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My first Blackening


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#1 Brando5105

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 05:37 PM

Well I got bored today and decided to try out my new blackening solution for Stainless on my Ping Tour Wedge. I think it turned out pretty good for a first try. The longer I had it in the solution the more blue it became. Let me know what you think

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 05:47 PM

What was the solution?  Where did you get it?  Can that solution be used on all cast clubs?  How did it affect the plastic insert in the wedge?

Thank you,

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 05:50 PM

 ball game, on Dec 16 2008, 06:47 PM, said:

What was the solution? Where did you get it? Can that solution be used on all cast clubs? How did it affect the plastic insert in the wedge?

Thank you,

Ball Game


Its called Stainless Steel Blackener 370 from Caswell Inc. It is used for SS only. It did nothing to the plastic insert in the back
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Posted 16 December 2008 - 11:46 PM

Would this stuff work on my Titleist 704 CBs even though they are forged and not cast?

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Posted 16 December 2008 - 11:49 PM

Very nice Brandon!  I have been using it for a couple of years and love it.

It works on stainless or carbon steel.  It will blacken carbon steel VERY black.


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Posted 16 December 2008 - 11:54 PM

Where is a good place to find this stuff?  Do I just sit the clubs in it or do I need to do any prep work?

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 12:07 AM

I order online from Caswell Plating.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 12:16 AM

Thanks DS!

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:01 AM

 Deerslayer, on Dec 17 2008, 12:07 AM, said:

I order online from Caswell Plating.
do you think this would look good on my rac mb tps? they have thsoe two little "pockets" on the  back and are forged? would it be dark black? mat black? does it stay the sme color? wear off? crack? any info would be great, thanks.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 02:20 AM

 Deerslayer, on Dec 17 2008, 12:49 AM, said:

Very nice Brandon! I have been using it for a couple of years and love it.

It works on stainless or carbon steel. It will blacken carbon steel VERY black.


Thanks for the additional information. Looks like I am headed to get some clubs to practice on

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 03:08 AM

Nice finish Brando.  
Get out and hit a few balls so we can see what the wear is like.  
I would like to blacken my Rife GR6 Aussie with something like that.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 05:52 AM

That's a great finish. Here's a link to the European site as they don't ship internationally.

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 06:13 AM

DS would this stuff be okay to do nike pro combo forged irons?

Any help would be great as i can get this in the UK.


Also how much would be required to do a full set?


Thanks,

Liam

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 08:41 AM

It wont do chrome.  It can ruin chrome, but not blacken it properly.  Caswell is in Florida, so they do ship here, there website seems to be having trouble right now.

There are all kinds of tricks to make is come out perfect.  A couple of KEY points.
A pint of each, HCL (muratic acid) and 307 Stainless Steel blackener will last for more clubs than you can think to do unless you are doing hundreds
To make a proper dipping container, you want something thin and tall to get up hosels of wedges and putters.
I found that a plastic quart motor oil container with the top 1/3 cut off works perfect.  I made two of them.  A pint of solution fills it up enough and a putter or wedge or any club that is not a mallet will fit perfectly.  Make one for acid, one for blackener

If I were doing a full set, get a good degreaser/prep for the heads. I use acetone, but Caswell makes a very good cleaner degreaser.
Make sure the head is perfectly clean, dont even get a fingerprint on the head before dipping......it will show.
Tape up the shaft with electrical tape tight to the hosel. Prolonged exposure can damage the chrome.
HCL, or muratic acid (swimming pool acid) should be done when wanting a deep darker long lasting color
Dip the head in acid for about a minute or two, remove and rinse with water.
Dip the head in the blackener solution, leave it for a minute or two.
When you dip it, leave it for a minute, and pull it out and inspect closely. If there are ANY small spots that dont seem to be blackening due to a bubble or something, use a exacto blade or some other sharp metal instrument to lightly rub that area WHILE the solution is on the area.  It will blacken before your eyes.
After dipping for a minute or two, remove the head and very lightly rub (while solution is still on it) the head.  Instantly dip it again and repeat as necessary.  By using the steel wool, you will get an even color and hue that lasts longer.
I use the solution at full strength, not diluted at all.
After your final dip, remove and rinse
Wipe down the head with a paper towel
After doing a paintfill or if no paintfill you need to oil treat the head. I have found that 2 stroke motor oil that is blue actually enhances the look. I have a cap that I just dip the corner of a rag or your finger in the blue oil and wipe the head. I let the oil soak on the head for an hour or so and repeat.  Once it has set for an hour or overnight is even better, wipe the heads dry with towel.  They will be a beautiful dark blue/black/grey
I do the same to carbon wedges and they blacken much darker and much faster than SS
Happy Blackening!
Here is a link to the Caswell page;
Caswell 307 Stainless Steel Blackener

Edited by Deerslayer, 17 December 2008 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 17 December 2008 - 11:56 AM

Thanks for your help, I will definately be trying this over the winter. If you are working with the iron shafted how concerned should you be about damage to the ferrule from the HCL?


