[MtlJeff]

http://www.timesonli...icle6368335.ece

He really hasn't played well lately, not sure if he's really attributing the whole thing to a split with the girlfriend. But just thought all you golf nuts would want to check out the story

like him or not, there are probably zero other proffesional athletes that really speak their mind with the media the way Sergio does

[HCEG1]

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long. Anyway, rumour has it he's hardly seen her for 6 months, let alone 10 weeks.

I think it's all a smokesecreen for his cr@p play recently. He hasn't sniffed a top 10 all season and has been totally eclipsed by the rapidly-improving Paul Casey who has won $2 million more than El Wimpo this season

Get a stronger mind-set like Faldo who went through how many divorces whilst still winning majors?!

[e-dog9]

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long.

What about D. Jeeter. Back when he was with that Diva singer Miriah Carey, he was in a bad slump.

Still, I agree Sergio could be making excuses. Its gotta sting to see Casey now getting the best player without a major headlines.

[ragin cajun]

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long.

I agree. Look at Adam Scott

[desaille]

ragin cajun, on May 27 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long.

I agree. Look at Adam Scott

Adam Scott
if he only had a short game and could putt

[Matt727]

Just can't wait for Sergio to prove all you guys wrong, and start doing great again just like he used to!

[RJC59]

maybe its not an excuse and some things are more important to him than his golfweek ranking.

[Matt727]

yeah my boy knows whats up haha

[J13]

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

[hogans71]

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Care to enlighten us? One of the purest strikers of the ball golf has ever seen and THAT'S the part of his game you would like to see changed?

[tmfan54]

wow. some of the people posting in this are just utterly pathetic. did those haters even READ the article? it seems that everything that sergio says gets twisted and tangled and people think he is making major excuses. it is definitely true that your feelings effect the way you play golf. none of us on this bored can truely know what it is like to be sergio and really should not blast him for being honest. some get upset at tiger for seeming like he is a public image in interviews and answers not from within himself. sergio always seems to be honest and let people know what he is really thinking. i, for one, do not have a problem with him being honest but i'd wish that other did not judge him so hard for the things he says.

[e-dog9]

I just read the article, and encourage others inclined to post to read it as well. It is very human piece. Sergio does not come off like an a*s at all.

To tell you the truth, the guy is honest with his feelings. Even if his compass is off, by my standard, he calls it how he sees it.

[MtlJeff]

e-dog9, on May 27 2009, 07:42 PM, said:

I just read the article, and encourage others inclined to post to read it as well. It is very human piece. Sergio does not come off like an a*s at all.

To tell you the truth, the guy is honest with his feelings. Even if his compass is off, by my standard, he calls it how he sees it.

amen to that!

that's what i really liked about the comments, some guys would NEVER say things like that. I felt he came off very human indeed. Based on their interviews i think some tour players may actually be robots. Sergio put his foot in his mouth so much, but he also does interviews that reveal a lot about him good or bad, you wish more guys would do that

[kal32473]

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 05:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long. Anyway, rumour has it he's hardly seen her for 6 months, let alone 10 weeks.

I think it's all a smokesecreen for his cr@p play recently. He hasn't sniffed a top 10 all season and has been totally eclipsed by the rapidly-improving Paul Casey who has won $2 million more than El Wimpo this season

Get a stronger mind-set like Faldo who went through how many divorces whilst still winning majors?!

Would this be the same Paul Casey who was a quivering mass of mental jelly for literally 2 years because he couldn't handle the reprecussions stemming from his remarks about the Ryder Cup? How long ago did he make those comments and he's just now coming back into form? Yeah, he's a great example. How many tournaments has "El Wimpo" won in the past 2 years compared to Casey? How many majors has Casey even made the cut in let alone contended in compared to Sergio? And Faldo had no problem winning majors while getting divorced because he had his mistresses (which was why he was always getting divorced) to keep him company.

[J13]

hogans71, on May 27 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Care to enlighten us? One of the purest strikers of the ball golf has ever seen and THAT'S the part of his game you would like to see changed?

