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[wing seeker]

Curious to know what guys like Hank Haney charge Tiger Woods or what does Butch Harmon charge
Phil for lessons and onsight tutoring.  Also, do the teachers have to pay travel expenses?
I wonder if it is a yearly fee?

[CosmosMpower]

Always wondered about this as well.  Not like any of the pros would have a problem paying even $500 an hour plus travel expenses making Millions.

[asloper6001]

Yea, my buddies and I were thinking about this one day. Just put it this way, Hank and Harmon really don't need money anymore. Hank probably gets paid millions of dollars just for wearing Nike on the Haney Project alone.

[mhk5000]

At this level I would think it would be a percentage of winnings along with other fringe benefits - X amount to be at the tournament, use of the name for endorsements, providing clinics for top clients etc.

Don't forget the cut the lawyers probably take for drafting the agreement!

[TMfan54]

haney should raelly be payin tiger. he is able to charge so much to amateurs at his ranch and the espn golf academies because he is the #1 player in the world's coach.

[finalist]

I read once that Butch told Adam Scott (I think it was Adam) to pay him whatever he feels his teachings are worth at the end of the year.  Honestly most of the teachers should be paying their PGA students. The name recognition for their respective schools is outstanding. The money will come from the public if they know so and so teaches so and so on the tour. It's no different than Cameron, Taylor made, Prov1 etc paying the Pros to play fitted equipment.

[highergr0und]

I think it really depends on the teacher.  Guys that aren't super marketing machines need to actually get paid.  Although the name escapes me, Harrington's coach in Ireland doesn't run a big school.  I don't even think the guy travels.

[art_vandaley]

highergr0und, on Mar 31 2009, 05:41 PM, said:

I think it really depends on the teacher.  Guys that aren't super marketing machines need to actually get paid.  Although the name escapes me, Harrington's coach in Ireland doesn't run a big school.  I don't even think the guy travels.

It's working ! I watched Harrington for a little while among others, at the range at the Arnold Palmer last weekend and he was incredibly accurate with his woods.  Tiger wasn't too bad either ! Vijay had a interesting little swing alignment drill with a alignment stick and a bottle of water I hadn't seen before.

[wholeinwon]

For the record:  I think Leadbetter charges anywhere from $2000-$4000/lesson his apprentices are making $200-$500/lesson.

I would say it's a percentage of winnings...even 2-5% of winnings from 3,4,5, etc. tour guys adds up after a while not to mention the hundreds of people coming to you because you teach PGA Tour Pro's.

I don't think any of the top 50 instructors are hurting for $ lol.

[glennmaitland]

harringtons coach is bob torrence and yes he just runs a driving range which harrington occasionally visits for a few lessons.
cant say exactly what happens in golf but i'm a tennis coach and coaching very good competition players we will charge only half what we would charge for joe bloggs. being associated with these players means that lots of average players will queue up to pay the full rate for lessons.
Would imagine golf would be similar but with a cut of the players competition earnings

[nlacross]

TMfan54, on Mar 31 2009, 05:02 PM, said:

haney should raelly be payin tiger. he is able to charge so much to amateurs at his ranch and the espn golf academies because he is the #1 player in the world's coach.

I second the above post...  Who the hell was Hank Haney before he started coaching Tiger???  Now the guy has his own TV series on TGC...  Haney should be kissing Tiger's feet.....

[mizunogolf74]

Hank Haney, Butch Harmon, Jim McLean etc. etc. have all done their time. They all have had reputable schools and or "students" on their lists before making it big. Let them get all the money they can.

[JA5ON]

mizunogolf74, on Mar 31 2009, 09:09 PM, said:

Hank Haney, Butch Harmon, Jim McLean etc. etc. have all done their time. They all have had reputable schools and or "students" on their lists before making it big. Let them get all the money they can.

exactly right, they didn't go to the players and solicit, they players found them out
FWIW Haney has been a top 100 teach way before Tiger and so was Butch

[fua1]

art_vandaley, on Mar 31 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

highergr0und, on Mar 31 2009, 05:41 PM, said:

I think it really depends on the teacher. Guys that aren't super marketing machines need to actually get paid. Although the name escapes me, Harrington's coach in Ireland doesn't run a big school. I don't even think the guy travels.

It's working ! I watched Harrington for a little while among others, at the range at the Arnold Palmer last weekend and he was incredibly accurate with his woods. Tiger wasn't too bad either ! Vijay had a interesting little swing alignment drill with a alignment stick and a bottle of water I hadn't seen before.

I saw VJ and the water bottle also. I would have smashed the bottle within 5 swings.

