[gandor]

ok...im a bit confused which one to follow. here are some scenarios...

my home course first tee is right next to the range.
- i hit my first shot off the tee
- my ball went to the driving range area which means i cant hit it from there but i can see my ball.
Q: is this ob and hit another ball from the tee?

next, first shot goes to the range area but can't find the ball but its obvious it went there.
Q: is this lost ball or ob?

next, very tight fairway and pretty much if it goes outside of the fairway there's no way to find or hit your ball.
- first and second shot went outside the fairway
Q: play your third ball at the same distance inside the fairway where the ball went outside?

[klaymon]

1) If it is marked OB, you are 3 on the tee.

2) Largely irrelevant as the penalty is the same. Is it marked OB? Then it is OB. If not, it is lost. Strokes lost is the same. 3 from the tee.

3) No. Balls are lost and a 3rd ball is played from the original location. If both balls lost are from the tee, you are sitting 5 on the tee.

OB and lost carry the same penalty and have the same solution. Take a penalty stroke and hit from the original location.

[gandor]

klaymon, on Nov 7 2008, 01:31 PM, said:

1) If it is marked OB, you are 3 on the tee.

2) Largely irrelevant as the penalty is the same. Is it marked OB? Then it is OB. If not, it is lost. Strokes lost is the same. 3 from the tee.

3) No. Balls are lost and a 3rd ball is played from the original location. If both balls lost are from the tee, you are sitting 5 on the tee.

OB and lost carry the same penalty and have the same solution. Take a penalty stroke and hit from the original location.

so basically same penalty and same procedure(go back and hit from the original spot)?

[klaymon]

Correct.

[bigred90gt]

gandor, on Nov 7 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

ok...im a bit confused which one to follow. here are some scenarios...

my home course first tee is right next to the range.
- i hit my first shot off the tee
- my ball went to the driving range area which means i cant hit it from there but i can see my ball.
Q: is this ob and hit another ball from the tee?

I have a question about this. If a driving range is not marked with white stakes signifying OB, is there a rule that says you cannot hit from the range, even if you can clearly see your ball? Would this be a local rule, or a USGA rule?

I ask because a course I play frequently, the #1 and #10 are on opposite sides of the range, and it is not uncommon for me or my playing partners to hit a hook or slice into the edge of the range. There are no stakes defining the range as OB, and I have never heard of a rule that states it is, so I am curious after reading this thread.

[jaskanski]

I think it would be probably written on the card of the course whether or not play is permissable form the range ( local rule). Due to implications of playing from within an active range, I would say not. Unless there is a designated drop zone, it would probably have to be treated as OB.

[dukedsp]

If it is not marked as OB or indicated on the scorecard as OB and you can identify it as your ball, then you can hit it.

[dukedsp]

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1) If it is marked OB, you are 3 on the tee.

2) Largely irrelevant as the penalty is the same. Is it marked OB? Then it is OB. If not, it is lost. Strokes lost is the same. 3 from the tee.

3) No. Balls are lost and a 3rd ball is played from the original location. If both balls lost are from the tee, you are sitting 5 on the tee.

OB and lost carry the same penalty and have the same solution. Take a penalty stroke and hit from the original location.

Actually

1) sitting 2 (hitting 3) on the tee

2) sitting 2 (hitting 3) on the tee

3) sitting 4 (hitting 5) on the tee