Really? http://www.pgatour.c...nfo/xm.html?158

Stats don't lie, he lacks consistency. Which is either a head issue, a swing/timing issue/ or both. In his case with the amount of potential he has I think it's the latter.

[Logan Joseph]

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long. Anyway, rumour has it he's hardly seen her for 6 months, let alone 10 weeks.

I think it's all a smokesecreen for his cr@p play recently. He hasn't sniffed a top 10 all season and has been totally eclipsed by the rapidly-improving Paul Casey who has won $2 million more than El Wimpo this season

Get a stronger mind-set like Faldo who went through how many divorces whilst still winning majors?!

I couldn't agree more.

[cplof]

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Wow. Have you ever seen him hit a ball in person? So impressive!!! Everyone knows that it's his putting that he struggles with, I guess you haven't watched the majors on Sunday in the past few years.

[cplof]

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Wow. Have you ever seen him hit a ball in person? So impressive!!! Everyone knows that it's his putting that he struggles with, I guess you haven't watched the majors on Sunday in the past few years.

[cplof]

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Wow. Have you ever seen him hit a ball in person? So impressive!!! Everyone knows that it's his putting that he struggles with, I guess you haven't watched the majors on Sunday in the past few years.

[J13]

see my above post, putting is a small part of his problems. Look at the stats, they don't lie, everyone is stating opinion I choose to look at the facts, my apologies. And yes I've seen him play. Every pga pro hitting a ball is impressive hence they are professionals.

[kal32473]

Logan Joseph, on May 27 2009, 10:01 PM, said:

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 04:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long. Anyway, rumour has it he's hardly seen her for 6 months, let alone 10 weeks.

I think it's all a smokesecreen for his cr@p play recently. He hasn't sniffed a top 10 all season and has been totally eclipsed by the rapidly-improving Paul Casey who has won $2 million more than El Wimpo this season

Get a stronger mind-set like Faldo who went through how many divorces whilst still winning majors?!

I couldn't agree more.

You do realize that Casey spent 2 years seeing a shrink because he couldn't handle the heat from his Ryder Cup comments, right? He's really not the poster boy for golfers who are mentally tough. And Faldo was a selfish womanizer during his prime. He cheated on his first wife with his second wife. Cheated on his second wife with a college student. Sergio would be well advised not to follow Faldo in that regard.

[hogans71]

J13, on May 27 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

hogans71, on May 27 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Care to enlighten us? One of the purest strikers of the ball golf has ever seen and THAT'S the part of his game you would like to see changed?

Really? http://www.pgatour.c...nfo/xm.html?158

Stats don't lie, he lacks consistency. Which is either a head issue, a swing/timing issue/ or both. In his case with the amount of potential he has I think it's the latter.

Well... you'd be wrong. He's posted 23 official rounds and they have him 55th. 23 rounds is a mere blip as far as his career is concerned...
Oh yeah, we have Tour stars such as John Senden, Robert Allenby and Greg Owen in the top five of your "all important" stat that doesnt lie... Who??
Bottom line is he is a suberb ball striker- if he had a putting stroke worth a sh-t he'd be TW's biggest rival by far.


Quick glance shows three winners in the top twenty- important as all get out though...

[anders]

desaille, on May 27 2009, 04:58 PM, said:

ragin cajun, on May 27 2009, 02:51 PM, said:

HCEG1, on May 27 2009, 02:11 PM, said:

B/S Sergio. When you're a top 5 player in the world if you can't put personal relationships to the back-burner you won't be a top 100 player before long.

I agree. Look at Adam Scott

Adam Scott
if he only had a short game and could putt

Maybe this is the area he should pay closer attention to, it's where the game is won and lost.

[Golffabrik]

IMO Sergio has a couple of devils running around in his head. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he's a little bit like a manic depressive. When Sergio (for whatever reason) is down he simply can't play. His caddie knows this and while on the course always tries to keep him up, up and up. In the article Sergio himself admits that all of his friends have remarked as to "Noticing that I'm happier" again. I think being happy plays a huge role in Sergios personality, and his game. When Sergio first came out on the Tour he was a happy-go-lucky brash young man who played accordingly, now he's more experienced and is having trouble adjusting his head to the world of adult problems.

