[Freddy300]

I guess it does not really count. I was playing today and came pretty close on two par 3's. I was within 5 feet of the cup.

Do you call the rangemaster?

[BDLz]

Look around for the greenskeeper like the kid in the Pepsi Commercial.......

BDLz

[tec333]

yeah but then you have to buy him a drink.

i've had it really close twice, one was from about 180 and it stopped 1-2 inches short - i was playing with my wife.

the other time i was out with my wife and the marshal happened to stop at the tee box and was chatting with us. tee box was elevated so it was really nice watching this shot almost go in. the marshal watched me tee off and hit the pin from about 150. he even walked up to the green to look at the ball mark to see where it landed.

not sure why you would need a witness, unless the course records how many hole-in-ones there have been for those holes...

[mjc694]

a round played by yourself, I dont believe counts, period. If you make a hole in one on your own with no one to see it.....you will always know that you made one, but likely others wont believe you (the world is full of people who lie on this subject), and even if they do....it will be strictly faith.

Just hope that when you make one, you are with someone on THAT day.

[chewey15]

I made a double eagle playing one night by myself.

[arkstorm]

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?

Sort of the same question, no?

[JDorfler]

I hit hole in ones all the time. Usually with my brothers with me. I don't see the big deal. Putt Putt is easy to hole out.

[matthewb]

mjc694, on Jul 14 2008, 09:33 AM, said:

a round played by yourself, I dont believe counts, period. If you make a hole in one on your own with no one to see it.....you will always know that you made one, but likely others wont believe you (the world is full of people who lie on this subject), and even if they do....it will be strictly faith.

Just hope that when you make one, you are with someone on THAT day.

Rounds played alone count.

Here's the USGA Handicap Decision:

Quote

5-1a/2. Score Made When Playing Alone

Q: If a player plays alone, should the score be returned for handicap purposes?

A: Yes, provided the round is played in accordance with the Rules of Golf.

[SPY ZINGER]

BDLz, on Jul 13 2008, 10:36 PM, said:

Look around for the greenskeeper like the kid in the Pepsi Commercial.......

BDLz

It's a USGA commercial!

[mjc694]

matthewb, on Jul 14 2008, 09:56 AM, said:

mjc694, on Jul 14 2008, 09:33 AM, said:

a round played by yourself, I dont believe counts, period. If you make a hole in one on your own with no one to see it.....you will always know that you made one, but likely others wont believe you (the world is full of people who lie on this subject), and even if they do....it will be strictly faith.

Just hope that when you make one, you are with someone on THAT day.

Rounds played alone count.

Here's the USGA Handicap Decision:

Quote

5-1a/2. Score Made When Playing Alone

Q: If a player plays alone, should the score be returned for handicap purposes?

A: Yes, provided the round is played in accordance with the Rules of Golf.

is that a recent change? Thanks for the info.

[Bomb and Gouge]

I actually had a hole-in-one at my home course when I was playing alone. I told the people in the shop and they treated it as they would any other hole-in-one.

Golf is a gentleman's game...and if you lie about stuff like that, you're only hurting yourself.

[xan_user]

I guess I should ask the guy that insisted I play through rather than join me cause he wanted to play solo.

Two holes later I hear a loud scream from behind me, I thought he had gotten stung by a bee or something. Later in the parking lot he came running up to ask if i saw his ace.

[Asleep]

Franc, on Jul 13 2008, 10:28 PM, said:

what if you hit a hole in one & you are alone?

Rule 32, paragraph "C", sentence 14....

Two-stroke penalty.

[matthewb]

Asleep, on Jul 14 2008, 01:17 PM, said:

Franc, on Jul 13 2008, 10:28 PM, said:

what if you hit a hole in one & you are alone?

Rule 32, paragraph "C", sentence 14....

Two-stroke penalty.

Nah.

