...I'm surprised there has been no mention of Brian's comments, that he is one of the best putters in the world, or something along those lines. Maybe we've already come to expect that of him. On Golfgal's site last week he rolled for more than 25 minutes, barely requiring any questions from Gayle, and assessing every aspect of his game as superior, "I know I can beat you in any way I need to beat you. I'll reach the par 5 in two if I have to, if not I'll chip it in. I'm that type of player."
He's reminding me of the big talker on BB Mesquite(?) I think from San Antonio....A-Rod or something like that?
I liked Big Break Mesquite.. and now we have two promising players from that group playing on the PGA Niteez the New Zeelander and I forgat his name - Mat ? , he played in a Nationwide and was on his way to a 59- he had 10 birdies in 12 holes, and shot a 61 couple of weeks ago.
This new group dont have this talent, IMO. Yup, the elimination round was mor about talk-flirt? then scoring.. as they both had bogeys and doubles.
Hot Chicks - they always sell !
I liked Big Break Mesquite.. and now we have two promising players from that group playing on the PGA Niteez the New Zeelander and I forgat his name - Mat ? , he played in a Nationwide and was on his way to a 59- he had 10 birdies in 12 holes, and shot a 61 couple of weeks ago.
James Nitties is from Australia just to clarify. His season thus far has been impressive for a rookie and I really enjoy watching him play. I feel like I know him more personally in a sense because of watching him on The Big Break, and I think that is more incentive to follow him. Matt Every has got some obvious talent, but I think he needs to work on his mental game in order to get his real big break.
Awsi Dooger, on Apr 28 2009, 12:09 PM, said:
D, on Apr 28 2009, 12:30 PM, said:
Hot Chicks - they always sell !
Slow motion crotch cam is absent so far. Don't tell me we have bashful producers.
Maybe when (if?) the weather warms and the rain gear is absent it will look more like the Big Breaks we're accustomed to.
Funny you mention that. I was watching an LPGA event on TGC the other day with my girlfriend, and she said "No wonder you watch this, they're always zooming in on all these girls' crotches." I actually hadn't really noticed until she said that, but it seems like they are always zooming in to get a look at their grip or their setup position, and low and behold we get a bonus crotch shot. Kinda makes you wonder what jobs these cameramen might have had before working for TGC lol.
...I'm surprised there has been no mention of Brian's comments, that he is one of the best putters in the world, or something along those lines. Maybe we've already come to expect that of him. On Golfgal's site last week he rolled for more than 25 minutes, barely requiring any questions from Gayle, and assessing every aspect of his game as superior, "I know I can beat you in any way I need to beat you. I'll reach the par 5 in two if I have to, if not I'll chip it in. I'm that type of player."
He's reminding me of the big talker on BB Mesquite(?) I think from San Antonio....A-Rod or something like that?
Brian has similar arrogance to A-Rod, but not the low class put downs. A-Rod was defensive and confrontational and having his comments bleeped from the outset. Brian is more self-exhilarated. He reminds me of the cocky kids who I played against in the top junior tournaments, same expression and mannerisms and themes. Agonizing, because they inevitably were able to back it up and beat me by a stroke or two.
BTW, if anyone wants to view the Mesquite episodes, they are uploaded (minus commercials) at the links below, episodes 1-12. I didn't watch Big Break regularly until Ka'anapali so it's interesting to look at a prior version. Those players definitely have a higher skill set than I'm accustomed to seeing on recent Big Breaks. But after watching about half the episodes I can't agree the commentating was superior. Stephanie Sparks is always excellent but the male host could not have been more bland. He didn't understand some less than serious moments were apropos in a setting like Big Break.
I haven't seen the show yet but guys where textin me all nite what he was saying... Knowing brian all i could do was shake my head and chalk it up to brian.... well being brian.
His family is topshelf and I know his father is still a member at GCC. My ex used to tend bar at Greensburg Country Club, and I have been able to interact with his family member off of the course.
One text that I received quoted him saying "his golf game is an artform" or something along those lines. Well, my girlfriend is a phenomenal painter who sells paintings for 3-4k, that is an artform. I am a pinstriper, airbrusher, and graf artist.... and a good artist never likes there own work. What he said doesn't qualify as art, last time i checked it was a sport. If he makes a mistake on the show all these comments he has made are gonna come back to haunt him.
