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[Putt4doh]

I'm searching for a way to get my spin rate down...right now I'm averaging about 5000rpm's off the tee.  When I toe it on purpose...it brings it down, but that doesn't feel so good.  

Any other suggestions?

[stage1350]

What flex is your NV65 and how much was it tipped?  Also, what ball do you generally use?

[Putt4doh]

Right now, I'm playing a shaft that is really pretty wrong for me.  But I wanted to be sure of whatever changes I'm making.  

I've hit an X flex (275cpm) Accra SE that helped a little but didn't bring me down to the target range.  

I'm playing a ProV1x.  

Is there any shaft out there that has been particularly successful in bringing down the spin rate for high spin players?

[Lowpro]

something low torgue and tip stiff will help..  also maybe a change in ball used..  surprised the SE did'nt do the trick--  very tuff shaft and usually works..  also the sc-75..   lower loft also or another driver type>>  bridgestone j33  is a very low spin driver..  had one for about two weeks now and it produces mid flight rockets.. have the nv 75 in it and really worth a try..
ken,

[joey3108]

at 5000 rpm, i'm almost sure that your launch angle is a bit to much also.

What is your launch angle? and what club and what shaft are you having this 5000 rpm? what is your swing speed? ball speed?

Detail would help us to understand more on what is going on!!!

Joe

[Putt4doh]

Thanks for the replies...

Unfortunately,  my launch angle is ok--usually between 12-13deg.  I try to keep my swing speed in the low 120's to high teens.  I've found it spins much less when I don't go after it as much.  Ball speed is coming off around 155-165mph.  

My numbers are pretty similar with everything out there...I've hit just about everything on a launch monitor (into a range, not a net).   Right now, I'm playing a Callaway 454 and as I type it's being reshafted with an Accra SC75, cyclying at 265.  That shaft w/ those specs seemed to help a bit.  Do you have any other suggestions?  I'm always open to anything that may help.
Thanks.

[joey3108]

Putt4doh, on Jul 1 2005, 07:48 AM, said:

Thanks for the replies...

Unfortunately,  my launch angle is ok--usually between 12-13deg.  I try to keep my swing speed in the low 120's to high teens.  I've found it spins much less when I don't go after it as much.  Ball speed is coming off around 155-165mph. 

My numbers are pretty similar with everything out there...I've hit just about everything on a launch monitor (into a range, not a net).   Right now, I'm playing a Callaway 454 and as I type it's being reshafted with an Accra SC75, cyclying at 265.  That shaft w/ those specs seemed to help a bit.  Do you have any other suggestions?  I'm always open to anything that may help.
Thanks.

1. At the average 120 swing speed, IMO your launch angle should be around 11*.
2. Ball speed should be at 174 to get at least normal 1.45 smash factor.
3. I'm almost sure here that your impact angle is a little to much descending blow.

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all in X and most likely need to be tipped to manipulate the kick point higher, especially on MW74. There are a few other shafts but need to be tipped to get the right kick point to work properly.

However, you need to test a few other deep face driver first w/ lower loft to get the 11* launch angle.

Good luck!

Joe

ps: I remember testing the 8* 454 callaway, It goes pretty high for me. So this is a high hitting and high spin head IMO

[Putt4doh]

Thanks for the info...

When I go down to a 8deg, my launch angle falls off to about 9-10deg's.   I'm afraid that's a little low....am I right?  Also, my ball comes off at 175 or so when I'm swinging above 120.  That's been pretty consistent across club manufacturers.  But then the spin rate gets ridiculous! (6000+).  

Is there a clubhead that you've seen spin's less than another?  I'm willing to try just about anything to get my SR down.  

BTW, I had an Accra SC 75 at 265 cpm's put in my 454.  What do you think of that combo?

[joey3108]

Putt4doh, on Jul 3 2005, 08:12 AM, said:

Thanks for the info...

When I go down to a 8deg, my launch angle falls off to about 9-10deg's.   I'm afraid that's a little low....am I right?  Also, my ball comes off at 175 or so when I'm swinging above 120.  That's been pretty consistent across club manufacturers.  But then the spin rate gets ridiculous! (6000+). 

Is there a clubhead that you've seen spin's less than another?  I'm willing to try just about anything to get my SR down. 

BTW, I had an Accra SC 75 at 265 cpm's put in my 454.  What do you think of that combo?

I wasn't saying you should go to 8*. However if you tried the 8* and you got an 9*-10*, so that means you should try the 9* then to get 10*-11*.

Have you ever check your impact possition angle? It might not be the head, it might be your decending blow that cause the high spin rate.

Accra SC is not a bad shaft at all, THey are all about getting the right feel in your hand and best spec for your swing. IMO I honestly should say that you should try a heavier shaft than 75 gram.

Joe

[Johnny]

6000 is outragous spin.. descending blow for sure.. I'm guilty of the samething from time to time.

[shortgame1]

I would have to agree with the guys on this post that say descending blow at impact. what I would suggest is to check out your tee height, higher if possible and move the ball further towards you front foot to change you angle of attack. this is just a quick fix and I would also get video of your swing to check out your impact position, you may not be staying behind the ball as well. hope this helps, I know I used to have a similar issue about 5 years ago and since then I tee the ball up high ( about 4 inches ) to make sure there is an ascending blow to the ball. my motto is tee it high and let er fly  

[Putt4doh]

Joe...

Is it 'ok' with my ball/swing speed to be below a 12-16 deg launch angle?

I think I'm going to give a 8.5 or 9.5 a shot w/ a Accra SE 80 I just picked up.  It's about 5-6 grams heavier.  Should I have it set up a bit stiffer than what I play now?  I have access to a launch monitor and very good clubuilder, so I can tinker if need be.  

I'll also look into the descending blow theory...I've seen my club at impact (close up from Vector LM) and it doens't appear to be descending...but I've never specifically looked before!  

Thanks for all the input!

[joey3108]

Putt4doh, on Jul 5 2005, 02:34 PM, said:

Joe...

Is it 'ok' with my ball/swing speed to be below a 12-16 deg launch angle?

I think I'm going to give a 8.5 or 9.5 a shot w/ a Accra SE 80 I just picked up.  It's about 5-6 grams heavier.  Should I have it set up a bit stiffer than what I play now?  I have access to a launch monitor and very good clubuilder, so I can tinker if need be. 

I'll also look into the descending blow theory...I've seen my club at impact (close up from Vector LM) and it doens't appear to be descending...but I've never specifically looked before! 

Thanks for all the input!

If your clubbuilder guy is pretty good and have the Vector LM , He should have the chart of what your launch angle supposed to be.

If you are an aggressive swinger and quick tempo, You do need to set it a bit on a stiffer side definitely. A good Clubfitter that knows his products should knows every shafts charracter he is selling and knows how far to tip it to fit your swing profile w/ the charracter of the shaft.

BTW, It's not easy to find a clubfitter that understand and see the problem of your swing. Even a teaching pro some time are hard to find. So try to have a video lesson from a good pro to find out what is going on IMO.

Good luck!

Joe