Rules of Golf FAQ: Validity of Hole in One

Quote

Q. What constitutes the validity of a hole in one?

A. The Rules of Golf do not address the issue of the validity of a hole-in-one. It is up to the Committee to determine whether a hole-in-one is valid. The USGA recommends that a hole-in-one be considered valid:

1. If made during a round of at least nine holes, except that a hole-in-one made during a match should be acceptable even if the match ends before the stipulated round is completed.
2. If the player is playing one ball; a hole-in-one made in a practice round in which the player is playing two or more balls should not be acceptable.
3. If attested by someone acceptable to the Committee.
4. If made at a hole with a temporary tee and/or putting green in use, even if the Committee did not specifically define the teeing ground with tee-markers; the length of the hole at the time should be stated on any certificate.
5. If made in a "scramble" competition, which is played as follows: A side comprises four players. Each member of a side plays from the teeing ground, the best drive is selected, each member plays a second shot from where the best drive is located, and so on.

[MiuraPro]

Franc, on Jul 13 2008, 11:28 PM, said:

I guess it does not really count. I was playing today and came pretty close on two par 3's. I was within 5 feet of the cup.

Do you call the rangemaster?

It does count!

It's happened to me.... here is what you do, write down a 1 and go to the next hole. It's that simple, if you have integrity your friends will never doubt you, they will say that they wish they could have been there. In my case I was originally playing my usual 9 after work, needless to say I finished the round and played the full 18.

Don't worry about what people think, enjoy the ace in your heart, the same way you should enjoy the game of golf!

r/
MiuraPro

[Freddy300]

MiuraPro, on Jul 14 2008, 01:36 PM, said:

Franc, on Jul 13 2008, 11:28 PM, said:

I guess it does not really count. I was playing today and came pretty close on two par 3's. I was within 5 feet of the cup.

Do you call the rangemaster?

It does count!

It's happened to me.... here is what you do, write down a 1 and go to the next hole. It's that simple, if you have integrity your friends will never doubt you, they will say that they wish they could have been there. In my case I was originally playing my usual 9 after work, needless to say I finished the round and played the full 18.

Don't worry about what people think, enjoy the ace in your heart, the same way you should enjoy the game of golf!

r/
MiuraPro

Thanks guys (and possibly any gals reponding). I hit the second par three hole (#17) and it just cleared the bunker on the lip of the green. The sand trap lip is higher so I could not see the ball on the green until I got very close. I kept hoping it was not a hole in one because I thought no one would believe it. I know they are not that rare but still.

[Crayaco]

Quote

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?

Sort of the same question, no?

I thought it was like,

If a man speaks in the woods and there is no woman present, is he still wrong!

[777twist]

I play a lot by myself now... I never used to because I didn't think I would be able to track my ball's flight.

Anyway, the 2nd or 3rd time out I came close a few times...not inches mind you, but a few feet. I personally think it would suck-the-big-one to get an Ace while alone. But I imagine with my luck, it will happen.

Funny thing, my friends all know I'm all about the rules and fair play, yet if I got a hole in one by myself, they wouldn't believe me just to break my balls!!! Even if they really did believe me.

Yep, that's my friends!

[tbowles411]

Crayaco, on Jul 15 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

Quote

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?

Sort of the same question, no?

I thought it was like,

If a man speaks in the woods and there is no woman present, is he still wrong!

Now THAT is classic!

[TitleistWI]

A hole in one is a hole in one. It doesnt matter whether anyone else saw it or not.

[BFC]

Crayaco, on Jul 15 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

I thought it was like,

If a man speaks in the woods and there is no woman present, is he still wrong!

Oh I'm so using that one!!! Classic!

[ejmac]

BFC, on Jul 15 2008, 10:31 PM, said:

Crayaco, on Jul 15 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

I thought it was like,

If a man speaks in the woods and there is no woman present, is he still wrong!

Oh I'm so using that one!!! Classic!

Me too!!! Right Now.

[Johnny]

5ft... I lost count the times I've been under 5ft.. that's not close in my book.. in the leather is close.

[Dizzub]

I have three of them, 2 of which I was playing by myself. All three times I told the proshop about it and 2 of them were put in the paper (big deal right?). One of them was at a course I used to play quite a bit and the head pro told me nice shot but you needed a witness for it to be "official." I didn't care anyway because to me it was exactly that. Funny though the other day, I was playing a 210 par 3 with the pin 14 yards deep so 224 and a touch downwind. I hit 4 iron expecting the ball to release and hit one a little thin and it landed just left of a bunker and jumped hard right into a water hazard. I dropped one as I was just practicing before work and I hit one at the center of green and hopped in the cart. Got up there and it was in the hole.

