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HOLD EVERYTHING: New scientific study says PUTT WITH THE PIN OUT!


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#61 Obee

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 07:37 PM

I had a putt today that was a 35 foot big breaker. It was going dead/left-center. Probably 3 to 4 feet past the hole speed. Heavy pin. Hits the pin and bounces out. Everyone in the group agreed: that was 100% in the hole without the flag. I will be taking the flag out on big breaking putts from now on. For now... LOL

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Posted 08 February 2019 - 08:02 PM

View PostObee, on 08 February 2019 - 07:37 PM, said:

I had a putt today that was a 35 foot big breaker. It was going dead/left-center. Probably 3 to 4 feet past the hole speed. Heavy pin. Hits the pin and bounces out. Everyone in the group agreed: that was 100% in the hole without the flag. I will be taking the flag out on big breaking putts from now on. For now... LOL

The EXACT same thing happened to me Obee!  Putt was breaking in from the high side as the grain & slope grabbed it and it deflected off of the stick. All my guys agreed it would have been in if it had not struck the pin.
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Posted 08 February 2019 - 10:28 PM

That's why the new rule doesn't say you have to leave the flag in.  The advantage gained for some will be having the option available to them on every putt.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 06:55 AM

View Postdpb5031, on 08 February 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

View PostObee, on 08 February 2019 - 07:37 PM, said:

I had a putt today that was a 35 foot big breaker. It was going dead/left-center. Probably 3 to 4 feet past the hole speed. Heavy pin. Hits the pin and bounces out. Everyone in the group agreed: that was 100% in the hole without the flag. I will be taking the flag out on big breaking putts from now on. For now... LOL

The EXACT same thing happened to me Obee!  Putt was breaking in from the high side as the grain & slope grabbed it and it deflected off of the stick. All my guys agreed it would have been in if it had not struck the pin.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 08:41 AM

Being towards the northern end of the mid-atlantic, I really haven't been able to get out to get out and noodle on how to handle dealing with the flag on the greens.

From what little putting I've done with it in, I have a lot of difficulty putting with the flag in on putts inside 10ft.  It's like I subconsciously see the flag as something to avoid.  I legitimately miss the hole entirely.  It's wild.  Visually, it just doesn't jive.  So I had planned to leave it in outside 10ft or so, to save time, and pull it when I get close.

Now, it looks like some of the research is showing that putts going faster are the most likely to be impacted negatively by the flag being in.  The putts I had planned to leave it in for are the most likely for me to have a big enough speed error to where the flag being in would hurt.  It's probably not a big enough difference in actual strokes on the scorecard for me to go out of the way to pull the stick on longer putts though.


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