In my opinion his strength on that show very well may be his ego. He loves to have all eyes on him at all times and now the world is watchin, this could push him to excel. Considering I do know him and quite well from many late nite session, he really is a good person. I just wish he would humble himself a little on the show and let his game speak for him, versus what the majority opinion of him is slowly becoming. I have watched his game evolve over the last few yrs as he has been traveling to work with various instructors, it has gotten a lot better. Unfortunately he will always fight his head.
I will just sit back and watch this play out, I wish him all the best.
Sae
gccchamp, on Apr 27 2009, 10:22 AM, said:
Saewickson, I do agree with you statement about letting him defend himself on this board. Please remember that once you go on a show like this, your actions will speak for themselves.
A little background on Brian, I have know him and his family for my entire life, and his. He comes from a very nice family. I have played tournament rounds of golf with him over the years in Western PA. Therefore my statement is not opinion, but what I have first hand witnessed.
I agree with you that he is a good person when he deals in reality. I just don't know why he would go out there and make a fool of himself on national television. When you are a good player, you can go out and prove it, everyone else will compliment your game, you don't need to do it yourself in the 3rd person.
I hope that Bub does not ruin his name and reputation in his hometown.
I saw the statements that he made on the previews for this week. Let me know after you see them how you feel. This is going to be a good one!!!
I haven't seen the show yet but guys where textin me all nite what he was saying... Knowing brian all i could do was shake my head and chalk it up to brian.... well being brian.
His family is topshelf and I know his father is still a member at GCC. My ex used to tend bar at Greensburg Country Club, and I have been able to interact with his family member off of the course.
One text that I received quoted him saying "his golf game is an artform" or something along those lines. Well, my girlfriend is a phenomenal painter who sells paintings for 3-4k, that is an artform. I am a pinstriper, airbrusher, and graf artist.... and a good artist never likes there own work. What he said doesn't qualify as art, last time i checked it was a sport. If he makes a mistake on the show all these comments he has made are gonna come back to haunt him.
In my opinion his strength on that show very well may be his ego. He loves to have all eyes on him at all times and now the world is watchin, this could push him to excel. Considering I do know him and quite well from many late nite session, he really is a good person. I just wish he would humble himself a little on the show and let his game speak for him, versus what the majority opinion of him is slowly becoming. I have watched his game evolve over the last few yrs as he has been traveling to work with various instructors, it has gotten a lot better. Unfortunately he will always fight his head.
I will just sit back and watch this play out, I wish him all the best.
Sae
gccchamp, on Apr 27 2009, 10:22 AM, said:
Saewickson, I do agree with you statement about letting him defend himself on this board. Please remember that once you go on a show like this, your actions will speak for themselves.
A little background on Brian, I have know him and his family for my entire life, and his. He comes from a very nice family. I have played tournament rounds of golf with him over the years in Western PA. Therefore my statement is not opinion, but what I have first hand witnessed.
I agree with you that he is a good person when he deals in reality. I just don't know why he would go out there and make a fool of himself on national television. When you are a good player, you can go out and prove it, everyone else will compliment your game, you don't need to do it yourself in the 3rd person.
I hope that Bub does not ruin his name and reputation in his hometown.
I saw the statements that he made on the previews for this week. Let me know after you see them how you feel. This is going to be a good one!!!
Well, Brian isn't on this forum, but he did have something to say about last night's show in his interview with me today. He was pretty upset about the show's editing. Check it out...
Eugene looked pretty bad in the first episode, but trust me, he has game! This last weekend on the Canadian Tour, he went into the final round tied for the lead. Unfortunately, he shot +1 on Sunday and ended up T4.
Plus he's a really great guy. Humble, polite and not at all full of himself. He has the game and the personality to win this thing if he catches a few breaks.
Brian Skatell is a personal friend of mine, that I have had the pleasure of getting know quite well over the past sevaral years. Although I don't agree with slamming him on a forum like some (quoting he has no game), especially when he is neither a member here nor have the ability to defend his actions....
I will say this... Brian would give a total stranger th shirt off his back, and anyone the time of day. Does he have personality quirks absolutely, we all have nuances that set us apart from everyone else. I have watched him go low on a golf course, but also struggle with the mental side and the occasional swing fault.
BUT... Good, bad, or indifferent. Brian hasn't revealed himself in the least on the show as of yet with only the 1st show airing. For me personally it is gonna be a real treat to see the personality and his game come out as the show proceeds.
