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QOTD: Should the PGA Show be open to the Public?

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#1 GolfChannel

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:21 AM

Question of the Day:

Should the PGA Show be open to the general public or at least offer a set amount of public tickets every year?

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:38 AM

No.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:50 AM

While most of us on here would love to go drool over the new stuff I say no.  It is really all about getting your clubs, new clothing line, or whatever else your trying to sell into pro shops and golf stores.  If I were a startup company spending a bunch of money to be there I would be ticked off if I had to spend a day with lookie loos.  

But I still would love to walk around and eye ball all the new toys!

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:52 AM

No

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 06:39 PM

Absolutely not.


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Posted 22 January 2019 - 06:48 PM

No. Having been there once, it is very important for vendors to form business relationships / make deals.  

Plus the coverage we get from golfwrx is so extensive, there really is no need.  Just saves you a whole lot of walking to click and scroll through their pics.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:33 PM

1000% No. Although people in the golf industry have a lot of fun during the week of the PGA Merchandise Show, it's still a week of business and forming new relationships with one another.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:36 PM

QOTD: Should we stop having QOTDs?  I mean the answer is usually fairly obvious, as in this case.

It is not open to the public for a reason - it's a Vegas trade show (that's not in Vegas), and a chance for the Players in the equipment industry to get together and bounce ideas around, try to get some purchase orders from retailers, and probably play some golf.  Sure, I'd like to go ONCE, but after that would probably be like the North Coast Golf Expo each year.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:50 PM

No, but I do wish that the Golfweek Golfest was right after like it used to be.  I was there every year, but slowly the vendors stopped staying.  Last one  I remember was on the range at Champions Gate and had about 10 tents and that was it.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 08:04 PM

Nope. But itd be fun to get to attend

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:12 PM

Historically no as it is a b2b trade show. However, we may see that change in the future with the decline in value that these large trade shows provide to OEMs.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:56 PM

No. It would inundate vendors with countless people that contribute zero to their business and keep them from doing what they are there for in the first place.
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:28 AM

Ill go against the grain and say yes BUT it should be after the Show is over for the shops and people doing business. Let the new up and coming companies that want to stick around, stick around. Let some of the mail order or direct to consumer companies do some business and generate some buzz.

That said, that should be after the show is done with the shops, pros, courses, etc. No way should the general public be there during those days.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 12:31 AM

As much as I’d like to go, it should stay the way it is.
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:09 AM

View Postmallrat, on 23 January 2019 - 12:28 AM, said:

I'll go against the grain and say yes BUT it should be after the Show is over for the shops and people doing business. Let the new up and coming companies that want to stick around, stick around. Let some of the mail order or direct to consumer companies do some business and generate some buzz.

That said, that should be after the show is done with the shops, pros, courses, etc. No way should the general public be there during those days.

This is in line with what I thought, which is a "qualified" yes. There should be industry-specific days, but if they opened the weekend to a public preview (even a limited one) they would probably generate a ton of additional buzz and potential business with early release to those in attendance (at normal cost or even show specific package deals).

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:20 AM

yes, but maybe on a sunday only

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 01:32 PM

Noooo. Manufacturers would give everyone the same amount of liberty to fiddle with the clubs and event that 1 mile long range at Orange County National wouldn't be big enough to hold the amount of people that would go.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:05 PM

View Posthalliedog, on 22 January 2019 - 07:36 PM, said:

QOTD: Should we stop having QOTDs?  I mean the answer is usually fairly obvious, as in this case.

It is not open to the public for a reason - it's a Vegas trade show (that's not in Vegas), and a chance for the Players in the equipment industry to get together and bounce ideas around, try to get some purchase orders from retailers, and probably play some golf.  Sure, I'd like to go ONCE, but after that would probably be like the North Coast Golf Expo each year.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

No.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:36 PM

What is this QOTD stuff?

What was yesterday's? Would the answer help me buy cheese?

