I couldn't care less about TM having their name everywhere. I don't think you need to worry until you see them charging $5000 for a lifetime ClubWRX membership.

You will care if this (great) site turns into something as informative as the Golftest or Rankmark.

I think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you don't like the advertising, then join ClubWRX and help pay the bills. It isn't cheap to run a board this big with this many members, and have all the features (like the new video site, the picture posting, and PM boxes), and on top of that it is FREE to be a normal member. I don't think I have ever seen Gxgolfer or easyyy go crazy about TM products, or any other for that matter.

Mountains have all started somewhere... it is not the advertising that bothers me, but I have had one of the founders of Tour Edge say to me "how much do we have to advertise in Golf Magazine before we get a good reviewin the Clubtest!?" I have seen what moderation leads to once one is on the take. I'm hoping the site does not lose what has brought it its popularity to begin with - honest opinions, that may sometimes hurt.

We will never allow the $ to get in the way of honest opinions and a freedom to voice is. We need to trust a source. Our membership will decide what is good or bad. The review site is a great step for us. Our reviews were organized in a community engine and hard to navigate. If I wanted to see...

• Drivers rated highest to lowest by users
  
• drivers most viewed in the last 60 days
  
• drivers most viewed in the last year
  
• drivers priced between $295 and 425
  
• Drivers by Titleist, Ping or you favorite brand only

Here is a place to do that. The new review site is a better tool for us.

Richard

BDLz, on Jul 25 2009, 11:27 AM, said:

The only problem I have with the new page is that it doesn't have a "remember me" function by the login. I really don't want to type in my email address and password every time I come to the site, but other than that the new front page looks fine. I assume this will be included in the many changes that Richard mentioned will be happening in the coming weeks so I'm not really all that concerned.

BDLz

It will. We are moving fast to solve a few issues.