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#1 User is offline   bunce 

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 03:05 AM

so, tiger woods has finally sacked hank, after claiming hes been playing with a patched together 'band aid' swing where will he go now?
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 03:18 AM

you already have this on other forums, and wheres this proof
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:43 AM

View Postbonneau13, on May 22 2009, 04:18 AM, said:

you already have this on other forums, and wheres this proof


I haven't seen the other threads, but if it is true that Woods left HH, it is very interesting.

I must say, however, I'm slightly doubtful ... Tiger - and the media people at Tiger Inc. - are pretty polished when they make public statements. I can't really see Tiger even thinking he's playing with a "patched together, band-aid swing" ... (indeed, he's said things quite the opposite) ... but even if he was thinking it, it is just not something he'd ever say in public I don't think.

Tiger's had a few coaches over the years. I can see the possibility of a change (indeed, the top golfers do make periodic coaching changes ... not necessarily because anything is wrong, but just because it is good to get a fresh perspective now and then). However, the thought that Tiger would blame a coach for his swing just doesn't seem right. Indeed, at this point, I think HH is used more as a sounding board than anything else.

Still, I'm ready to be proven wrong. The key word being "proven".
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:45 AM

He might have got it from Britain's 'Sun' newspaper. Hardly the most reliable source. However, I think the split was/is inevitable and, given Tiger's mighty wealth, the Sun wouldn't run the risk of being sued, so I actually reckon it's true.

We'll soon find out.

http://www.thesun.co...-out-coach.html
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:46 AM

Excellent news if he has. However with no substantial evidence its barely worth discussing.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:07 AM

Like in the other thread, the Sun isn't exactly the authority in news...just like our Enquirer...
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:10 AM

Did this come to you in a dream or? I have check thegolfchannel.com espn.com and others and no word like this.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:11 AM

at the end of the article, it asks for a reaction to it. i dont know much about journalism, but given the gravity of this sort of story, i tend to think they are simply fishing for readers.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:32 AM

Doesn't seem to hold much water. HH is still up on Tiger's site as the official pair of eyes. I'll believe it when he get taken off of TW's site.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 07:45 AM

as the saying goes " no smoke without fire ".....................
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View PostHCEG1, on May 22 2009, 07:45 AM, said:

He might have got it from Britain's 'Sun' newspaper. Hardly the most reliable source. However, I think the split was/is inevitable and, given Tiger's mighty wealth, the Sun wouldn't run the risk of being sued, so I actually reckon it's true.

We'll soon find out.

http://www.thesun.co...-out-coach.html


Ah, the Sun, home of the Page 3 girls. Right up there with the NYT and WSJ as a source of serious news.

Still, there certainly have been rumors about HH lately. Then again, there were a lot of rumors in 2007 also.

Tiger has seemed a bit out of sorts since he got back. It actually does make sense to switch coaches (something he doesn't do that often). Not sure who he could even consider however ... I doubt he'd go back to Harmon, and most of the other (few) coaches good enough wouldn't seem appropriate. (I can hardly, for instance, see him going to Leadbetter).

Really, IMO, there's a single core issue that has virtually always plagued Tiger ... he's simply terrible off the tee (for someone at that level of golf). I'm sure he's worked at it for countless hours over the years ... he is a real grinder, great at scrambling, and putts under pressure like almost no one that has played the game ...but his driving accuracy number (around 56%) is 148th on tour. And when he misses off the tee, he can often miss by a lot. I can't even imagine how he'd be performing if so many of his second shots weren't miraculous attempts to get out of trouble.

Any coach that could bump up his fairways hit average by even 10% ... well, my goodness.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:44 AM

How can you question a source that also publishes a photo of Paris Hilton playing with her breasts?

http://www.thesun.co...howbiz/bizarre/

That's just good journalism.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 09:47 AM

View Poststage1350, on May 22 2009, 10:44 AM, said:

How can you question a source that also publishes a photo of Paris Hilton playing with her breasts?

http://www.thesun.co...howbiz/bizarre/

That's just good journalism.


