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Does Spieth needs to make a change ???


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#31 PowderedToastMan

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 11:51 AM

Clearly heís too tall for golf. He should try shaving a couple inches off and see if that helps.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 11:56 AM

 PowderedToastMan, on 11 February 2019 - 11:51 AM, said:

Clearly heís too tall for golf. He should try shaving a couple inches off and see if that helps.

You mean down to Roryís size ?   Woooah!!!!




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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:36 PM

I have no affiliation with this post. Just another copy cat trying to feed off what I started. What ever happened to original content?

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:42 PM

He'll be back to normal this year

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 02:54 PM

Pretty obvious solution:

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 03:02 PM

 Danny Choo, on 11 February 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

I have no affiliation with this post. Just another copy cat trying to feed off what I started. What ever happened to original content?

You arenít the first Jordan prognosticator
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 05:23 PM

Spieth will forever be held hostage by 2015. Hes playing better golf, just needs to be able to put 4 rounds good rounds together.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:10 PM

Im no fan of Cameron McCormack but changing instructors at this point of his career aint gonna happen....Makes no sense because any coaching change would take at least a couple of months to take effect...IMO JS troubles are a result of an undependable driver...

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:17 PM

Op .. fix your title ... killing me

He needs to see Coo Coo ka Choo for lessons
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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:18 PM

I'd definitely quit golf if I were YJS.

Always in the mix at the Majors, but only won 3? 14 Wins in 5 years?  Go get a real job Spieth.


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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:37 PM

 Danny Choo, on 11 February 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

I have no affiliation with this post. Just another copy cat trying to feed off what I started. What ever happened to original content?

I always thought trolls were pretty much alike except for the bright hair colors.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 08:44 PM

To much money in the bank maybe.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:05 PM

Expectations = target on your back. 2015 certainly accomplished that, and now he's living under the scrutiny of *need to win* vs *want to win*. I'm sure he wants it now more than ever, but forcing things and dwelling on potential vs actual would get to anyone as doubt creeps in. Justin Rose is just finally coming into his full potential, but the grind that took to get him there is something he can tap into to re-evaluate future struggles. YJS was blazing hot right out of the gate and now he isn't. What plan does he have to fall back on now that he's falling down the OWGR, nothing really, and he's just started his grind to figure it all out. He'll be good again, but the question is how long will it take?

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 09:59 PM

Example of poor mental decisions...last rd. #17 Pebble Beach ('19)...Speith chose 6 iron, lots of wind in face and Faldo said he needs 4 iron.
he came on short about 90 ft to putt, made
bogey.....
Note about all previous pga pro's were hitting 4 iron prior to Speith on #17.

I'm a big Speith fan, but he is in trouble above the neck, imo....

Another example his how he has made frequent double and triple bogies in "19 without an actual penalty stroke, caddie needs to step up.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 10:41 PM

Hitting a 6 on 17 was ridiculous. Him and his caddie were the only ones on the planet who thought otherwise.

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Posted 11 February 2019 - 10:58 PM

 WidespreadPanic, on 11 February 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

Hitting a 6 on 17 was ridiculous. Him and his caddie were the only ones on the planet who thought otherwise.

Yea. Was almost like he pulled it thinking it was actually a 5.  Picking a 5 would be dumb in that wind. But believable.   Pulling a 6 was just stupid. I mean it was a 7 with no wind.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 02:42 AM

 cbutcher1547, on 11 February 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

Spieth will forever be held hostage by 2015. Hes playing better golf, just needs to be able to put 4 rounds good rounds together.
I don't think anyone expects him to repeat 2015 on any type of regular basis.  Unfortunately for him, I do think people kind of expect an average of 2016-2017, which is multiple wins per year and a major every other year or so.  Honestly, even this would be an absurd pace to keep up for a decade, and this doesn't even factor in that he did really blow the 2016 Masters.

Heck, even average out his 2016-2018, which would be 1 or 2 wins a year plus a major every third year.  Even that would be a pretty crazy run for another 10-12 years.  Is he held hostage to this?  Maybe so.

