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Kirk Junge and his "Setup 4 Impact" Golf Swing


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#1 BigEx44

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:03 PM

I just got back from a Kirk Junge 3 day school down in West Palm Beach Florida.
I had a lot of fun and I found myself really striking the ball well by the end of the end of the school.
Kirk is an excellent instructor and teaches a swing that has a lot of similarities to Bryson Dechambeau's swing.
I highly recommend the school for anyone who may be struggling with their golf swing.
Here a couple of his video's:
A comparison of Kirk Junge's swing to Bryson Dechambeau's
https://www.youtube....h?v=AKLcOM4Lve4
https://www.youtube....ScavOQpKY&t=51s


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Posted 29 January 2019 - 10:02 PM

From videos I have watched of his, he was promoting swinging like Moe Norman.  Some people may scoff at that but I am a big fan of Moe and his swing.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:26 PM

 lenman73, on 29 January 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

From videos I have watched of his, he was promoting swinging like Moe Norman.  Some people may scoff at that but I am a big fan of Moe and his swing.

while kirk may have studied Moe's swing for 20 years or so and admits Moe was greatest ball striker possibly ever, his methods differ greatly from Moe; from set up (other than shaft/arm alignment), hip and shoulder turn, swing finish, and most of all distance of golf struck golf ball.  His methods offer room for individual customization, something Moe and Todd Graves do not offer, IMO. I'm thinking of trying the school as well. Currently I am a 5HC but getting older and less movable parts.

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:42 PM

 lenman73, on 29 January 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

From videos I have watched of his, he was promoting swinging like Moe Norman.  Some people may scoff at that but I am a big fan of Moe and his swing.

He has parts of Moe's swing - but is probably actually closer to Bryson Dechambeau.

What Kirk is in common with the Moe:

1) setting up on the impact plane (hands higher at address than conventional golf)

2) using a right hand non rotational grip (stronger, more rotated RH grip)


Where Kirk differs from Moe:

1) He likes a more comfortable individual setup for players.  Not reaching so much for the ball at setup like Moe did (taller stance like Dechambeau).

He makes this very individualistic to what each player is comfortable with.

2) His swing has more turning than Moe and with a more traditional use of the legs.  Kirk doesn't promote the unique "sit down" move Moe used.  (He feels Moe had to do that because he was so far away from the ball.)  Kirk doesn't think it works very well for most golfers (he's ok if they want to use that move.  Just not very attainable for most golfers).

3) Ideally, Kirk wants people a "little open" at impact as a result of the golf turn vs Moe's "facing the Ball" at Impact.  He thinks most golfers lose distance by not using their body at least a little bit on the through swing.  He says Moe turned a lot more in his younger days (before NG).


Edited by BigEx44, 30 January 2019 - 07:10 PM.


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 06:46 PM

 player12, on 30 January 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

 lenman73, on 29 January 2019 - 10:02 PM, said:

From videos I have watched of his, he was promoting swinging like Moe Norman.  Some people may scoff at that but I am a big fan of Moe and his swing.

while kirk may have studied Moe's swing for 20 years or so and admits Moe was greatest ball striker possibly ever, his methods differ greatly from Moe; from set up (other than shaft/arm alignment), hip and shoulder turn, swing finish, and most of all distance of golf struck golf ball.  His methods offer room for individual customization, something Moe and Todd Graves do not offer, IMO. I'm thinking of trying the school as well. Currently I am a 5HC but getting older and less movable parts.

I would highly recommend the school.  I came away hitting the ball pretty good and like Kirk's easy plan (drills) to get better.  I'll be using his drills for the rest of the winter.


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM

Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing him at all.  Just saying the videos I have seen were Moe oriented from myrecollection, probably because I was looking up Moe videos on YouTube and he popped up in the mix. That's how I first heard of Kirk. But this was a couple of years ago.  If his teachings work for you, by all means go for it.

  Personally, I tried the natural golf thing years ago and in more recent years tried going with Graves.  But I just cant get it to click so I go with my own hybrid version.  Probably in the middle of Moe and Bryson.  Not quite as rigid and a little flatter plain the Bryson and a little closer to the ball than Moe.  But soon to be 46 years old, I can only get my body to do so much. But since my worthless cable is out now for the 3rd time today I got some time to go check out more of his videos.


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Posted 30 January 2019 - 09:07 PM

 lenman73, on 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing him at all.  Just saying the videos I have seen were Moe oriented from myrecollection, probably because I was looking up Moe videos on YouTube and he popped up in the mix. That's how I first heard of Kirk. But this was a couple of years ago.  If his teachings work for you, by all means go for it.

  Personally, I tried the natural golf thing years ago and in more recent years tried going with Graves.  But I just cant get it to click so I go with my own hybrid version.  Probably in the middle of Moe and Bryson.  Not quite as rigid and a little flatter plain the Bryson and a little closer to the ball than Moe.  But soon to be 46 years old, I can only get my body to do so much. But since my worthless cable is out now for the 3rd time today I got some time to go check out more of his videos.

No problem, I didn't take it as a dismissal.  Kirk isn't nearly as rigid in his teaching as the Graves Brothers.  He allows for a lot more individuality in people's swings like you mentioned with yours.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 05:45 AM

 lenman73, on 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing him at all.  Just saying the videos I have seen were Moe oriented from myrecollection, probably because I was looking up Moe videos on YouTube and he popped up in the mix. That's how I first heard of Kirk. But this was a couple of years ago.  If his teachings work for you, by all means go for it.

  Personally, I tried the natural golf thing years ago and in more recent years tried going with Graves.  But I just cant get it to click so I go with my own hybrid version.  Probably in the middle of Moe and Bryson.  Not quite as rigid and a little flatter plain the Bryson and a little closer to the ball than Moe.  But soon to be 46 years old, I can only get my body to do so much. But since my worthless cable is out now for the 3rd time today I got some time to go check out more of his videos.