[xan_user]

Dizzub, on Jul 15 2008, 08:01 PM, said:

I have three of them, 2 of which I was playing by myself. All three times I told the proshop about it and 2 of them were put in the paper (big deal right?). One of them was at a course I used to play quite a bit and the head pro told me nice shot but you needed a witness for it to be "official." I didn't care anyway because to me it was exactly that. Funny though the other day, I was playing a 210 par 3 with the pin 14 yards deep so 224 and a touch downwind. I hit 4 iron expecting the ball to release and hit one a little thin and it landed just left of a bunker and jumped hard right into a water hazard. I dropped one as I was just practicing before work and I hit one at the center of green and hopped in the cart. Got up there and it was in the hole.

If i ever get one, it will be like this. Or more likley a double bogey hole in one.

My closest ever was my first shot on a lead off par 3, only 165yds way down hill. It landed one putter heads distance past and hopped back over the cup, ending up 18 inches below. I was playing alone and had 4-some drive up during my back swing, When they saw it land they started hooting. As I walked off I said to them at least someone would have seen it if it had gone in.

[rjurkowski]

Dizzub, on Jul 15 2008, 11:01 PM, said:

I have three of them, 2 of which I was playing by myself. All three times I told the proshop about it and 2 of them were put in the paper (big deal right?). One of them was at a course I used to play quite a bit and the head pro told me nice shot but you needed a witness for it to be "official." I didn't care anyway because to me it was exactly that. Funny though the other day, I was playing a 210 par 3 with the pin 14 yards deep so 224 and a touch downwind. I hit 4 iron expecting the ball to release and hit one a little thin and it landed just left of a bunker and jumped hard right into a water hazard. I dropped one as I was just practicing before work and I hit one at the center of green and hopped in the cart. Got up there and it was in the hole.

Nice par...

[NicholasP]

I have done it, it took the excitement out of it. It was my second one, but my first one had witnesses so why would I lie about it, to me I still count it.

[eaglecabport]

who gives a ****?

You sink a ball in one stroke from teh tee (and it si the first ball hit and not after an OB or water, etc) then congrats. Enjoy it. You only nee dot know in your own mind. If others do not believe you, that is their problem.

As for being "official", what does that really count for? Do your sponsors give you a bonus for a HIO? Not likely. Some club/ball manufacturers will send you something if you did it using/wearing their equipment but otherwise, who cares if some stuffy pro or club administrator says it is not official?

This is a game of honor. If you scored a HIO legitimately and talk about it, you have your honor, regardless of what people think or say.

Worry less about what others think and enjoy your HIO and your round of golf....every round of golf.

[mont86]

Bomb and Gouge, on Jul 14 2008, 09:17 AM, said:

I actually had a hole-in-one at my home course when I was playing alone. I told the people in the shop and they treated it as they would any other hole-in-one.

Golf is a gentleman's game...and if you lie about stuff like that, you're only hurting yourself.

This is the way my courses treats it too. If you really get one you deserve it, and if you're lying to bad for yourself.

[imsocrabby]

Crayaco, on Jul 15 2008, 08:50 AM, said:

Quote

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?

Sort of the same question, no?

I thought it was like,

If a man speaks in the woods and there is no woman present, is he still wrong!

of course he's still wrong...and so are his friends hiding in the bushes.




and if i ever hit a hole in one with noone else there....i'd A) wait for the next group to come through or B) call the shop and tell them to send someone out.

this of course because i have NEVER had a hole in one and knowing me and my luck....it will happen while i am alone.

[Bones01gt]

Golf is a game of integrity.

What a shame it would be to lie about something as sacred to the game as a "hole-in-one."

I have never made an ace.

I have been close many times.

[philfan316]

TitleistWI, on Jul 15 2008, 10:23 PM, said:

A hole in one is a hole in one. It doesnt matter whether anyone else saw it or not.

That is how I feel too, but sometimes I think about my hole in one compared to others, for example.

