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#1 KRAMER1997

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 01:09 PM

I was recently listening to a podcast on Instagram where Kevin Kisner was being interview and apparently the 5th hole at Augusta has been lengthened to 495 yards. Is that true because I haven't heard or read anything about that.


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#2 grm24

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 01:12 PM

View PostKRAMER1997, on 22 January 2019 - 01:09 PM, said:

I was recently listening to a podcast on Instagram where Kevin Kisner was being interview and apparently the 5th hole at Augusta has been lengthened to 495 yards. Is that true because I haven't heard or read anything about that.
Very true. Has been discussed and in the media for some time.

https://www.pga.com/...making-5th-hole

https://golfweek.com...hened-30-yards/

https://www.golfchan...anges-no-5-angc

Edited by grm24, 22 January 2019 - 01:14 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2019 - 03:19 PM

It's going to make one of the toughest holes on the course already just absolutely brutal!

Interested to see how it plays out come April...79 days to go.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 03:42 PM

Is it true they are renaming # 5, "Pickled Pear?"

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 05:39 PM

I heard the new name was flowering golden colicroot ....native species of course.

Supposedly adding 19 mega hardwood trees and 13 hardwood trees as well as 7 mega pine trees.  

All I can picture with “mega” is maybe they are  digging up old growth forests somewhere to replant on site.  If so why not replace the Eisenhower tree?   Me thinks it wasn’t a natural storm that took it down.  Contrails seeding clouds by Augusta national ?

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 05:42 PM

And in true ANCG fashion, they will make the hole look like it has been that way for the last 50 years.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:26 PM

View PostFerguson, on 22 January 2019 - 03:42 PM, said:

Is it true they are renaming # 5, "Pickled Pear?"

I heard Pr-ckly Pear & The Golden Bear

Edited by cardoustie, 22 January 2019 - 11:28 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:53 AM

There's a contemporary overhead shot available on Google Maps.  Looks like they stuffed a tee right behind the 4th green.  They didn't go across Old Berckmans Road as originally speculated.

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Edited by MountainGoat, 23 January 2019 - 07:57 AM.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:04 AM

View PostMountainGoat, on 23 January 2019 - 07:53 AM, said:

There's a contemporary overhead shot available on Google Maps.  Looks like they stuffed a tee right behind the 4th green.  They didn't go across Old Berckmans Road as originally speculated.

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That's weird as one of the articles stated the reasoning was to alleviate congestion between 4th green and 5th tee. What could the rationale be for lengthening the hole as it ranked relatively difficult?

Are they adjusting the green at all? Seems like the green would be very difficult with an extra 30 yards on the approach.

I really like the hole and it was a testing par 4. They get it right at ANGC so I'm sure it will be good.

Edited by OldTomMorris, 23 January 2019 - 10:48 AM.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:09 AM

Now lets fix 17 and 18 and the complete round will be a feast for the eye.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:01 AM

I just found it interesting that they decided to lengthen the hole because traditionally it's one of the top 5 toughest holes on the course. I think the course is perfect the way it is, but if I were to change the course, I would do one thing. I'd shorten the 7th hole so that players can hit more wedges into the green, maybe even make it drivable one of the days. I think it would be interesting to see if players would take on that hole at 350 given the severe bunkering around the green.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 10:11 AM

The 5th is one of the hardest holes and one of the trickiest greens on the course. What podcast was Kisner talking about this? Im guessing he wasn’t thrilled.

Holes that should be altered? 17 & 18.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:10 AM

Here it is

https://twitter.com/...741712875880449

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:24 PM

Augusta has 2 weeks holes IMHO. 9 and 18. 9s only defence is an insane green and 18 is about 40 yards too long.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 01:31 AM

View PostMountainGoat, on 23 January 2019 - 07:53 AM, said:

There's a contemporary overhead shot available on Google Maps.  Looks like they stuffed a tee right behind the 4th green.  They didn't go across Old Berckmans Road as originally speculated.

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That tee has been there for years. It's the current pre-2019 tournament tee that plays at 455 yards. The forward tee shown plays at 400 yards. The tee in the picture you provided does not alleviate the congestion issue behind the 4th green and 5th tee. Your picture is not current. Picture below from 2014.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 06:49 AM

Yeah, I think you're right.  I just looked at the Bing overhead which comes from a time before the entry area was revised, and that tee behind the 4th is clearly visible.

Edited by MountainGoat, 24 January 2019 - 07:00 AM.


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Posted 28 January 2019 - 01:40 AM

View PostMattyO1984, on 22 January 2019 - 03:19 PM, said:

It's going to make one of the toughest holes on the course already just absolutely brutal!

Interested to see how it plays out come April...79 days to go.

Hard to believe it is so soon!

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:03 AM

Just happened to come across the below what looks like a 360 drone picture in the park beside Augusta National.  You can see they had the whole 5th hole torn up when that was taken in July 18.

Interesting the work they have done on the bit of land they bought from Augusta Country Club behind 12th Green / 13th Tee, an unusual looking tree left there all on its own, almost like the 13th tee could go back there some day!

https://www.google.c...0!7i8192!8i4096

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Posted 12 February 2019 - 10:43 AM

View Postpmadden86, on 12 February 2019 - 10:03 AM, said:

Just happened to come across the below what looks like a 360 drone picture in the park beside Augusta National.  You can see they had the whole 5th hole torn up when that was taken in July 18.

Interesting the work they have done on the bit of land they bought from Augusta Country Club behind 12th Green / 13th Tee, an unusual looking tree left there all on its own, almost like the 13th tee could go back there some day!

https://www.google.c...0!7i8192!8i4096

They either change equipment standards or the 13th tee will be back there someday.

Interesting that the new 10th hole at Augusta Country Club was under construction.
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Posted 12 February 2019 - 05:02 PM

View PostKRAMER1997, on 23 January 2019 - 10:01 AM, said:

I just found it interesting that they decided to lengthen the hole because traditionally it's one of the top 5 toughest holes on the course. I think the course is perfect the way it is, but if I were to change the course, I would do one thing. I'd shorten the 7th hole so that players can hit more wedges into the green, maybe even make it drivable one of the days. I think it would be interesting to see if players would take on that hole at 350 given the severe bunkering around the green.

I remember #7 when it was 360.


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Posted 12 February 2019 - 05:29 PM

 pmadden86, on 12 February 2019 - 10:03 AM, said:

Just happened to come across the below what looks like a 360 drone picture in the park beside Augusta National.  You can see they had the whole 5th hole torn up when that was taken in July 18.

Interesting the work they have done on the bit of land they bought from Augusta Country Club behind 12th Green / 13th Tee, an unusual looking tree left there all on its own, almost like the 13th tee could go back there some day!

https://www.google.c...0!7i8192!8i4096

Nice find. Are they adding a bunker in front of 11 green?

Jesus they do a lot of work every year.

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