You should invite him to join GOLFWRX......I would (I'm sure many would) love to hear his thoughts after each show has aired. I'm especially interested in a contestants take on what "really" happened vs. how the tape was cut by the editors.
He wouldn't be the first Big Breaker on the board.....
Woo
I could have sworn that Justin Peters is a member here and sold a bit on the BST
Thanks for posting. Those posts are almost as good as the show itself
Agreed!! Keep up the good work, Gayle!!!
What did I learn from Brian's interview?? It is what it is................
He did seem quite defensive the first part of the interview though......um Brian, TGC was able to cut and paste all those comments to make you appear to be the "bad guy" because you actually SAID them........sheesh.
Brenda and Kim for the WIN!!!!!! But I think Derek probably has the most skill.
I wonder if TGC does something in the next episode to even up the gender count.....thoughts?
Here is a little insight on the course and the playoff. Mill River is an older course with greens that need a make-over. They are poa with a very heavy thatch . Putting uphill is very difficult . The grain is extremly strong , arguably the toughest 3 footers you can play. Putting in this event may decide the winner. .
The first playoff hole number 11 is a good par three , the green has a heavy slope from right to left with the green being extremly extremly grainy. The tee shot makes you want to hit it right but there is a small landing area. When Football missed right he was dead. Also when he hit that chip to the other side of the green unless you have practiced that putt it is almost impossible to hit that putt hard enough, I knew right away that he was going to three putt.
The second playoff hole number 3 is a long narrow par three, the hole makes you want to hit it at the hill on the left where BRENDA was but if your ball stay's there the green falls away from you with again heavy , heavy grain. The grain can be noticed when football putted and missed by that much. These greens have driven me crazy for years and I have played it many times.
The third play-off hole was interesting to me, for the women that shot plays 110-115 yrds so when she said the clubs again I knew she was going long. Football played a tee that is not in use anymore. I was really surprised , his shot is down hill at least two clubs over water with long being a bogey due the grain in the green, also most shots ususally spin back so hitting it close is really tough.
The guy or girl that can figure the greens will have the advantage also the 7th hole will be a big factor in this event. TIM
He's reminding me of the big talker on BB Mesquite(?) I think from San Antonio....A-Rod or something like that?
Brian has similar arrogance to A-Rod, but not the low class put downs. A-Rod was defensive and confrontational and having his comments bleeped from the outset....
Yes, my comparison was really meant on what edit the producers are giving him.
There's no evidence yet he's an A-Rod type jerk type.
Whats with all the love for the first castoffs?
It's that kinda of attitude that keeps TGC from allowing The Big Break to become what I believe was the purpose of its creation. Giving golfers who possess the skill to make the jump (in an entertaining elimination format) to the next level.
Or maybe its just me? Maybe this is really meant to be a golf soap opera where the story walks hand in hand with the golf.
What I do enjoy though are the first round ko's. Totally deserve to go, along with (usually) the next few send offs.
William and Brenda were terrible. So bad if fact that it reminds me of something a radio show host once said. Simply put - Everyone in life needs a wingman, someone who will never under any circumstances withhold the "truth" from you. "Football" needed a wingman, a buddy who can say to him "No Football you should not go on the Big Break. Why? Because you simply don't have the game to hang with the other competitors. And you know what? You'll probably end up embarrassing yourself."
Now I'm honestly not saying this to be cruel. He seems likable but emotional attachment is not what I'm after. I WANT TO SEE GOOD GOLF SHOTS hit in times of need.
After the second episode I'm totally disappointed in the franchise again.
I'll keep watching though. I gotta find out if that heartthrob Derek hooks up with Nicole - I can't hit a driver 170 yards -Sikora.
Regarding Nicole's driver, I think she said she was taking something off of it to try to guide it into the fairway. I've seen people who can work the ball easier with a less than full swing. I'm pretty sure she can hit her driver farther than 170 yards.
If Sikora can't take something of a full driver and guide it more than 170 yards, she has NO business competing for the tour (LPGA or Futures).
With ladies like Ochoa and Welch on their respective tours guiding a less-than-full-swing driver more than 170 yards and with a short game to boot, Sikora raison-d'etra is simply to serve as eye candy. Nothing more, nothing less.