Again, I'm not a hater/troll but I don't think his game is right there the last 12 months.  For all the love/hate comparisons with Rory, the performance is pretty clearly in Rory's favor over the last 12 months (go back 2 years and it flips hugely in Spieth's favor).  Interestingly, even though neither was playing at a great level overall, the both did OK in the majors last year (unfortunately, for each of them "good" = win).  I would call their performance equal.  If you look at the Masters/Open, both let a fantastic opportunity get away (Rory = Masters, Spieth = Open) and each somehow got back in it late on Sunday but couldn't pull it off.  I would say Spieth's comeback at the Masters was a bit more impressive but he also let a better chance go at the Open.  I don't think its fair to say "Spieth could have won 2 majors last year" and not say the same for Rory (obviously the could not have each won these two tournaments).

Maybe Rory gets dinged a bit more for not showing up on Sundays (Tour Championship, I believe some European tournaments) but to me this is "closer" to being back at an elite/dominating level than Spieth's play over the last 12 months.

Going forward, it wouldn't surprise me if either wins multiple times before the other one does.  Or, if they take the Masters and PGA Championship, then we can all argue about "who is the worst golfer to have achieved the Career Grand Slam."

Play last 12 months:

                   Rory                Spieth
Wins           1                      0
Top 10s      9                      4
MCs            3                      6

Masters     T5                    3rd
US Open    MC                  MC
Open          T2                   T9
PGA            T50                T12 (never really in it though)

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 07:28 AM

 Danny Choo, on 11 February 2019 - 02:36 PM, said:

I have no affiliation with this post. Just another copy cat trying to feed off what I started. What ever happened to original content?

Well, to be honest Danny, your post was certainly not the first claiming to predict Spieth's demise.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 08:03 AM

I think Jordan showed some positive signs for about 2 and a half rounds last week. His putting on intermediate length putts seemed to be coming around and only missed a few short ones. His iron play looked solid at times and his scrambling was really impressive. Driving seems to be a big issue which Iím sure he will work out.
The passion of Jordanís fans is second to only Tiger and maybe Phil. At Pebble the gallery for DJ/ Jordan was huge, almost Tigeresque. If you see Jordan live he has a real positive vibe. He smiles and makes eye contact with people and kind of bounces around, always moving, just very likable.
With that being said when he started play in Hawaii he was quoted as saying he hadnít picked up a club in sometime and felt strange even swinging a club. I think he got married in the off season and of course thatís going to put your focus in other directions. When you have so much success early and the benefits that go with that itís hard not to get distracted.
So when I see all the threads on Jordan itís simply because people want him to do well and want to relive the past success that heís had. My issue is that does he care about that as much as all his fans do? At this point in his life my answer would have to be No. Jordan and Rory are very similar not in their golf games but in their likability and success but also similar in that their drive to be the best is not at an elite level, at least not at this time.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 08:16 AM

None of his stats show a guy who could win this year. (only good stat is career earnings)

I think the should quit thinking and hit the dam ball.

Hope he does, fun watching when he's playing well.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 08:27 AM

 Jackhammer993, on 12 February 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

I think Jordan showed some positive signs for about 2 and a half rounds last week. His putting on intermediate length putts seemed to be coming around and only missed a few short ones. His iron play looked solid at times and his scrambling was really impressive. Driving seems to be a big issue which I'm sure he will work out.
The passion of Jordan's fans is second to only Tiger and maybe Phil. At Pebble the gallery for DJ/ Jordan was huge, almost Tigeresque. If you see Jordan live he has a real positive vibe. He smiles and makes eye contact with people and kind of bounces around, always moving, just very likable.
With that being said when he started play in Hawaii he was quoted as saying he hadn't picked up a club in sometime and felt strange even swinging a club. I think he got married in the off season and of course that's going to put your focus in other directions. When you have so much success early and the benefits that go with that it's hard not to get distracted.
So when I see all the threads on Jordan it's simply because people want him to do well and want to relive the past success that he's had. My issue is that does he care about that as much as all his fans do? At this point in his life my answer would have to be No. Jordan and Rory are very similar not in their golf games but in their likability and success but also similar in that their drive to be the best is not at an elite level, at least not at this time.
I don't buy the 2.5 rounds thing.  Everyone would be doing better if they could eliminate the parts of a round they screwed up.  Again, I don't doubt he can find it very quickly, and everyone will be saying something different then (the season has a long way to go) but I just don't (objectively) see what is looking so great right now.  Let's ignore the extreme hate but the optimism seems to be based on what people are hoping for, not what is there right now.

