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Bryson DeChambeau is a modern day Bobby Jones


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:18 AM

The odds of anyone winning all 4 in a season are astronomically. And instant HOF credentials


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:32 AM

Jones was "influential" but not one of greatest.  
Bryson is also "influential" but not even close to greatness, yet.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:43 AM

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 08:32 AM, said:

Jones was "influential" but not one of greatest.  
Bryson is also "influential" but not even close to greatness, yet.
Jones won 44% of his starts. I'd think that qualifies as one of the greatest. He won for USO 3 open Championships and  5 us arms and a British am. That's not greatness?
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:55 AM

Bryson does things his own way, and gets a huge amount of media focus because of that.  His form in the last 6 months has been stellar, no arguments there.  Guy is delivering.  

But until he's been in contention in the back 9 on a Sunday then his "Major" credentials are zero, flat zero.  

I'd bet my house he doesn't win two majors, never mind all four!
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:05 AM

View Postnichho, on 28 January 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

Yes......................Bobby Jones was renown for being a bit of a cry baby when he first set out as well.

Yes, but he was also 14 years old when he first played in the US Amateur.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:50 AM

View PostAzSuperHack76, on 27 January 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

View Postimakaveli, on 27 January 2019 - 06:00 PM, said:

Guy never had a top 10 in a Major...

Well, He's going to win every major from here on out until he hangs it up.

Sure he will...

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:52 AM

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:52 AM

Re: Jones won 44% of his starts. I'd think that qualifies as one of the greatest. He won for USO 3 open Championships and  5 us arms and a British am. That's not greatness?



Jones was solid and consistent player at a time when golf was being played by fewer people.
The odds were in his favor.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:37 AM

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 08:32 AM, said:

Jones was "influential" but not one of greatest.  
Bryson is also "influential" but not even close to greatness, yet.

This of course comes down to the definition of greatness.  I have read that about 25 million Americans play golf each year.  Only 5 players in history have won both the NCAA Division I individual championship and the US Amateur in the same year.  Knowing how difficult it is to win at that level makes those 5 players great using my definition, even if they never teed it up a a pro.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 10:46 AM

View Posthell_is_chrome, on 28 January 2019 - 07:43 AM, said:

View Postelwhippy, on 27 January 2019 - 08:25 PM, said:

Weak field in Dubai? Eh? Garcia, Els, Li, Wallace, Westwood.....

This isn't making the point you think it is.

Might have sounded better with Garcia, Fleetwood, Poulter, Wallace... maybe?

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 12:11 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 27 January 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostDavePelz4, on 27 January 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

Bobby Jones was a helluva basketball player for the 76'ers in 70's.  Think he averaged double digit points and was an all star a few times.  This is probably what the OP is referring to in his post.

Yeah he was good. But I think he’s referring to the televangelist

2 MLB pitchers named Bobby Jones, I was thinking of..

Anyway, I'm shocked.  Bryson will win a major this year, last year is NOT important.  The guy is on the trajectory to win a major soon, whether you like him or not.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 12:14 PM

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 09:52 AM, said:

Re: Jones won 44% of his starts. I'd think that qualifies as one of the greatest. He won for USO 3 open Championships and  5 us arms and a British am. That's not greatness?



Jones was solid and consistent player at a time when golf was being played by fewer people.
The odds were in his favor.

actually 4 US opens, 3 Opens.......and he was more than 'solid and consistent'......you just don't win 7 of these because the 'field wan thinner' at that time.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 12:17 PM

View Postmocokid, on 28 January 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 27 January 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostDavePelz4, on 27 January 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

Bobby Jones was a helluva basketball player for the 76'ers in 70's.  Think he averaged double digit points and was an all star a few times.  This is probably what the OP is referring to in his post.

Yeah he was good. But I think he’s referring to the televangelist

2 MLB pitchers named Bobby Jones, I was thinking of..

Anyway, I'm shocked.  Bryson will win a major this year, last year is NOT important.  The guy is on the trajectory to win a major soon, whether you like him or not.

Majors are a different level, the best players trying to peak to play their best golf on some of the most challenging courses they will see all season.  I don't know if BC has the game or proper mindset to win a Major yet but I do expect him to make a better showing that he has in past years.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 12:27 PM

Perhaps OP meant the late Davy Jones...

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:43 PM

View Posttgreenwood11, on 27 January 2019 - 05:44 PM, said:

although a pro. If anyone can win all 4 majors in a single year; it’s him. 😀
With your imagination you should move to Hollyweird and write science fiction.


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:58 PM

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 08:32 AM, said:

Jones was "influential" but not one of greatest.  
Bryson is also "influential" but not even close to greatness, yet.

Jones was widely regarded as the greatest ever when he retired from the game.  There were those who made a case for Hagen, or Vardon, but until Jack came along, he was regarded as the greatest major champion ever.  A pure natural talent if there ever was one.  Truly a legend in his spare time.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:38 PM

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 09:52 AM, said:

Re: Jones won 44% of his starts. I'd think that qualifies as one of the greatest. He won for USO 3 open Championships and  5 us arms and a British am. That's not greatness?



Jones was solid and consistent player at a time when golf was being played by fewer people.
The odds were in his favor.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:48 PM

View Postmocokid, on 28 January 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

View Postdlygrisse, on 27 January 2019 - 08:39 PM, said:

View PostDavePelz4, on 27 January 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

Bobby Jones was a helluva basketball player for the 76'ers in 70's.  Think he averaged double digit points and was an all star a few times.  This is probably what the OP is referring to in his post.

Yeah he was good. But I think heís referring to the televangelist

2 MLB pitchers named Bobby Jones, I was thinking of..

Anyway, I'm shocked.  Bryson will win a major this year, last year is NOT important.  The guy is on the trajectory to win a major soon, whether you like him or not.

