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Hypothetical: PGA player uses $1 ball. What Happens?


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#1 BB28403

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 11:26 PM

Hypothetical situation,  for some unknown reason half the PGA field switch to a $1 ball (whomever they are under contract with)  Perhaps to pay respect to the guys and gals who play these .

What kind of results do we see from the Pros who play the $1 ball?

Would the premium ball guys have a big advantage?

Or Would it make a difference?

Just thought it would make for interesting convo.  


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 11:31 PM

They couldn't stop the ball on most of the greens they see, the surface is just too firm, gotta have spin.

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 11:48 PM

Conservatively speaking, a 1-2 shot advantage per round for the pros using a premium ball, maybe more on really firm greens. Probably more like 3-4 for players who arent hitting a lot of GIR.
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 11:57 PM

Sergio would up his damaged green quota to over 10 a round.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:32 AM

They should have a top flight tournament lol


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:07 AM

 SoCalTitleist, on 11 February 2019 - 12:32 AM, said:

They should have a top flight tournament lol

Id like to see something like that. Top Flite balls. Clubs straight off the rack from Dicks and no spotters/gallery.

Obviously they would still play at the highest level but Id be curious to see how it affects scores.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:09 AM

 RobertBaron, on 11 February 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

 SoCalTitleist, on 11 February 2019 - 12:32 AM, said:

They should have a top flight tournament lol

I'd like to see something like that. Top Flite balls. Clubs straight off the rack from Dick's and no spotters/gallery.

Obviously they would still play at the highest level but I'd be curious to see how it affects scores.

I've thought about this before.  It would be cool if there were a few of these tournaments every year.  One could be played with balata balls, the next with old hickory sticks, etc.  I think it would be interesting to see how the guys on Tour would handle that.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:39 AM

They'll get $99.00 back in change.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:51 AM

 CaptainRook, on 11 February 2019 - 02:09 AM, said:

 RobertBaron, on 11 February 2019 - 01:07 AM, said:

 SoCalTitleist, on 11 February 2019 - 12:32 AM, said:

They should have a top flight tournament lol

I'd like to see something like that. Top Flite balls. Clubs straight off the rack from Dick's and no spotters/gallery.

Obviously they would still play at the highest level but I'd be curious to see how it affects scores.

I've thought about this before.  It would be cool if there were a few of these tournaments every year.  One could be played with balata balls, the next with old hickory sticks, etc.  I think it would be interesting to see how the guys on Tour would handle that.

You mean the ones who would actually sign up to play!

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:48 AM

For the next Tiger v Phil match they should pick the equipment the other uses from the rack at golfgalaxy or something.


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:02 AM

 Matt J, on 10 February 2019 - 11:31 PM, said:

They couldn't stop the ball on most of the greens they see, the surface is just too firm, gotta have spin.

They would adapt pretty quickly....running more balls onto the greens, less aggressive with longer irons and fairways, higher trajectories to bring shots in steeper, more conservative layups to avoid short-siding themselves, lower lofted chipping from up close.

While still infinitely better, a lot of it might actually more closely resemble the kind of golf many of us play.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:12 AM

If they played a Ksig 4 (or equivalent) I suspect they'd be OK. Obviously not great, but OK. Pinnacles and the like would be another story.

Love to see a match play format where if you win a hole you can declare a club in your opponents bag put of play.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:28 AM

Depends on the course.

If they were playing on a links course, I think they could make it work. There aren't many forced carries and you can run the ball into the greens. I seem to remember back in the 70's and 80's talk of players changing when they came over for The Open for that reason. The harder ball back then would definitely go further than the old balata's and they didn't need the spin to attack the pins.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:31 AM

 MattyO1984, on 11 February 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Depends on the course.

If they were playing on a links course, I think they could make it work. There aren't many forced carries and you can run the ball into the greens. I seem to remember back in the 70's and 80's talk of players changing when they came over for The Open for that reason. The harder ball back then would definitely go further than the old balata's and they didn't need the spin to attack the pins.

I think that Johnny Miller won his Open Championship with a Top Flite.
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:20 PM

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 12:58 PM

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Bubba, is that you?

