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#1 joey3108

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:13 AM

Some of you guys asked me before if i could show you guys a step by step process.

Be aware that operating your tool without caution may give you a severe injury.

It looks very easy but if you never tried it, you will never know how hard it is to make them perfect.

Hope this is help some of your questions.

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Grind_wedge.JPG Marking and planning!
Grind_wedge_1.JPG Start slowly on the area that need grinding the most to have some room for mistakes or a slip. Slow but sure is my best advice
Grind_wedge_2.JPG Keep going up slowly and feel your movement along the marking line and the corner area, apply pressure as necessary.
Grind_wedge_3.JPG Keep checking on your weight on how far you are going.
Grind_wedge_4.JPG Rough finish product.
Grind_wedge_5.JPG Flap wheel finishing.
Grind_wedge_6.JPG Check your finish product!


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Posted 05 March 2006 - 01:47 AM

Look's good  Joe, niceee job. :kewlpics: That wedge will lay flat now, won't it. :aggressive: you have to be careful now so you don't hit yourself under the chin with the ball. :angry:

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 02:15 AM

Joe- sure hope OSHA doesn't see these pics...man you shop is a mess..wires everywhere....but Genius survives in chaos!! Great pics and  step by step Joe, thanks josh

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 04:30 AM

Thank you guys!

What can I say, result is more important for me! LOL! :aggressive: In this part of the world having a work shop or 3 car garage is becoming a dream, A dream that hard to come through. :kewlpics:

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 09:21 AM

Joe,
Nice work, your post is exactly what I was looking for!!!  I have a couple of questions.  I see that you have a Craftsman grinder but where did you get the belt attachment and how much?  Is it also Craftsman?  What is a flap wheel?  Is it a nylon wheel?
Tks,
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 09:56 AM

Joe I'm sending you my X-tours... do that aggressive g :kewlpics: rind you were talking about.. :aggressive:
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 12:36 PM

Hi Joe...another great article  :kewlpics: ...I hope you don't mind but you raised a couple of questions in my mind:

1) When you are checking the weight, what is it that you are checking for and why?
2) With respect to the weight, for example, what would you do if it went lower than you wanted? Lead tape?
3) Do you get many requests for wedge porting and how would you go about doing that?

Again, great articles keep them coming...

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 12:57 PM

View PostMetalhead, on Mar 4 2006, 09:15 PM, said:

Joe- sure hope OSHA doesn't see these pics...man you shop is a mess..wires everywhere....but Genius survives in chaos!! Great pics and  step by step Joe, thanks josh


Nice job on the grind Joe.  I always think a clean and tidy shop is one that's not busy! :kewlpics:   I've seen worse but it's funny the clubmaker knows exactly where everything is! :aggressive:

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:17 PM

View Postcjhenry01, on Mar 5 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

Joe,
Nice work, your post is exactly what I was looking for!!!  I have a couple of questions.  I see that you have a Craftsman grinder but where did you get the belt attachment and how much?  Is it also Craftsman?  What is a flap wheel?  Is it a nylon wheel?
Tks,
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THe belt attachment is an after market attachment. Like the one on golfworks catalog:

http://www.golfworks...p_Q_pn_E_MT1001

Flap wheel or deburing wheel should do ok for finishing touch.

http://www.golfworks...asp_Q_pn_E_CPMW

I can't find the link of flap sander, sorry!

Joe

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:26 PM

View Postrgjusa, on Mar 5 2006, 09:36 AM, said:

Hi Joe...another great article  :kewlpics: ...I hope you don't mind but you raised a couple of questions in my mind:

1) When you are checking the weight, what is it that you are checking for and why?
2) With respect to the weight, for example, what would you do if it went lower than you wanted? Lead tape?
3) Do you get many requests for wedge porting and how would you go about doing that?

Again, great articles keep them coming...
1. You need to know how far you are going to and how much room you have before you went to far and ruin the weight from the intended swing weight you are trying to get. Some of us don't like the look of lead tape inb the back of the club.
2. Depends how far you loose the weight and what sw you are trying to get.
3. Not that many! Because porting is gonna loose around 2-3 swing weight and porting is a way to alter the CG to have a better control on your ball flight and replace the lost weight by putting lead tape on the high side on the back of the club. Ussually by changing the shaft to a 36.5" special wedge shaft are enough already. This shaft is slightly stiffer by the tip for better flight control.

To grind is not that hard but to grind it correctly w/ the right type of grind to match the right swing and style of play is not easy IMO.

JOe


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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:31 PM

View Postpitbull808, on Mar 5 2006, 09:57 AM, said:

View PostMetalhead, on Mar 4 2006, 09:15 PM, said:

Joe- sure hope OSHA doesn't see these pics...man you shop is a mess..wires everywhere....but Genius survives in chaos!! Great pics and  step by step Joe, thanks josh


Nice job on the grind Joe.  I always think a clean and tidy shop is one that's not busy! :aggressive:   I've seen worse but it's funny the clubmaker knows exactly where everything is! :angry:
You are making it sounds like a Chinese Restaurant. LMAO :kewlpics:

IF the restaurant is not busy and a little dirty, that means the food is not fresh and taste is not good.