Wasnít Sergio in that same trajectory?

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 02:54 PM

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Bryson definitely appears to grind emotionally as much as Jones, at least from what I see in Bryson and have read about Jones...I imagine that will take a toll on him as he approaches his 30's.

The guy has so much talent though...almost every aspect of the game is strong and now that he's getting more comfortable with closing out W's, I wouldn't be surprised to see him win a pair of majors one of these seasons.
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Posted 28 January 2019 - 03:30 PM

Many of these "remarks" about Bobby Jones, included, but certainly not limited to "you beat who you play", are from the same people, I suppose, that have stated on this very forum that winning these days is "more difficult" due to the field being "deeper" with talent.  Moreover, this logic was used to explain away "why" Tiger Woods won so frequently.  


I am simply trying to assert that Bobby Jones was an exceptionally gifted golfer during a time when the filed was not so "rich" with talent.


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 04:46 PM

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

Many of these "remarks" about Bobby Jones, included, but certainly not limited to "you beat who you play", are from the same people, I suppose, that have stated on this very forum that winning these days is "more difficult" due to the field being "deeper" with talent.  Moreover, this logic was used to explain away "why" Tiger Woods won so frequently.  


I am simply trying to assert that Bobby Jones was an exceptionally gifted golfer during a time when the filed was not so "rich" with talent.

You can make that argument, but the way I see it, if when you retire you are regarded the greatest ever, then you have done what you can do.  To me the greatest golfers ever look something like this, simply because they were the greatest ever when they hung up the spikes.  

Young Tom Morris
Harry Vardon
Bobby Jones
Jack Nicklaus
Tiger Woods

They each set the bar higher during their era, set a new standard on what could be done, then paved the way for those who followed.  Some people might throw Hogan/Snead/Nelson in there but they all had their shortcomings even though they all 3 dominated in their own way.  Those 5 all contributed to the game by setting a new standard of play, and all had huge influences on and off the course.  Harry, Bobby, Jack and Tiger all grew the game through writing, instruction, media, course design and spreading the game around the world.  Young Tom died too early, but his father and him combined were clearly the dominate force in the game during their era, with the father designing many courses including modernizing the Old Course.  

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 05:28 PM

He's obviously very solid when things are going well, but I'm still not sold that he will remain stable when things start going sideways.....

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:18 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 28 January 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:

View PostFerguson, on 28 January 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

Many of these "remarks" about Bobby Jones, included, but certainly not limited to "you beat who you play", are from the same people, I suppose, that have stated on this very forum that winning these days is "more difficult" due to the field being "deeper" with talent.  Moreover, this logic was used to explain away "why" Tiger Woods won so frequently.  


I am simply trying to assert that Bobby Jones was an exceptionally gifted golfer during a time when the filed was not so "rich" with talent.

You can make that argument, but the way I see it, if when you retire you are regarded the greatest ever, then you have done what you can do.  To me the greatest golfers ever look something like this, simply because they were the greatest ever when they hung up the spikes.  

Young Tom Morris
Harry Vardon
Bobby Jones
Jack Nicklaus
Tiger Woods

They each set the bar higher during their era, set a new standard on what could be done, then paved the way for those who followed.  Some people might throw Hogan/Snead/Nelson in there but they all had their shortcomings even though they all 3 dominated in their own way.  Those 5 all contributed to the game by setting a new standard of play, and all had huge influences on and off the course.  Harry, Bobby, Jack and Tiger all grew the game through writing, instruction, media, course design and spreading the game around the world.  Young Tom died too early, but his father and him combined were clearly the dominate force in the game during their era, with the father designing many courses including modernizing the Old Course.  

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 07:44 PM

View PostDavePelz4, on 27 January 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

Bobby Jones was a helluva basketball player for the 76'ers in 70's.  Think he averaged double digit points and was an all star a few times.  This is probably what the OP is referring to in his post.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 08:57 PM

Bobby Jones was a gentleman whoís contributions to golf went far beyond what he did on the golf course. There would not be a Masters without Bobby Jones and there are few that would argue thatís not the finest golf tournament going. Jones also conducted himself professionally on and off the course. Bryson is one of the brightest young talents out there but thatís where the comparisons end at this point.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 09:22 PM

They are both humans...so there’s that

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 11:26 PM

I think his biggest test will be being in contention for the majors and not having much of a following/hearing the crowds go for the other players around him. His swing is going to line up with how his personality comes off to many: rigid. I don't think he'll garner a lot of love out there with his pre-Sunday interviews, and I don't think what he does on the course will pull a lot of people in. Having the weight of those tournaments on him with a crowd that's hoping almost anyone else at the top but him wins is going to be brutal, and even if he breaks through I doubt that will change much in the future.

Maybe I'm being a bit harsh with my expectations of how he'll be received on the whole when he's in contention, but I don't see it going well, especially with players who know the courses better using every bit of knowledge to get a leg up. His swing certainly does have the potential to keep him in play at something like the U.S. Open and safe from brutal rough, but I don't think the hardships that might crop up will suit his mechanical style at all.

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 11:39 PM

View PostJackhammer993, on 28 January 2019 - 08:57 PM, said:

Bobby Jones was a gentleman who's contributions to golf went far beyond what he did on the golf course. There would not be a Masters without Bobby Jones and there are few that would argue that's not the finest golf tournament going. Jones also conducted himself professionally on and off the course. Bryson is one of the brightest young talents out there but that's where the comparisons end at this point.

To date, Bryson hasn't walked off the course during the third round of the British Open either.
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Posted 29 January 2019 - 12:58 AM

View Postdlygrisse, on 27 January 2019 - 06:43 PM, said:


brilliant! well played sir!!

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