Maybe he's overly sensitive and gets a little down when things don't go his way...either on or off the course. Not all humans are cut from the same mold, and I personally know enough players who after personal hardships (see Darren Clarke) have lost not only their desire to play or practice, but also their will and drive to win.

Time will tell.

[K-Brown]

All that i can say is that when my first love and I split it devastated me for a long time.

[hurricanes7]

people have a poor opinion of sergio because they dont forget he spit in a cup, whined about losing the british open, and complained about the conditions of the masters. if he would just shut up and play and stop complaining, people wouldnt rip him so much.

[BabyFAcedAssassin]

I think its absolutly pathetic that some posters on here will not offer this guy a break.

he was open and honest, and you call it BS??? really? have oyu never played poorly following a fight or break up with the girl/wife? maybe you are all immune to emotion. There is a LONG history of athletes struggling after a personal break up. Not everyone has the ability that the greats have to put everything behind them and play.

About the ball striking, you are taking this years stats into play when Sergio has self admittedly been struggling and not him self. lots go look at years past when he was high in every ball striking category. His most frequent comment is "with his ball striking if only he could putt"....

I have also had the chance to spend some time with Sergio on and off the golf course, and he is a nicely rounded individual, who was pleasant to be around. he has made some bad choices in the media, and i won't make excuses for those, but i think attacking a guy for honesty is the lowest that you can go.

[J13]

hogans71, on May 28 2009, 12:00 AM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

hogans71, on May 27 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Care to enlighten us? One of the purest strikers of the ball golf has ever seen and THAT'S the part of his game you would like to see changed?

Really? http://www.pgatour.c...nfo/xm.html?158

Stats don't lie, he lacks consistency. Which is either a head issue, a swing/timing issue/ or both. In his case with the amount of potential he has I think it's the latter.

Well... you'd be wrong. He's posted 23 official rounds and they have him 55th. 23 rounds is a mere blip as far as his career is concerned...
Oh yeah, we have Tour stars such as John Senden, Robert Allenby and Greg Owen in the top five of your "all important" stat that doesnt lie... Who??
Bottom line is he is a suberb ball striker- if he had a putting stroke worth a sh-t he'd be TW's biggest rival by far.


Quick glance shows three winners in the top twenty- important as all get out though...

Your right not many rounds to go by take a look at 08 he's even worse. Driving accuracy is horrible, GIR he's ok, ball striking give him a C at best. Lets not live in the past instead lets focus on the 09 season. If you want I can talk about how David Duval and Davis Love are the best thing since sliced bread but there not anymore. Face FACTS sergio just isn't an elite pga player. He's had 1 win in 4 years, no majors. If he wants a ton a wins he's going to have to play the Euro Tour. Sergio for the last 4-5 years has been more of a brand then anything else.

[Eagle006]

mjtoal, on May 28 2009, 08:27 AM, said:

Spare me all the personal relationships don't matter BS. The usual brigade to Sergio haters are just responding as if Dr Pavlov rang a bell.

As for other cases, what about the wall to wall coverage of Earl Woods' last 18 months or so. While all that was going on, sponsored by Nike, Paddy Harrington's father and mentor also died and nobody passed any remarks on that.

Agreed.

[J13]

Yeah big difference between Paddy and TIger, one person changed the game as we know it one didn't. Why do people get upset about these things. The media paints the picture they want you to see, you and I both know this so why would we expect anything else. With all due respect everyone knows and is interested in Tiger woods and his family no one outside of golf cares about paddy and his family. Truth

[rki]

Statistics about fairways hit and greens in regulation do not necessarily reveal the truth.
Scoring average is a better indicator. Even though his putting isn't good, he still manages to get the ball in the hole pretty quickly.

[J13]

rki, on May 28 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

Statistics about fairways hit and greens in regulation do not necessarily reveal the truth.
Scoring average is a better indicator. Even though his putting isn't good, he still manages to get the ball in the hole pretty quickly.