YOu got that right! when you are in my shop...don't touch anything or else i'm gonna have a hard time finding it.

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:31 PM

View PostJohnny, on Mar 5 2006, 06:56 AM, said:

Joe I'm sending you my X-tours... do that aggressive g :kewlpics: rind you were talking about.. :aggressive:
Anytime Johnny Boy! :angry:

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:40 PM

View Postjoey3108, on Mar 5 2006, 06:31 PM, said:

View PostJohnny, on Mar 5 2006, 06:56 AM, said:

Joe I'm sending you my X-tours... do that aggressive g :kewlpics: rind you were talking about.. :aggressive:
Anytime Johnny Boy! :angry:
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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:48 PM

Joe,
Is your attachment the one from Golfworks or is it a Craftsman attachment that I can get at Sears?
It looks like it's high quality from the pictures.
Tks,
Chris

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:56 PM

Nice of you to show your craft!!

In regards to grinding.
What grit do you use?
Do you start with a coarse grit and  finish up with a finer grit?


THANKS!!


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Posted 05 March 2006 - 08:05 PM

View Postcjhenry01, on Mar 5 2006, 04:48 PM, said:

Joe,
Is your attachment the one from Golfworks or is it a Craftsman attachment that I can get at Sears?
It looks like it's high quality from the pictures.
Tks,
Chris
You should see it clear the link on my last post! It's an after market type of attachment that you can buy it from golfworks.

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 08:10 PM

View Postdoublenuts, on Mar 5 2006, 04:56 PM, said:

Nice of you to show your craft!!

In regards to grinding.
What grit do you use?
Do you start with a coarse grit and  finish up with a finer grit?


THANKS!!
Depending on your skill level IMO

The coarser the faster it grinds but the harder to control it and the easier to make mistakes that you can't go back at all.

Me myself can go straight in w/ an 80 grid and finish it up w/ a flap wheel 150 grid and sometime finish it up a step further w/ deburing wheel for a really nice finish ( mostly for putter work ).

And sometime for stainless steel or titanium head, i could go w/ a media tumbler to get a certain look of finish.

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 09:51 PM

OK THANKS!!

Great info.

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 12:15 AM

View Posticantthinkofaname, on Mar 5 2006, 08:00 PM, said:

Looks like you have a nice little shop going on there.
Thanks!


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Posted 06 March 2006 - 09:26 AM

Joe,
Is that an 80 grit 2" x 36" belt?  It looks a little wider than 2".
Also how would you do a P Grind?  Would you use the edge of the belt or would you use an angle grinder?


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Posted 06 March 2006 - 12:28 PM

great post Joe, this might be a stupid questions but is it posible to grind your wedges with sandpaper ?

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 12:55 PM

View Postcjhenry01, on Mar 6 2006, 06:26 AM, said:

Joe,
Is that an 80 grit 2" x 36" belt?  It looks a little wider than 2".
Also how would you do a P Grind?  Would you use the edge of the belt or would you use an angle grinder?
YES to both questions.

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 12:56 PM

View Poststickman, on Mar 6 2006, 09:28 AM, said:

great post Joe, this might be a stupid questions but is it posible to grind your wedges with sandpaper ?
Possible but it'll take you forever and lots of elbow grease.

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 01:35 PM

If any of you are interested in the JET tool JK is using.

There are a couple of the 6" version on EBAY at $219 down from 279.


Check it!

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 01:44 PM

View Postjoey3108, on Mar 6 2006, 12:55 PM, said:

View Postcjhenry01, on Mar 6 2006, 06:26 AM, said:

Joe,
Is that an 80 grit 2" x 36" belt?  It looks a little wider than 2".
Also how would you do a P Grind?  Would you use the edge of the belt or would you use an angle grinder?
YES to both questions.

Joe

Edge of belt or Angle grinder?


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Posted 06 March 2006 - 01:51 PM

View Postdoublenuts, on Mar 6 2006, 10:35 AM, said:

If any of you are interested in the JET tool JK is using.

There are a couple of the 6" version on EBAY at $219 down from 279.  


Check it!

I'm not sure if that one is rubber padded wheel.

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 01:53 PM

View Postcjhenry01, on Mar 6 2006, 10:44 AM, said:

View Postjoey3108, on Mar 6 2006, 12:55 PM, said:

View Postcjhenry01, on Mar 6 2006, 06:26 AM, said:

Joe,
Is that an 80 grit 2" x 36" belt?  It looks a little wider than 2".
Also how would you do a P Grind?  Would you use the edge of the belt or would you use an angle grinder?
YES to both questions.

Joe

Edge of belt or Angle grinder?
Rough cut w/ a stone grinder, the edge of the belt, drum sander and finishing touch w/ block sander.

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 06:36 PM

A little off topic, but could you use the flap wheel to remove the BV wings from the muscle?

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 06:41 PM

View PostSteveG673, on Mar 6 2006, 03:36 PM, said:

A little off topic, but could you use the flap wheel to remove the BV wings from the muscle?
You'll put a big cave in hole in there!

You can just asked a welder to weld it and sand it down after.

JOe

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 09:43 PM

Joe,

My wedge looks GREAT I can't wait to try it.


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