Paris Hilton has breasts? :huh:
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:09 AM

View Postbunce, on May 22 2009, 02:05 AM, said:

so, tiger woods has finally sacked hank, after claiming hes been playing with a patched together 'band aid' swing where will he go now?


Zzzzzz....

It would be on TGC scrolling across the bottom or they would even break in with that news. Also, it would be all over the news.. etc .. etc
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:14 AM

Again... When he was knocking down pins with Haney, it was a fine swing. I mean seriously... just give it time and let it play out. Ultimately, as Tiger's shown his dominance with different coaches it's about Tiger and not the person giving him instruction.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:18 AM

There is no evidence yet. This rumour started ages ago.

http://www.stuff.co....ing-coach-split
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:19 AM

who's he going to go with now? that is, if this is true news.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:24 AM

View Posttommyjewell-1994, on May 22 2009, 11:19 AM, said:

who's he going to go with now? that is, if this is true news.


sigh. this thread needs to get closed. i keep checking it to see if any of these new posts are updates with actual factual information and it's greatly distracting me from my work. imma gonna git fired.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:28 AM

Next they're going to report that he was abducted by aliens :man_in_love:
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:32 AM

View Posttommyjewell-1994, on May 22 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

who's he going to go with now? that is, if this is true news.


Sandra Haney
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:41 AM

View Postlittlepingman, on May 22 2009, 09:47 AM, said:

View Poststage1350, on May 22 2009, 10:44 AM, said:

How can you question a source that also publishes a photo of Paris Hilton playing with her breasts?

http://www.thesun.co...howbiz/bizarre/

That's just good journalism.


Paris Hilton has breasts? :huh:


They looked more substantial when viewed through a night vision lens. :one night in Paris:
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:44 AM

View Poststage1350, on May 22 2009, 11:41 AM, said:

View Postlittlepingman, on May 22 2009, 09:47 AM, said:

View Poststage1350, on May 22 2009, 10:44 AM, said:

How can you question a source that also publishes a photo of Paris Hilton playing with her breasts?

http://www.thesun.co...howbiz/bizarre/

That's just good journalism.


Paris Hilton has breasts? :huh:


They looked more substantial when viewed through a night vision lens. :one night in Paris:


you know what always confused me about that video? the fact that there was another video filmed in full, clear, normal lighting that never got any attention. weirrrrrrrrd.

wait, what are we talking about?
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:55 AM

He must have finally talked with Lee Trevino. ;)

On another note, do you think Nike will continue its contract with Haney if/when Tiger and Hank cease to have a professional partnership? Those teachers seem to just companies fairly often, (Rick Smith, Jim MacLean, Faldo schools)

Is Tiger's decision contingent on Charles Barkley's results?
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:06 AM

its simple
Tiger is jealous since Haney is spending so much time with Barkley
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:20 AM

If it was printed in the Sun it has to be true. They're best source for breaking news from the golf world. They always get exclusives long before the Golf Channel so I'm not surprised that they broke this first -- yeah right.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:26 AM

View Poststage1350, on May 22 2009, 10:44 AM, said:

How can you question a source that also publishes a photo of Paris Hilton playing with her breasts?

http://www.thesun.co...howbiz/bizarre/

That's just good journalism.


hehe hehe hehe hehe hehe hehe, I'm sorry stage, I started with a giggle and it turned into a full blown laugh! Now my co workers are looking at me sorta funny.... PS there is a button under the picture that says "enlarge" is that the picture or a hint to Paris?

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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:33 AM

The Sun article itself doesn't even say it's factually true. It just notes the well publicized claim of a harsh-exchange between the two at the Masters, Tiger's comments about his swing troubles, and then some unidentified idiot who assures us Tiger wouldn't say anything but would just show up without HH at the next tourney. It's not like they even cited an anonymous source who claims the break up actually happened -- it's presented as speculation. Nothing to see here that hasn't been speculatively asked on a million internet forums since the Masters and before.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 11:56 AM

So, back to topic,

Does anyone think they won't part company at some stage in Tiger's career? For sure, it will happen...

