[GolfDrillGuru]

Stack & Tilt Swing Vs. Conventional Swing I’ve read countless articles regarding both swing types and I must say I’m partial to the conventional swing type. Much like the current election, I find the pro stack and tilt articles use false generalizations about the conventional swing to gain popularity. Both swing techniques can be [...]http://thegolfdrillg...m/nfblog/?cat=1

[dana dahlquist]

GolfDrillGuru, on Oct 26 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

Stack & Tilt Swing Vs. Conventional Swing
I’ve read countless articles regarding both swing types and I must say I’m partial to the conventional swing type. Much like the current election, I find the pro stack and tilt articles use false generalizations about the conventional swing to gain popularity. Both swing techniques can be [...]

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Use false generalizations about the conventional swing to gain popularity?

I would not say that as being really true. The issue is when some teacher states that the right leg has to remain flexed, as an example. That is a false generalization in its self. Trevino to Watson all had degrees of the right leg having loss of flex. If you look back at the old pictures you will see that. Yes they all were hitting balls on separate lines and curves but that is what is different.
Another deal is Norman was maybe one of the best drivers in the game. He had more extension of the spine at impact than let’s say later in his game as his stats got worse. He became more rotational after impact making for more curve on the ball than he did in his prime. The same thing Faldo got the pictures to prove it too.

That’s the deal they are trying to state. Its not that it’s a new thing. However it’s a situation where you look for what has worked in the past of the golfing greats and take what measures work for the particular player. It’s never a cookie cutter, one fits all situation…

[clearwater]

dana dahlquist, on Nov 4 2008, 07:06 PM, said:

GolfDrillGuru, on Oct 26 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

Stack & Tilt Swing Vs. Conventional Swing
I've read countless articles regarding both swing types and I must say I'm partial to the conventional swing type. Much like the current election, I find the pro stack and tilt articles use false generalizations about the conventional swing to gain popularity. Both swing techniques can be [...]

http://thegolfdrillg...m/nfblog/?cat=1

Use false generalizations about the conventional swing to gain popularity?

I would not say that as being really true. The issue is when some teacher states that the right leg has to remain flexed, as an example. That is a false generalization in its self. Trevino to Watson all had degrees of the right leg having loss of flex. If you look back at the old pictures you will see that. Yes they all were hitting balls on separate lines and curves but that is what is different.
Another deal is Norman was maybe one of the best drivers in the game. He had more extension of the spine at impact than let's say later in his game as his stats got worse. He became more rotational after impact making for more curve on the ball than he did in his prime. The same thing Faldo got the pictures to prove it too.

That's the deal they are trying to state. Its not that it's a new thing. However it's a situation where you look for what has worked in the past of the golfing greats and take what measures work for the particular player. It's never a cookie cutter, one fits all situation…

Well said DANA!!!! S&T unfortunately wasn't named This is how everyone should try to play golf, but it should have. NEVER EVER a cookie cutter!!

[BigLeftyinAZ]

If Stack and Tilt was so great more pros would be using it.Unfortunately one of there better players just jumped ship

[dana dahlquist]

Your right, do you know why? because S&T won him two tour events and saved his card. Too bad he got to a point were he would not work on his swing they was he was told too. Things like setting up right to the ball is a factor if your going to play day in and day out.

[Tiltswing]

BigLeftyinAZ, on Apr 8 2009, 09:12 PM, said:

If Stack and Tilt was so great more pros would be using it.Unfortunately one of there better players just jumped ship

Wow, infallible logic. The S&T'ers are not claiming to teach a method that will instantly remove all swing faults or any other such nonsense. S&T is a solid swing pattern and has allowed lots of guys to win tournaments and strike the ball well. I really don't understand what makes you and the other S&T bashers believe there is something wrong with the method. Please present an argument that actually involves S&T mechanics and a critique of said mechanics, because the "If it was so great" argument is very far off from a substantial criticism.

[jools78]

Don't know about tour players but I took up StackandTilt and cut my handicap from 18 to 10 in one year. The SandT took all my "swing flaws" and made them work.
As far as I am concerned, it worked for me great!
cheers

[mystic]

GolfDrillGuru, on Oct 26 2008, 11:37 PM, said:

Stack & Tilt Swing Vs. Conventional Swing

why is there a distinction, like black and white?


Stack & Tilt VS. Behind & Flip (or wack and wilt)

Many patterns work, so why can't we name Vijay's swing Bend & Throw?

Or Furyk's move: Loop & Turn?

Its just a name applied to a swing. I think if we were to discuss the positives to optmizing DIstance AND DIrection, we would come up with some of the major pieces in S&T, and make some of you traditionalist question what you're been told for years. For those of you that Haven't questioned what you have been told should check yourself to see if you're a leader or a follower

"keep you head down"
"get behind the ball"
"rotate your arms"
"release the club"
"keep your left arm straight"
"transfer your weight to the front"

most of these statements by themselves are crap which may be why golfers as a whole aren't improving. Maybe the boys actually are "re-inventing golf" and Brandle accidentally said something with merit.

[eightiron]

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[iteachgolf]

eightiron, on Jun 7 2009, 11:12 AM, said:

GolfGetsDrilledGuru

hahahaha nice eight

[Asleep]

Looks like another attempt to drive internet traffic to a personal website/off GolfWRX.

There's a term the kids use for this, but I forget what it is.

Seems to be popping up more & more lately.

[LOVE_NaYeonChoi]

Asleep, on Jun 7 2009, 01:14 PM, said:

Looks like another attempt to drive internet traffic to a personal website/off GolfWRX.

There's a term the kids use for this, but I forget what it is.

Seems to be popping up more & more lately.

Advertising? Lol

[MacBooky]

Eh .... what is a Golfdrillguru anyway?

[Hasone33]

This is very interesting topic as I have played golf for appx 30 years, I am 38 years old. I am a self taught, feel player, that doesnt have a "perfect swing", actually what is a perfect swing? I had heard of this stack and tilt but never really looked into it. I currently play to a somewhere around scratch and always work on my swing eventhough I know it varies. I try to go with the flow and as long as I know where the ball is going and what trajectory it is on, I am satisfied. I dont really care what it looks like.

I live and grew up in West Texas where the wind likes to blow, so you have to learn how to it a low draw, or at least have the shot in your bag,if you want to score out here. I continually work on how to hit all the shots, so I can be a more complete player. I have a difficult time hitting some high shots and realized that most of my weight at setup and throughout the swing was on my left side. This led me to read about this stack and tilt idea. As I was reading I was pleasantly surprised that almost everything involved was already incorperated in my swing minus a small degree of tilt.

So the swing that has been akward but usually creates solid contact with a penetrating mid trajectory draw and has led me to multiple club championships is for the most part the stack and tilt. So I guess I was doing the stack and tilt years before it was called the stack and tilt.

Funny game but interesting to see how people view the swing.

Cheers, Jason

[Asleep]

This is an old topic.

Let's start anew.