Which is how I view the Big Break series now - simply eye candy....
Tiger Jr., on Apr 29 2009, 09:11 AM, said:
Regarding Nicole's driver, I think she said she was taking something off of it to try to guide it into the fairway. I've seen people who can work the ball easier with a less than full swing. I'm pretty sure she can hit her driver farther than 170 yards.
Well, I finally was able to connect with William today - we were having some technical phone difficulties over the past few days.
He is such a nice guy. I am so sorry to see him leave. I hope he'll come back and chat with me again. Meanwhile, check out his interview where he shares where his nickname came from, how he felt that day, what he's doing now and what he had to say about Brian.
This Big Break has a handful of pretty good players and should be more entertaining than the last couple Big Breaks.
That is, after the show dispenses with the two remaining clowns. You have one guy who's a complete head case and acts like Woody Austin times four - without a fraction of the ability. Then you've got a secretary who can't hit the ball 170 yards and who probably shoots 79 or 80 on a very good day.
Anyhow, once these two depart (hopefully not long) the show will be left with contestants who have some personality and more importantly - some GAME.
I want Brian to stay cuz I think he's entertaining. I hope Gerina wins the whole thing though
oh yeah, she is the most impressive player out there.
She sure was tonight. It was too bad she was paired against Blair and so her two great shots in round 1 didn't count. You know, those two ladies are really really good!
If they had done the 1st elmination differently (i.e everyone for themselves), Gerina would have been more than safe right up front. But in the end it didn't matter - she still came out on top as she should have.
Any surprises on Kim leaving? I really think she's better than what we saw. But then again, I think a lot of them are better than what they showed tonight - there were a lot of bad tee shots out there...I asked Brenda about it in her interview and she thought it was basically nerves.
But who am I to criticize. I would have been so nervous I probably would have missed my tee time, hurling in my room with nerves!
The marine (Aaron?) and Derek have game on the guy's side. My darkhorse is Eugene. The women are all really talented this time around. Gerina is really good.
Not 100% sure but I think I've practiced and seen the marine play. I think he gets lessons from Tom Creavy at Metrowest here in Orlando. Very solid golf swing.
I have watched this show basically every season, and although there are a handful of guys who really can swing the club, I am so sick and tired after every single decent shot they say "wow, still a very poor shot in my book..." or "I really do expect much more from myself, I play at a much higher level."
Look, there is no doubt that SOME of these players have talent, but seriously, the reason who you probably think it is a poor shot is because IT IS. These guys are doing it the hard way, and I respect that, but some of them seem so full of themselves, and even more so, really very delusional.
Sure it is entertainment value, but for a golf "channel", the show sometimes is really silly.
And lastly, the way they keep carrying on this little love connection between that one dude and the glorified secretary is so fricking stupid. Half of the time someone is like "oh there is your boyfriend" and she is like "ohh I hope he does well". Come on, does anyone else just want to puke? So @#$#@# stupid.
My pick for the ladies is still Gerina. I think she has the game and mental toughness to go all the way. The consensus seems to be that Derek is the Guy to beat, I still have him at the top of my list for the guys but I think Eugene could be the sleeper. Brian is a mental case, call it editing or what have you, but the guy is a mental midget
I have watched this show basically every season, and although there are a handful of guys who really can swing the club, I am so sick and tired after every single decent shot they say "wow, still a very poor shot in my book..." or "I really do expect much more from myself, I play at a much higher level."
Look, there is no doubt that SOME of these players have talent, but seriously, the reason who you probably think it is a poor shot is because IT IS. These guys are doing it the hard way, and I respect that, but some of them seem so full of themselves, and even more so, really very delusional.
Sure it is entertainment value, but for a golf "channel", the show sometimes is really silly.
And lastly, the way they keep carrying on this little love connection between that one dude and the glorified secretary is so fricking stupid. Half of the time someone is like "oh there is your boyfriend" and she is like "ohh I hope he does well". Come on, does anyone else just want to puke? So @#$#@# stupid.
I just got done watching it (DVR is fantastic) and I feel the same way. First off that one guy Brian, I feel like punching him in the face every time he opens that gaping hole in his head he calls a mouth. "If I hit a shot and it's not within 5 feet I am highly disappointed with myself." or something to that extent. Seriously buddy? Unless you are a +10 handicap you cannot be that idiotic to believe all of your shots are going to be that close to the pin. Even then I'm sure Tiger woods doesn't expect every shot to be that close. What a tool.