I was playing in junior event in 2002, and I had two playing competitors, 4 parents, including my dad watching from the left of the green. It was 185, water right, and a front pin. I got a hole-in-one....in a tournament, in front of witnesses, with a family member there, with a notice sign posted by the leaderboard, an official plaque from the course and the organization running the tournament.

Compared to my friend playing with his girlfriend at the local club at 7:00pm , and getting a hole in one with no one around, and he only played 9.

Compared to my friend who got a "hole in one", because someone from the nearby putting green ran up and put his ball in the cup from about 2 feet away. It was 9:15 pm, and it is a 230 yard par 3 that you can't see real well at dusk. Just sad. Really sad. He had his name put in the paper for it, and still refuses to believe that someone put it in the cup.

[matthewb]

mjtoal, on Aug 22 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

matthewb, on Jul 14 2008, 02:56 PM, said:

mjc694, on Jul 14 2008, 09:33 AM, said:

a round played by yourself, I dont believe counts, period. If you make a hole in one on your own with no one to see it.....you will always know that you made one, but likely others wont believe you (the world is full of people who lie on this subject), and even if they do....it will be strictly faith.

Just hope that when you make one, you are with someone on THAT day.

Rounds played alone count.

Here's the USGA Handicap Decision:

Quote

5-1a/2. Score Made When Playing Alone

Q: If a player plays alone, should the score be returned for handicap purposes?

A: Yes, provided the round is played in accordance with the Rules of Golf.

That rule about another player signing your card will be a problem.

Where's the USGA rule that states scores returned for handicap purposes must have a card signed by another player?

[matthewb]

mjtoal, on Aug 23 2008, 09:56 AM, said:

USGA? I don't care about the USGA, but in the R&A rule book, there is a rule about the marker signing your card, rule 6.6.

In any case, it is absurd to allow a player to mark his own card. Golf may be a game of gentlemen, but there is a limit to how far that goes. Players (knowingly or) unknowingly often break the rules, and the marker is there to represent other players, including those the player will play against with his new altered handicap.

[EDIT] Just checked the USGA rules and the same applies. Therefore a solo score cannot be recorded in compliance with the Rules of Golf.

The USGA allows someone that plays alone to post scores for handicap if said person follows the Rules of Golf for the round.

This was clearly stated above & noted as USGA. No claims were made regarding the R&A and no claims were made concerning what you do or you do not care about.

So, I can't help but think you simply want to argue as all you've offered is a non sequitur.

[matthewb]

mjtoal, on Aug 23 2008, 10:36 AM, said:

No, a non sequitur ("does not follow") is when the USGA says that a score may be posted from a solo round if it complies with the 'Rules of Golf', which require a marked card.

Anyway, I am sure you agree that it is rather unsatisfactory for a player to self-attest to complying with the Rules when many players don't even know them properly.

That's an unfair stretch to conclude that the Rules of Golf do not allow a solo round to be posted for handicap.

But you can take up your issue with these folks:

The United States Golf Association
P.O. Box 708
Far Hills, N.J. 07931
908-234-2300
Fax: 908-234-9687

Overall, I guess you should be thankful that the USGA Handicap System doesn't have much to do with your practical life.

[gpickypick]

This is another reason why you don't lie about your score in general. People aren't likely to believe you about a hole-in-one when they've been pencil-whipped by you before.

[kevcarter]

With all due respect to Martin, rule 6-6 does not contemplate a casual round of golf as is played daily across the world. Rule 6-6 is meant for tournament play in my opinion.

In the USGA jurisdiction:
In a casual round of golf, there is no committee for the return of your card.
In a casual round of golf, generally one card is kept for the group by one of the players in the group.
In a casual round of golf, if you break rule 6-6, you are disqualified. Disqualified from what?

In the USGA handicap manual, nowhere does it say that a round not attested in unacceptable. This may not be true in Martin's part of the world. I know in some jurisdictions, only scores used in a tournament are used for handicap purposes, that may be why Martin's opinion is different from those on our side of the pond.

In my opinion, an ace made while playing alone, during an 18 hole round of golf, played under the rules, is valid.

Kevin