Was going to say this. Bubba tried, failed.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 01:12 PM

the Kirkland Signature 3 piece is $23.99 for two dozen so exactly $1 each. I suspect a tour pro would do quite well with those.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:13 PM

 gvogel, on 11 February 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

 MattyO1984, on 11 February 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Depends on the course.

If they were playing on a links course, I think they could make it work. There aren't many forced carries and you can run the ball into the greens. I seem to remember back in the 70's and 80's talk of players changing when they came over for The Open for that reason. The harder ball back then would definitely go further than the old balata's and they didn't need the spin to attack the pins.

I think that Johnny Miller won his Open Championship with a Top Flite.

I think Top Flite was a much better brand back then. Kinda like WIlson.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:25 PM

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:28 PM

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 07:07 PM

 Edaw68, on 11 February 2019 - 07:48 AM, said:

For the next Tiger v Phil match they should pick the equipment the other uses from the rack at golfgalaxy or something.

Pretty cool idea.  In the early 2000s, when I worked at a muni, the shop staff would play a 9 hole skins game at the end of the year with 5 clubs, chosen by our opponents, from the lost and found.  I once got stuck with this anti slice driver that literally had a banana bend in the shaft under the grip as its training aid.  All of us were 0-3 hcps, and 40 was broken maybe twice.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 12:42 PM

 Edaw68, on 11 February 2019 - 07:48 AM, said:

For the next Tiger v Phil match they should pick the equipment the other uses from the rack at golfgalaxy or something.

I like this but how about they play the exact same clubs and ball as they played their first year as a pro?

Lefty rocking the first great big bertha maybe?  Tiger, I don't recall his first driver head but the shaft was steel and 43" iirc.  I don't think they played persimmon their first years as pros but probably did growing up.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:29 PM

I dont believe you would see anything different, they would adjust to the ball.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:39 PM

 bigeasy, on 12 February 2019 - 01:29 PM, said:

I dont believe you would see anything different, they would adjust to the ball.


Three holes and it would look like any other tourney.

Edited by Ferguson, 12 February 2019 - 01:39 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:41 PM

If he won a tournament the ball would demand on twitter that he give him an additional 2-3$ because he can afford it

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 01:47 PM

 gvogel, on 11 February 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

 MattyO1984, on 11 February 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Depends on the course.

If they were playing on a links course, I think they could make it work. There aren't many forced carries and you can run the ball into the greens. I seem to remember back in the 70's and 80's talk of players changing when they came over for The Open for that reason. The harder ball back then would definitely go further than the old balata's and they didn't need the spin to attack the pins.

I think that Johnny Miller won his Open Championship with a Top Flite.

Johnny used a Tourney ball in 73.  Same one Jack played.  

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 02:02 PM

There would be zero lost balls.  I can lose a new PV1x in the first three holes.  A Pinnacle or Top Flite, like Geraldo Rivera, refuses to ever go away.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 02:07 PM

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 02:12 PM

 Brass_Bullseye, on 12 February 2019 - 01:47 PM, said:

 gvogel, on 11 February 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

 MattyO1984, on 11 February 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

Depends on the course.

If they were playing on a links course, I think they could make it work. There aren't many forced carries and you can run the ball into the greens. I seem to remember back in the 70's and 80's talk of players changing when they came over for The Open for that reason. The harder ball back then would definitely go further than the old balata's and they didn't need the spin to attack the pins.

I think that Johnny Miller won his Open Championship with a Top Flite.

Johnny used a Tourney ball in '73.  Same one Jack played.  

Pretty sure he changed to a two piece solid ball just for that tournament.  He did it because it was windy, and he could also play short of the green with some run.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 02:38 PM

Given time to adapt to a Duo or Pinnacle, they would figure out a way to play.  Distance not being an issue, maybe irons with weaker lofts to come in softer, run the ball up?  Scores would probably go up, but the skill level might over come the ball limitations.  To an earlier post, Top Flites were never considered a premium ball.  In 1976 at the Open, JM was using a British small ball two piece Slazenger with a surlyn cover.


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