[longballjs]

fua1, on Mar 31 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

art_vandaley, on Mar 31 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

highergr0und, on Mar 31 2009, 05:41 PM, said:

I think it really depends on the teacher. Guys that aren't super marketing machines need to actually get paid. Although the name escapes me, Harrington's coach in Ireland doesn't run a big school. I don't even think the guy travels.

It's working ! I watched Harrington for a little while among others, at the range at the Arnold Palmer last weekend and he was incredibly accurate with his woods. Tiger wasn't too bad either ! Vijay had a interesting little swing alignment drill with a alignment stick and a bottle of water I hadn't seen before.

I saw VJ and the water bottle also. I would have smashed the bottle within 5 swings.

Can you describe what he was doing

[JA5ON]

longballjs, on Mar 31 2009, 09:28 PM, said:

fua1, on Mar 31 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

art_vandaley, on Mar 31 2009, 05:08 PM, said:

highergr0und, on Mar 31 2009, 05:41 PM, said:

I think it really depends on the teacher. Guys that aren't super marketing machines need to actually get paid. Although the name escapes me, Harrington's coach in Ireland doesn't run a big school. I don't even think the guy travels.

It's working ! I watched Harrington for a little while among others, at the range at the Arnold Palmer last weekend and he was incredibly accurate with his woods. Tiger wasn't too bad either ! Vijay had a interesting little swing alignment drill with a alignment stick and a bottle of water I hadn't seen before.

I saw VJ and the water bottle also. I would have smashed the bottle within 5 swings.

Can you describe what he was doing

they set a bottle "empty" just in front of the ball off to the side ever so slightly and use it as a guide or swing plane they either make sure the club passes it on the outside or inside depending on the path they are working on, they also use it as a way to set up where they want the ball to start and if it doesnt start on the line they were trying to they will hit the bottle

ive seen a couple guys do it. some guys like charley hoffman use a fed ex box to stay parallel to the target line longer thru impact

[iteachgolf]

Varies a lot depending on player and coach. Some do percentages and some are a flat rate such as 60k.

[thenation48]

iteachgolf, on Mar 31 2009, 10:57 PM, said:

Varies a lot depending on player and coach. Some do percentages and some are a flat rate such as 60k.

what do you get for the flat 60k?

[blu89hb]

I think I saw during a media interview with Adam Scott they asked him what Butch charges him and Scott said "Nothing, he dosent charge anything"

[iteachgolf]

While I don't work with anyone on the PGA tour the mini tour players I teach pay less than full price. I've been there and know how tight money is. I don't charge teaching pros or club pros.

[Skinflick]

Vijay uses that bottle, like someone else mentioned, to work on that path of his clubhead through impact.  His swing is designed to avoid missing it left/hooking it.  the bottle, located slightly in front and to the outside of his target line, ensures that through impact his club isn't attacking the ball from the inside and going outside.  What he wants is to come into impact pretty darn straight (I'm sure slightly from the inside, and then have the clubhead travel straight down the line.  This causes a straight or slightly fading ball flight.  Straight/fade is basically the only type of shot vijay wants to hit. Allows him to eliminate a side of the golf course and have a larger area for misses etc.  It's really cool to watch

[jaridyard]

I know a professional who is a Bob Torrance student very well, he pays 4% of winnings (which hasn't equated to much recently!) but if Harrington is on the same deal which I believe is the standard for Pro's he teaches, he's doing quite nicely.

Edited by jaridyard, 01 April 2009 - 01:30 PM.

[Josh The Nosh]

Tell you what Jarid ill give you 4% of my winnings if you teach me for free! :P

[FlyFish]

If I was a teaching pro, I'd teach tour players for free.  I can't imagine a better form of marketing for these teachers.

[jaridyard]

Josh The Nosh, on Apr 1 2009, 06:44 PM, said:

Tell you what Jarid ill give you 4% of my winnings if you teach me for free! :P

Include all future lottery, fruit machine and gambling related winnings and....

...I'll think about it  

[bovi]

butch said on tv that he doesnt charge any of his pro students. he leaves them to decide how much to pay him and said the biggest cheque came from Adam Scott.

[scores]

didn't Butch send Tiger a bill at the end of the Year ... ???? I am not sure on this but thought hmmmmmmm..I thought I read this here on this website.

I know guys that work of percentages as well..

I think another big names other Randy Smith do not have a large Junior program unless you have BIG dollars.. The good players are actually someone else's product except maybe Tigar...Butch did bring him along.

Where are the Lee Trevino's, Hogans kids with GUTS .. I tell you I am a not a teaching pro but I do help out the kids around my course that do not have the means.. I am a 1 handicap and played in college by working on a course and did okay..

So I can get there attention fast on the range and try my best to shape there swings into something that will hold up under the gun..

I am saying these may not help some of these kids but man the odds are getting worse and worse for them..

Edited by scores, 01 April 2009 - 08:11 PM.

[wing seeker]

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