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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:33 PM

neither will effect the ferrule at all.  I wrap electrical tape up from the ferrule a couple of inches to protect  the chrome

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 01:49 PM

aww crap, now im gonna have to try this, geepers!

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Posted 17 December 2008 - 05:00 PM

Beauty they have an Australian agent as well

http://australia.cas...l-blackener-370


I can see my Rife Aussie getting the black treatment for sure and my Cally X Forged 52* wedge....rust doesn't appeal to me.

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 09:34 AM

 Deerslayer, on Dec 17 2008, 08:41 AM, said:

It wont do chrome.  It can ruin chrome, but not blacken it properly.  Caswell is in Florida, so they do ship here, there website seems to be having trouble right now.

There are all kinds of tricks to make is come out perfect.  A couple of KEY points.
A pint of each, HCL (muratic acid) and 307 Stainless Steel blackener will last for more clubs than you can think to do unless you are doing hundreds
To make a proper dipping container, you want something thin and tall to get up hosels of wedges and putters.
I found that a plastic quart motor oil container with the top 1/3 cut off works perfect.  I made two of them.  A pint of solution fills it up enough and a putter or wedge or any club that is not a mallet will fit perfectly.  Make one for acid, one for blackener

If I were doing a full set, get a good degreaser/prep for the heads. I use acetone, but Caswell makes a very good cleaner degreaser.
Make sure the head is perfectly clean, dont even get a fingerprint on the head before dipping......it will show.
Tape up the shaft with electrical tape tight to the hosel. Prolonged exposure can damage the chrome.
HCL, or muratic acid (swimming pool acid) should be done when wanting a deep darker long lasting color
Dip the head in acid for about a minute or two, remove and rinse with water.
Dip the head in the blackener solution, leave it for a minute or two.
When you dip it, leave it for a minute, and pull it out and inspect closely. If there are ANY small spots that dont seem to be blackening due to a bubble or something, use a exacto blade or some other sharp metal instrument to lightly rub that area WHILE the solution is on the area.  It will blacken before your eyes.
After dipping for a minute or two, remove the head and very lightly rub (while solution is still on it) the head.  Instantly dip it again and repeat as necessary.  By using the steel wool, you will get an even color and hue that lasts longer.
I use the solution at full strength, not diluted at all.
After your final dip, remove and rinse
Wipe down the head with a paper towel
After doing a paintfill or if no paintfill you need to oil treat the head. I have found that 2 stroke motor oil that is blue actually enhances the look. I have a cap that I just dip the corner of a rag or your finger in the blue oil and wipe the head. I let the oil soak on the head for an hour or so and repeat.  Once it has set for an hour or overnight is even better, wipe the heads dry with towel.  They will be a beautiful dark blue/black/grey
I do the same to carbon wedges and they blacken much darker and much faster than SS
Happy Blackening!
Here is a link to the Caswell page;
Caswell 307 Stainless Steel Blackener

Hey DS, which one is it on the Caswell page?  Is it the black oxide treatment or is it the stainless steel blackener 370?

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Posted 18 December 2008 - 03:43 PM

Blackener

That is the link you used I assume?  How much did you buy?  Is it recyclable for multiple uses?


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Posted 18 December 2008 - 05:22 PM

I bought the stainless one. It is reusable after many uses
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Posted 22 December 2008 - 07:51 AM

Do you buy and use just the stainless blacking agent? Has anyone tried blacking steel after torching or vice versa? just wondering what effects might occur?

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Posted 22 December 2008 - 10:37 AM

So this does not work on forged clubs right?  I have a set of scratch wedges that i would like to re-finish.  The black finish is wearing off from use.  I wonder if this blackening process would work for my wedges...

And does anyone know if the TM Rac z groove wedges are SS or Carbon steal?

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 06:50 PM

I have White Hot Tour Rossie and I was wondering if I would have to cover the insert or the weights on the bottom. Also I have Cleveland CG 14 wedges, do you think that the solution would restore the black finish that I love and bought them for? And if so would I have to cover the yellow insert?   Any response would be great!

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Posted 08 January 2009 - 07:29 PM

Here are a few pictures of some Bridgestone GC Mids that I blackened about a year ago.  They end up lighter, but still a dark "smoke" grey finish...and there's no maintenance.

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 01:11 AM

So how do you clean, do you strip paintfill before applying and I'm guessing this would work good on 431-1 stainless???

I happen to have a spare set of Golfsmith P2 heads that could use a refinish. Please Help educate me on this process.

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 01:15 AM

The stainless blackener sounds like a snap?

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 11:56 PM

Look up a few posts and you'll see full instructions....what I did was very close to that.

As far as stripping paintfill, the acid and blackener won't react with the paint...so it won't be affected..feelfree to leave it.

It IS a snap...much easier than even the description above sounds
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 08:40 AM

WOW, that does look really good!

I just started a story on changing the color on wedges...read it here...

http://www.golfwrx.c...d-enoughpart-1/

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 02:10 PM

Hey guys, where would be the best place for me to find the Muratic Acid and Acetone?  Will Home Depot or Lowes maybe have these in stock?  About how much do they run?

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