I hear ya but they have an actual category "ballstriking" last year he wasn't even in the top 50 or 60 for that matter. What more can you say. Again I don't hate sergio I'm simply stating facts and people get all hot and bothered. If you base what your saying on anything other then statistics your stating opinions.

[J13]

mjtoal, on May 28 2009, 08:58 PM, said:

J13, on May 28 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

Yeah big difference between Paddy and TIger, one person changed the game as we know it one didn't. Why do people get upset about these things. The media paints the picture they want you to see, you and I both know this so why would we expect anything else. With all due respect everyone knows and is interested in Tiger woods and his family no one outside of golf cares about paddy and his family. Truth

Opinion masquerading as fact again.

The point, if you are able to understand, is the effect ON THE PLAYER.

However, you appear to have allowed the media to manipulate you too during the protracted death of Earl Woods. I am surprised there isn't a freaking national holiday of remembrance.

I am not interested in Tiger and his family, although there are a few stories that would paint a different gloss on the cosy family set up. Paddy, on the other hand, is a genuine article.

Masquerading? no sir the world knows who tiger woods is they don't know (outside of golf) who paddy is. As for my opinion, tigers father is no more important then paddys or my own for that matter. All kids losing a parent, horrible. I expect the media to focus on tiger so when they do I'm not surprised and get angry like so many on this board do. The media spotlight is on the stars of the sport, tiger woods, peyton manning, kobe bryant, labron james, hell they should rename ESPN in the fall and winter the Brett Favre channel. I think it's all ridiculous but it is what it is. It's not worth getting all sergio I mean whiney about it, lol sorry had to.

[J13]

midasmulligan2000, on May 28 2009, 10:49 PM, said:

mjtoal, on May 28 2009, 08:58 PM, said:

J13, on May 28 2009, 08:27 PM, said:

Yeah big difference between Paddy and TIger, one person changed the game as we know it one didn't. Why do people get upset about these things. The media paints the picture they want you to see, you and I both know this so why would we expect anything else. With all due respect everyone knows and is interested in Tiger woods and his family no one outside of golf cares about paddy and his family. Truth

Opinion masquerading as fact again.

The point, if you are able to understand, is the effect ON THE PLAYER.

However, you appear to have allowed the media to manipulate you too during the protracted death of Earl Woods. I am surprised there isn't a freaking national holiday of remembrance.

I am not interested in Tiger and his family, although there are a few stories that would paint a different gloss on the cosy family set up. Paddy, on the other hand, is a genuine article.

Opinion masquerading as truth"? Good one. Want truth? Here it is. Sergio is meaningless. He is not a player for the ages ... not a Jack, or Arnie, or Ben, or Walter, or Bobby. He is merely a contender in his generation. Good ballstriker? Yep. Will he be remembered a couple of decades from now (let alone a half century from now?) Nope. Very likely, neither will Paddy.

Sergio has a very solid game. Also, he has the emotional development of a 16 year old. Everything upsets him. Everything makes him whine. His supporters do anything to try to ignore this. His emotional trauma is real? Just look at Clarke? Good grief ... the death of a woman to breast cancer that you've been married to for years ... decades ... and needing to break the news to your children, and take over raising them ... is equal a guy who's girlfriend of a couple of years broke up with him ... is the same?)

No it isn't. At all for goodness sake. The dude's 28 or 29 or something ... on the pro tour in the US and Europe. And a girl breaking up with him can hose half a season? This is just a little boy.

The dude just needs to grow the frick up ... or become a country-western singer or something ("Mah baby left me, and the greens they wuz too speedy, so I'll cry into my beer, and get all teenage needy").



It's always an excuse with him.

So your saying you think Sergio is awesome? lol you get a thumbs up from me just because you used the word "frick"

[hogans71]

J13, on May 28 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

hogans71, on May 28 2009, 12:00 AM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

hogans71, on May 27 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Care to enlighten us? One of the purest strikers of the ball golf has ever seen and THAT'S the part of his game you would like to see changed?