Did they have a bust-up on the range at ANGC? YES

Has Tiger been quoted as saying he's playing with a 'Band Aid Swing' YES

Is his swing with the driver all over the place? YES

Is he spraying the ball across 2 fairways at times with the big stick? YES

Are many guys on tour saying it's 'when' not 'if' YES

Is his driving worthy of the world's #1 player? Duhhhh!

They will undoubtedly split. Why is it so hard for some to take in?

There's a very good chance that it's already happened
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 05:30 PM

Ok, clearly the Americans have no idea about the wholesome, trustworthy, integrity-filled journalism that The Sun produces day after day. But this story simply MUST be true if they printed it.

If you doubt the honest nature of the paper why not log on to www.thesun.co.uk/superbabes
or read their 'Pope signs up to Facebook' article.

Both truly insightful pieces of journalism that will leave you in no doubt whatsoever about the credibility of the source of the Haney article.

I've also heard rumours that the replacement he will be teaming up with is none other than Setanta Sports' very own Scott Cranfield.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:08 PM

View Postadam1234, on May 22 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

Ok, clearly the Americans have no idea about the wholesome, trustworthy, integrity-filled journalism that The Sun produces day after day. But this story simply MUST be true if they printed it.

If you doubt the honest nature of the paper why not log on to www.thesun.co.uk/superbabes
or read their 'Pope signs up to Facebook' article.

Both truly insightful pieces of journalism that will leave you in no doubt whatsoever about the credibility of the source of the Haney article.

I've also heard rumours that the replacement he will be teaming up with is none other than Setanta Sports' very own Scott Cranfield.



where did you hear this?
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View Postadam1234, on May 22 2009, 06:30 PM, said:

Ok, clearly the Americans have no idea about the wholesome, trustworthy, integrity-filled journalism that The Sun produces day after day. But this story simply MUST be true if they printed it.

If you doubt the honest nature of the paper why not log on to www.thesun.co.uk/superbabes
or read their 'Pope signs up to Facebook' article.

Both truly insightful pieces of journalism that will leave you in no doubt whatsoever about the credibility of the source of the Haney article.

I've also heard rumours that the replacement he will be teaming up with is none other than Setanta Sports' very own Scott Cranfield.


Actually ... even most Americans are aware of what the Sun is ... ;)
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:15 PM

View PostHCEG1, on May 22 2009, 11:56 AM, said:

So, back to topic,

Does anyone think they won't part company at some stage in Tiger's career? For sure, it will happen...

Did they have a bust-up on the range at ANGC? YES

Has Tiger been quoted as saying he's playing with a 'Band Aid Swing' YES

Is his swing with the driver all over the place? YES

Is he spraying the ball across 2 fairways at times with the big stick? YES

Are many guys on tour saying it's 'when' not 'if' YES

Is his driving worthy of the world's #1 player? Duhhhh!

They will undoubtedly split. Why is it so hard for some to take in?

There's a very good chance that it's already happened




Just one more thing to mention since you are so eager to point out how terribly TW is hitting it......TW is leading the tour in scoring average by something like half a stroke. He really is terrible! :lol:

Tim
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:54 PM

View Postmidasmulligan2000, on May 22 2009, 04:43 AM, said:

I must say, however, I'm slightly doubtful ... Tiger - and the media people at Tiger Inc. - are pretty polished when they make public statements. I can't really see Tiger even thinking he's playing with a "patched together, band-aid swing" ... (indeed, he's said things quite the opposite) ... but even if he was thinking it, it is just not something he'd ever say in public I don't think.