Edited by Hawkeye77, 23 January 2019 - 03:37 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:38 PM

No, it's not a GolfShow for the retail public, it's for retailers to decide what they'll be carrying.
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:38 PM

No. Do you want some moke off the street interrupting, asking questions, and looking for free stuff while you're trying to conduct your business?

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 03:41 PM

Nope.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 05:46 PM

I don't think it matters. The PGA Show has become a shell of its former self. I don't think it will exist in 10 years.
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:14 AM

I don't see why they couldn't offer maybe one day for the public, on the final day maybe. Sell tickets, $10/$20 to get in an offset the cost and provide more for the industry folks who sometimes spend big $ to travel to the show for their business.

I have gone a couple of times, and I do enjoy it being industry only for the couple days I go, that is for sure.


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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:40 AM

Another year with the same question and the correct answer never changes.

No and hell no.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 08:42 AM

View PoststevoleB, on 24 January 2019 - 08:14 AM, said:

I don't see why they couldn't offer maybe one day for the public, on the final day maybe. Sell tickets, $10/$20 to get in an offset the cost and provide more for the industry folks who sometimes spend big $ to travel to the show for their business.

I have gone a couple of times, and I do enjoy it being industry only for the couple days I go, that is for sure.

Why should they? There is no valid reason and it's a waste of time and resources.

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Posted 24 January 2019 - 10:13 AM

View PostMr. Hogan, on 23 January 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

I don't think it matters. The PGA Show has become a shell of its former self. I don't think it will exist in 10 years.

Basically, why I asked the question.
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 11:00 AM

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Posted 25 January 2019 - 02:28 PM

Probably not. This is a B2B event, and the general public would not mesh well. I will lead off with an analysis of changing status of the show, and follow up with problems with the general public.

A theme from across golfdom: the PGA Merchandise Show has become more a celebration of golf than three days of deal-making from years past.

A manager and club-fitter from a local golf chain says with the modern supply-chain function and merchandise plans, he makes most of his company's orders in the Fall quarter. This same point appears in a recent commentary on the event:
https://mygolfspy.co...till-relevant/

Also, major OEMs sometimes skip the event if they don't have a lot of new models to showcase. Nike skipped in 2016, and announced a few weeks later than it was exiting the golf hard-goods industry. TaylorMade is skipping 2019 to save money.

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Purchasing connections from some of the smaller apparel manufacturers and are more likely to take place at the merchandise show than major hard-good orders.

Also, the show serves the PGA of America, letting the manufacturers discuss the future equipment concepts with the club pros. And, club pros are often equipment advisors for their equipment sponsor.

I got to go to the 2016 show, a one-time shot as a correspondent for a golf blog. It is definitely a B2B atmosphere. In all our blog stories and video clips uploaded from on site, correspondents were required to mention that this was a B2B event not open to the general public.

Why to leave out the general public?

Again, this is a B2B event, well covered by different branches of the media.

First of all, how would you decide who gets to go? From upscale clubs, will the board chairman hold a grudge against the head pro if he and his wife don't get to go?

Second, do club and public golfers know how to behave? Would they expect a cornucopia of freebies? A company that manages local courses quit attending the local golf expo. Rather than purchasing discount passes, most attendees thought they were entitled to a free foursome of golf. Despite the circus atmosphere, freebies at the M-S are rather limited, even for insiders.

Backers of letting the public into the show say they can try out golf clubs at the demo day and maybe buy some. The demo day, as is, is a sea of people. The general public would only add to the congestion.

And do you want them buying clubs there?. That's the purpose of local demo days. Bring in the public to Orlando, and you're taking business away from local club pros - many of whom are PGA members - and off-course local shops. The OEMs want to maintain good relations with the locals - not undercut them.

Others suggest extending the show into a full Friday and Saturday segment just for the general public. Bad idea! Having seen one show, I can tell you that after the Monday set-up, the Tuesday demo day, and followup 12-hour event cycles, everyone is running on empty by Thursday evening. Customer-service attitudes would be at dangerously low levels by Saturday AM.

So, let's review: The PGA M-Show is a B2B event. It needs to stay that way, even if the industry has to contract its scope a bit.

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