Really? http://www.pgatour.c...nfo/xm.html?158

Stats don't lie, he lacks consistency. Which is either a head issue, a swing/timing issue/ or both. In his case with the amount of potential he has I think it's the latter.

Well... you'd be wrong. He's posted 23 official rounds and they have him 55th. 23 rounds is a mere blip as far as his career is concerned...
Oh yeah, we have Tour stars such as John Senden, Robert Allenby and Greg Owen in the top five of your "all important" stat that doesnt lie... Who??
Bottom line is he is a suberb ball striker- if he had a putting stroke worth a sh-t he'd be TW's biggest rival by far.


Quick glance shows three winners in the top twenty- important as all get out though...

Your right not many rounds to go by take a look at 08 he's even worse. Driving accuracy is horrible, GIR he's ok, ball striking give him a C at best. Lets not live in the past instead lets focus on the 09 season. If you want I can talk about how David Duval and Davis Love are the best thing since sliced bread but there not anymore. Face FACTS sergio just isn't an elite pga player. He's had 1 win in 4 years, no majors. If he wants a ton a wins he's going to have to play the Euro Tour. Sergio for the last 4-5 years has been more of a brand then anything else.

Yet he was first in scoring average and fourth on the money list in '08- funny how failed to mention that...

I never said he was an elite player, I merely suggested he is a fantastic ballstriker. If you feel so inclined to talk about DLIII and DD go right ahead- that is completely irrelevant however...
For disclosure purposes, I agree with all who suggest he's a petulant little whiner but that does not take away from the fact that the dude has game. Wish he could find some direction...

[J13]

hogans71, on May 29 2009, 04:49 PM, said:

J13, on May 28 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

hogans71, on May 28 2009, 12:00 AM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

hogans71, on May 27 2009, 06:31 PM, said:

J13, on May 27 2009, 05:26 PM, said:

Just one of many excuses that Sergio throws out. He is being eclipsed by more young players then Paul Casey. Sergio is animated which is the only reason we see him on TV. I don't personally hate sergio I think he's talented but he needs to own up to the fact that he needs to make changes in his swing.

Care to enlighten us? One of the purest strikers of the ball golf has ever seen and THAT'S the part of his game you would like to see changed?

Really? http://www.pgatour.c...nfo/xm.html?158

Stats don't lie, he lacks consistency. Which is either a head issue, a swing/timing issue/ or both. In his case with the amount of potential he has I think it's the latter.

Well... you'd be wrong. He's posted 23 official rounds and they have him 55th. 23 rounds is a mere blip as far as his career is concerned...
Oh yeah, we have Tour stars such as John Senden, Robert Allenby and Greg Owen in the top five of your "all important" stat that doesnt lie... Who??
Bottom line is he is a suberb ball striker- if he had a putting stroke worth a sh-t he'd be TW's biggest rival by far.


Quick glance shows three winners in the top twenty- important as all get out though...

Your right not many rounds to go by take a look at 08 he's even worse. Driving accuracy is horrible, GIR he's ok, ball striking give him a C at best. Lets not live in the past instead lets focus on the 09 season. If you want I can talk about how David Duval and Davis Love are the best thing since sliced bread but there not anymore. Face FACTS sergio just isn't an elite pga player. He's had 1 win in 4 years, no majors. If he wants a ton a wins he's going to have to play the Euro Tour. Sergio for the last 4-5 years has been more of a brand then anything else.

Yet he was first in scoring average and fourth on the money list in '08- funny how failed to mention that...

I never said he was an elite player, I merely suggested he is a fantastic ballstriker. If you feel so inclined to talk about DLIII and DD go right ahead- that is completely irrelevant however...
For disclosure purposes, I agree with all who suggest he's a petulant little whiner but that does not take away from the fact that the dude has game. Wish he could find some direction...

Your right I failed to mention that because I was refuting the point that he's one of the best in the game in terms of ballstriking, not scoring. He's a good player but not a great one and he won't do any damage until he makes some changes in his game mental and physical. I think in the end we all agree sergio needs to mature in the game of golf and except responsibility for his playing.