You mean like he 'publicly stated' in a post-round interview at the Masters...?
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 06:58 PM

View PostTim Delgado, on May 22 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

Just one more thing to mention since you are so eager to point out how terribly TW is hitting it......TW is leading the tour in scoring average by something like half a stroke. He really is terrible! :lol:

Tim



Tiger's swing and scoring average really aren't all that related. The man is a scoring genius - he finds ways to get the ball in the hole. His swing, at Quail Hollow and Sawgrass, was terrible. He'll be the first to tell you that.

I'm not sure if it's Hank's fault, players just go through funks in their swings - it's inevitable.

His funk is consisting of all top tens and a win, though....
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 08:19 PM

GOLFWEEK also said this is not true, received my copy the other day and just read the article.
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Posted 22 May 2009 - 10:26 PM

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(I can hardly, for instance, see him going to Leadbetter).
Leadbetter hypnotizes players into signing him on. That's his only talent. He's known for totally screwing people up.

If I ran an all-you-can-eat Chinese buffet, and I saw that guy walk in the door, I'd tell him that he couldn't eat there for the fear that he would permanently **** (legitimate use of the word!) the business!
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 01:59 AM

View Postepixep, on May 23 2009, 12:58 AM, said:

View PostTim Delgado, on May 22 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

Just one more thing to mention since you are so eager to point out how terribly TW is hitting it......TW is leading the tour in scoring average by something like half a stroke. He really is terrible! :lol:

Tim



Tiger's swing and scoring average really aren't all that related. The man is a scoring genius - he finds ways to get the ball in the [/b[b]]hole. His swing, at Quail Hollow and Sawgrass, was terrible. He'll be the first to tell you that.

I'm not sure if it's Hank's fault, players just go through funks in their swings - it's inevitable.

His funk is consisting of all top tens and a win, though....


Absolutely. He looks like he's going to shoot 75, but through unreal scrambling, persistence, determination and (usually) some clutch putts, somehow turns it into 69.

His scoring is good, yes, but his swing, at times, looks as bad as it's ever been. Anyone who knows anything about the golf swing can see this. In fact, most 7 year olds can ;)

Peter Jacobsen has labelled him 'The second coming of Severiano Ballesteros'. This is unkind to Seve, as many of his drives into the rough were deliberate to give himself a better angle in to the flag. Tiger, on the other hand, just doesn't have a clue where the ball is going off the tee.
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 02:12 PM

View Postcallawayfan, on May 23 2009, 12:08 AM, said:

View Postadam1234, on May 22 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

Ok, clearly the Americans have no idea about the wholesome, trustworthy, integrity-filled journalism that The Sun produces day after day. But this story simply MUST be true if they printed it.

If you doubt the honest nature of the paper why not log on to www.thesun.co.uk/superbabes
or read their 'Pope signs up to Facebook' article.

Both truly insightful pieces of journalism that will leave you in no doubt whatsoever about the credibility of the source of the Haney article.

I've also heard rumours that the replacement he will be teaming up with is none other than Setanta Sports' very own Scott Cranfield.



where did you hear this?


i most certainly did not hear that. i'm sure scott cranfield is a very good coach but by working for setanta, in my view, he loses all credibility and becomes an object of humour
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Posted 23 May 2009 - 07:47 PM

View PostHCEG1, on May 22 2009, 07:45 AM, said:

He might have got it from Britain's 'Sun' newspaper. Hardly the most reliable source. However, I think the split was/is inevitable and, given Tiger's mighty wealth, the Sun wouldn't run the risk of being sued, so I actually reckon it's true.

We'll soon find out.

http://www.thesun.co...-out-coach.html


Didn't he sue and win against them for publishing photoshopped pictures of his wife... If so seems highly doubtful they are an accurate source of data.

Maybe Barkley is ruining Hanks teaching skills.. Instead of fixing Barkley, he is now teaching Charles swing to his pupils..
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Posted 25 May 2009 - 08:39 AM

View Postadam1234, on May 23 2009, 08:12 PM, said:

i'm sure scott cranfield is a very good coach but by working for setanta, in my view, he loses all credibility and becomes an object of humour


Why?
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