Junge changes swings like most people change socks. He was Moe early on, then something called MGS I believe and now Set Up for Impact.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 06:14 AM

I stumbled onto his videos on YouTube when checking out some of Brysons swings. I really wanted the iron swing to work but for me it just did not click. I think part of it was for me to get my arms into the right positions - and having standard LLL clubs - my left wrist ended up getting banged around a little bit from being lifted up a little more.

What really worked for me was the driver swing though. I sort of took some of his ideas and "worked out the rest" on my own. But I definitely think about getting "setup to impact", take my swing and then my one thought is putting my body back into the same position. I cant explain why it works but so far I like the idea.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:06 AM

 garyt, on 31 January 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

 lenman73, on 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing him at all.  Just saying the videos I have seen were Moe oriented from myrecollection, probably because I was looking up Moe videos on YouTube and he popped up in the mix. That's how I first heard of Kirk. But this was a couple of years ago.  If his teachings work for you, by all means go for it.

  Personally, I tried the natural golf thing years ago and in more recent years tried going with Graves.  But I just cant get it to click so I go with my own hybrid version.  Probably in the middle of Moe and Bryson.  Not quite as rigid and a little flatter plain the Bryson and a little closer to the ball than Moe.  But soon to be 46 years old, I can only get my body to do so much. But since my worthless cable is out now for the 3rd time today I got some time to go check out more of his videos.

Junge changes swings like most people change socks. He was Moe early on, then something called MGS I believe and now Set Up for Impact.

Setup 4 Impact still has a lot of Moe in it.  I would hope  teachers grow and learn as they gain experience teaching.  That’s what “Setup 4 Impact” is.
MGS is simply “Setup 4 Impact” for those who struggle with weight shift.


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Posted 31 January 2019 - 07:23 AM

Interesting write up in either case. Thanks for taking the time.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 08:56 AM

 garyt, on 31 January 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

 lenman73, on 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing him at all.  Just saying the videos I have seen were Moe oriented from myrecollection, probably because I was looking up Moe videos on YouTube and he popped up in the mix. That's how I first heard of Kirk. But this was a couple of years ago.  If his teachings work for you, by all means go for it.

  Personally, I tried the natural golf thing years ago and in more recent years tried going with Graves.  But I just cant get it to click so I go with my own hybrid version.  Probably in the middle of Moe and Bryson.  Not quite as rigid and a little flatter plain the Bryson and a little closer to the ball than Moe.  But soon to be 46 years old, I can only get my body to do so much. But since my worthless cable is out now for the 3rd time today I got some time to go check out more of his videos.

Junge changes swings like most people change socks. He was Moe early on, then something called MGS I believe and now Set Up for Impact.

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:03 AM

Well after watching several videos last night I think I am going to give this a go.  I have an indoor league starting Monday and will be a perfect time to try to implement this. That and it isn't that far off from the Graves method I have tried before.  Some of what he said in what I watched last night kind of clicked so we will see how it goes. I normally pick up a club and work on my grip and take a few practice swings in my house all winter long so I won't go into it totally blind come Monday.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 07:26 AM

 BigEx44, on 31 January 2019 - 07:06 AM, said:

 garyt, on 31 January 2019 - 05:45 AM, said:

 lenman73, on 30 January 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

Don't get me wrong, I am not dismissing him at all.  Just saying the videos I have seen were Moe oriented from myrecollection, probably because I was looking up Moe videos on YouTube and he popped up in the mix. That's how I first heard of Kirk. But this was a couple of years ago.  If his teachings work for you, by all means go for it.

  Personally, I tried the natural golf thing years ago and in more recent years tried going with Graves.  But I just cant get it to click so I go with my own hybrid version.  Probably in the middle of Moe and Bryson.  Not quite as rigid and a little flatter plain the Bryson and a little closer to the ball than Moe.  But soon to be 46 years old, I can only get my body to do so much. But since my worthless cable is out now for the 3rd time today I got some time to go check out more of his videos.

Junge changes swings like most people change socks. He was Moe early on, then something called MGS I believe and now Set Up for Impact.

Setup 4 Impact still has a lot of Moe in it.  I would hope  teachers grow and learn as they gain experience teaching.  That’s what “Setup 4 Impact” is.
MGS is simply “Setup 4 Impact” for those who struggle with weight shift.

Yea, I'm just no too fond of the guy's methods. He'll post on somebody else's youtube videos and say they're wrong and push his site. I just think that's a bit low. He also had a video called "Perfect Impact Set Up for The Easiest Swing in Golf" Which was an obvious play on Brian Sparks "Perfect Impact Golf" "Easiest Swing in Golf" I called him on that and he seems to have taken it down or renamed it.

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 08:58 PM

What I see from Junge, as well as DeChambeau, is a narrower stance than Moe Norman and more hip rotation vs Moe’s hips bump before rotating .

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Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:15 PM

 NoTalentLefty, on 01 February 2019 - 08:58 PM, said:

What I see from Junge, as well as DeChambeau, is a narrower stance than Moe Norman and more hip rotation vs Moe’s hips bump before rotating .

Yes.  Exactly.  Also let's them stall taller (not the awkward reach Moe used....)

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Posted 07 February 2019 - 01:51 PM

When I work on his setup with a weight shift left and a little bit pre turned, the club face opens just a little. I was wondering how you correct this or do you just leave it slightly open.

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Posted 09 February 2019 - 07:42 AM

 scratch72, on 07 February 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

When I work on his setup with a weight shift left and a little bit pre turned, the club face opens just a little. I was wondering how you correct this or do you just leave it slightly open.

I adjust based on the kind of ball flight I'm seeing.

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