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#1 mrmikeac

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:16 AM

The whole head is metal injection molded.

Looks great!

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:20 AM

Are those available now? Loved my Cobra PUR wedges but they are getting a little long in the tooth.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 12:11 PM

And this is good?....Bad?.... Doesn’t matter?

I just looked up Metal  injection molding on Wikipedia and I can’t seem to figure out why this process is something the average joe should care about or why Cobra would care to market a club that way.

It is a quite interesting read, but I don’t see the benefits to the end user. It isn’t stronger or “better” that I can tell. Is it cheaper than casting or forging?  Is it quicker? More precise? Will we get less expensive golf clubs?

Lots of questions but I do find the new technique quite interesting.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 12:46 PM

Does this process perhaps result in greater uniformity throughout the head as opposed to a traditional casting process?  Maybe reduce or eliminate the chances of air pockets that can affect feel/sound?  Just wondering - don't know.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 01:56 PM

Metal injection is based on plastic injection and if they share the same benefits it will produce heads much faster than regular castings and the tolerances will be better aswell.

I only deal with plastic injection so these are my thoughts, but it is quite impressive how fast it can produce complex parts.


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Posted 22 January 2019 - 02:29 PM

What would you compare these wedges to amongst the competition? Would it be similar in performance to something like the MD4 or the RTX-4 or is this aimed at a completely different market?

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 02:30 PM

View Postcforselius, on 22 January 2019 - 01:56 PM, said:

Metal injection is based on plastic injection and if they share the same benefits it will produce heads much faster than regular castings and the tolerances will be better aswell.

I only deal with plastic injection so these are my thoughts, but it is quite impressive how fast it can produce complex parts.

FAR. more complicated than plastic and more steps.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 03:26 PM

Hmmm yeah not sure the benefits of doing this for something that's not very complex in shape or structure. Perhaps a way to ensure better QC? It sounds like how they make sintered magnets for large motor applications when machining is difficult and needs to be really precision without machine steps.

Kiiiiiind of seems like more of a marketing ploy than an actual technological jump in wedge performance. Also, as an aside, I really wish Cobra would make high bounce relief ground wedge design like the vokey D grind. I loved all my Cobra wedges but the "low" grind didn't have enough bounce for soft conditions. Many a sod was laid using my PUR's and my Tour Trusty's.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 03:55 PM

In for more info!

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 04:25 PM

To help settle this MIM process decision by Cobra, I believe it is to tighten the tolerances from club head to club head to keep the consistency as tight as they can. Seems to be the trend in golf club manufacturing lately.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 08:55 PM

So is this MIM stuff more durable? Tighter tolerances? Softer feel? I don't quite get it, but as long as they make the full assortment of wedges, I'm a buyer. My original King Cobra wedges are worn out.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:18 PM

It’s probably easier to finish maybe less steps. Not much of a benefit to the end user but marketing non the less.
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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:02 PM

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 07:44 AM

They do look nice
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Posted 23 January 2019 - 08:01 AM

View PostJagpilotohio, on 22 January 2019 - 12:11 PM, said:

And this is good?....Bad?.... Doesn't matter?

I just looked up Metal  injection molding on Wikipedia and I can't seem to figure out why this process is something the average joe should care about or why Cobra would care to market a club that way.

It is a quite interesting read, but I don't see the benefits to the end user. It isn't stronger or "better" that I can tell. Is it cheaper than casting or forging?  Is it quicker? More precise? Will we get less expensive golf clubs?

Lots of questions but I do find the new technique quite interesting.

Read and learn:

https://en.wikipedia...jection_molding

You'd get a denser finished product than a straight-up casting, and the process produces less waste.

A couple of my engineering buddies worked for DeWalt for a while. The "powdered" metal process is popular for making things like small meshing gears.

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:38 AM

View PostDatSliceDoe, on 22 January 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

So is this MIM stuff more durable? Tighter tolerances? Softer feel? I don't quite get it, but as long as they make the full assortment of wedges, I'm a buyer. My original King Cobra wedges are worn out.

Durability depends on the material used and finish.
Yes to potentially tighter tolerances.  Injection molding is more precise.
Softer feel is based on material and geometry.

In the end, MIM is just another type of manufacturing process and Cobra has a business to run.  It wouldn't be used unless it provides a benefit to product profitability and quality, which could be reducing manufacturing time, scrap and rework of product that didn't quite turn out to spec.
Its benefit is mainly for precision components but with this being a bladed style wedge (aka hunk of metal on a stick), I'm skeptical of significant benefits to the CONSUMER (might be better for Cobra's costs) And then marketing will get the hype machine turning.  I see there's already a nice big "MIM" stamping, yet I don't see "CAST" stamped on my great feeling RTX2's...

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Posted 23 January 2019 - 11:47 AM

Nice looking wedge
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Posted 24 January 2019 - 03:56 AM

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 10:54 AM

Anymore info on these?

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Posted 05 February 2019 - 11:00 AM

Potentially cheaper for Cobra and they will probably charge more.

Sounds like a great WIN/WIN for you and me!


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 05:12 PM

Any word on a one length version? I like my one length wedges, but would like to see more options and grinds.

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 11:37 AM

Still interested in these. Was a big fan of the Tour Trusty and would definitely game Cobra wedges again.

Just please make a 48* Cobra.
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Posted 16 February 2019 - 01:50 PM

View PostAUTIGER07, on 16 February 2019 - 11:37 AM, said:

Still interested in these. Was a big fan of the Tour Trusty and would definitely game Cobra wedges again.

Just please make a 48* Cobra.

Don’t think they are coming out with a 48 just 50-60, I need more details as well as I will be replacing my wedges

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Posted 16 February 2019 - 03:46 PM

Ugh. Need to make 62 and 64.

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 10:56 AM

Any idea on release date?


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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:11 AM

View PostDatSliceDoe, on 17 February 2019 - 10:56 AM, said:

Any idea on release date?

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Posted 17 February 2019 - 11:41 AM

View Postmtex22, on 17 February 2019 - 11:11 AM, said:

View PostDatSliceDoe, on 17 February 2019 - 10:56 AM, said:

Any idea on release date?

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I emailed cobra asking about the king black wedge and they also said be on the lookout for the mim wedge being released in March or April

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Posted Yesterday, 11:32 PM

March 1st is what cobra rep told me in an email.

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