And don't even get me started on that whole little 'love affair' between those two. When she was talking about him being her 'dream boat' his face was like 'Whoa there psycho chick, you're just a hot lay...' You can almost tell that guy is just using her for the sex then after one of them gets the boot, he will never talk to her again.
But on a side note I do think Gerina is super sexy
That was an absolutely vital result. Kim is fine and seems very nice but the sub plots on this version are so limited right now it couldn't afford an early Brian ouster. Brian can fill 20 minutes every week and chatty Brenda is good for the same. Otherwise we've got a forced soap opera in Nicole/Derek that may not be genuine and probably has limited shelf life, assuming Nicole eventually stumbles in an elimination with actual holes involved.
Tonight was excellent theater with a win/lose/draw scenario for Kim on her approach shot on the 4th elimination hole, but I always have a problem when elimination does not involve holing out.
I'm coming around to Brian. Previous jerk types focused outward and caused problems for other contestants but Brian is pure inner conflict. And fascinating. I just watched the old episodes of Mesquite with A-Rod arguing from the outset then Brian Kontak for no apparent reason choosing to ridicule Gerry late in the series. Lori picked on Christina at Ka'anapali, and Dave repulsed his own partner at Michigan. This Brian is nothing like that. I hope he's around for the duration.
Otherwise:
* Kim was somewhat unfortunate to begin with, when Brenda's yanked approach shot in the immunity challenge caught high on the slope and backpedalled just inside Kim's distance.
* Poor strategy by Derek on the third elimination hole. At 6 points he basically needed anything on the final two holes. The math was wildly in his favor. The fairway or nearby was gold. I was shocked he chose full stick off the tee. Derek is talented but doesn't exude full belief in his game, at least not at the point this series was filmed last September
* Kim hinted at her elimination by using the word "disappointment" when describing the second elimination hole. I've read my dad's stash of psychology books and that specific word is oft summoned when someone fails to land a job or has some type of career setback, but is still self confident and doesn't want to portray the situation as a long term negative. On previous Big Breaks the same word has often been used by contestants in their confessionals or exit interviews. In fact, Robert Read found it after being eliminated first in this series, (paraphrased), "A major disappointment in a day full of disappointments."
* Otherwise, Kim did a good job not giving the result away via facial trauma, unlike many Ka'anapali women. Her eyes weren't overly puffy or red. But notice the producers must have worried about that. They used a somewhat distant view of Kim during her brief clips but as soon as she had been officially eliminated it cut to a full screen closeup shot, revealing her emotions.
I hated to see Kim go, but to me it looked like she was a bucket of nerves all day. I could be wrong, but I don't think she normally cuts off her follow through on every shot like that. She was aiming, not swinging her club.
I hope the next immunity challenge involves Aaron and Brian in the octagon.
Brian, please quit telling us how long you are, how good you are, how mentally involved you are, etc......and just hit your shots. A quiet walk to the safe zone speaks much louder than all your rhetoric. And if this is all an act please note there is only one Don Donatello......
Am I the only one who thought Stina and Charlie did a poor job explaining the first challenge?? I was confused about the whole 3rd shot thing until I watched the first match.
Brian - What a knob/first class wing-nutt. He might rival DD for some of the most off the wall comments.
Some of his quotes thus far (or at least the gist of them):
-"People don't understand the level at which I play" - Clearly, for if we did maybe I'd understand how you landed a job at the Titty performance institute.
-"When my swing is on, it's as good as anyone to ever play the game" - I guess it's not on that often for if it was you wouldn't need a "Big Break" would you?
-"I don't just passively look down the fairway, that'd be like if I want to throw a dart at your face. I pick a target, I'm going to throw that dart at your eye's cornea. Right at the cornea in your eye" - A cornea on someone's face is a small target but after watching him spray it around in teh elimination challenge I'm guessing the "cornea" on a golf course is pretty damm big.
-"If you look at my irons there is a worn out spot right in the center from hitting so many perfect shots" - The only explanation I can think of is you have some hand-me-downs from someone who "broke those in" for you.
-"When I have confidence my game goes to another level" - Well then it's obvious that you haven't had much confidence yet.
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Awsi Dooger, on Apr 28 2009, 01:57 AM, said:
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