On the drive point, Jason Day had an interview last year that talked about his goals/where he's at.  I kind of got the impression that he knows what it took to dominate for 12-24 months and it's just hard to sustain / keep doing.  Not just the competition from others or mentally on the course but also what it requires you to give up in the rest of your life.  No one can fault Rory or Spieth for this either -- it just shows how different Tiger was (both skill and how he was wired).
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:02 AM

Maybe when people stop comparing Spieth with Tiger and Jack they wont make such ridiculous threads. Spieth is fine and playing like any top 10 golfer. They gave good and bad weeks/months/years.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:48 AM

 Lamb, on 12 February 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

Maybe when people stop comparing Spieth with Tiger and Jack they wont make such ridiculous threads. Spieth is fine and playing like any top 10 golfer. They gave good and bad weeks/months/years.

He has no top 10s in 5 events this year.

Comparing to himself 3 years ago and there's no comparison.   Crazy how poor his stats are, with 78th in SG putting being his best.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 11:06 AM

Spieth has a career that a lot of current and ex pros would love to have and he will be just fine for the next 25 years on tour if he plays that long.

Maybe he should get divorced since the wife is the only person who has changed in his life 🙄

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 04:33 PM

His average scores in round 1 through 4 the three times he made the cut this season:

65.7
69.3
72.3
73.0

Whatever that means.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 04:40 PM

Keep it in  perspective. First to last In  strokes gained putting isnít thay many strokes. A hot week with putter can jump you up dramatically.  

The whole strokes gained metric is both very helpful and totally meaningless at the same time.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 04:42 PM

I don't think we need to over-analyze it. He's just in a bit of a funk right now and I'm sure he'll come out of it pretty soon. Would not surprise me at all if he wins The Masters.

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 04:51 PM

 Lamb, on 12 February 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

Maybe when people stop comparing Spieth with Tiger and Jack they wont make such ridiculous threads. Spieth is fine and playing like any top 10 golfer. They gave good and bad weeks/months/years.
I'll agree with the comparisons to Tiger/Jack.  If we look at their best 10 year run, the difference between Tiger and Phil is huge (Tiger has him more than doubled up).  Phil is the 2nd best player of his generation / most majors since Faldo, but he's a (relative) "slacker" compared to Tiger.

Who knows what the future holds, but Rory and Spieth are about on pace with Phil based on how many years into a 10 year run each of them is at (Spieth would end up higher if he could sustain the first 4 years.  Rory kind of depends on what you do with the Euro tour wins).

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Majors = 13

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Wins = 21
Majors = 5

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 04:56 PM

 USAF Retired E7, on 12 February 2019 - 10:48 AM, said:

 Lamb, on 12 February 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

Maybe when people stop comparing Spieth with Tiger and Jack they wont make such ridiculous threads. Spieth is fine and playing like any top 10 golfer. They gave good and bad weeks/months/years.

He has no top 10s in 5 events this year.

Comparing to himself 3 years ago and there's no comparison.   Crazy how poor his stats are, with 78th in SG putting being his best.
This (and the stats posted above) are the key point.  His record is exceptional.  His play in the last 12 months / especially the 2018-2019 season is not.

For people defending the "he'll be off the tour comments" then I agree with the "it goes up and down, he'll be back."  For people saying his game is "right there," I don't agree so much.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 06:47 PM

Lot of people coming on here patting him on the back, like "there, there, you've had a great career already, let's just appreciate that and to hell with the future"

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