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M3 & M4 after 1 year. Conclusions


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#1 hackalot

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 04:22 PM

Curious after a year of being out what people's thoughts are on their experience with twist face. Sold on it? Gave up on it? About the same as non twist face?

I bought a M3 early last year and had some mixed results. Had some uncommon misses for me and wondered how much was from twist face. Got rid of it for money and mixed results and went back to Fly-Z+.  Didn't have any of the unusual misses and finished season. Like a true Ho, I find myself wondering if didn't give M3 a long enough run and so thought I'd see what others have experienced and if they still have twist face or have moved on. Thanks for giving experiences.

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 04:29 PM

I love my M4, paired with my usual Oban shaft.

I have no idea if I get anything from Twistface or not. I can for sure still carve it into places that you should be nowhere near - but overall I am very happy with it and won't be changing this next season as it stands.

The M3 for me gives me too many choices, not a good thing for me - the less the better; jus thee it up and hit it :)
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Posted 19 January 2019 - 04:37 PM

I've had M3 for nearly a year.....tried 5-7 shafts settling on S+ Ltd 60 regular.....had some absolute bombs with it .....like the sound; love the shape....

I hit the newer stuff from 18 and some retro stuff from as far back as 2007.....just overall consistency and confidence is high with this club....added is the twist face effect....I'm a toe miss player and I get nothing but great results from that position on the face  ...

I'll hit the 2019 stuff but actual gains are going to be hard especially at these prices!

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Posted 19 January 2019 - 11:57 PM

Watching Crossfield's review on M3 made me wonder about his "I worry about being able to keep it on the planet" comment. I know I've read that some had said they found weird ball flights and dumped it while others say they believe it helps and love it.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:10 AM

I love my m3 , if issued with the right shaft it can't be beat, I owned the cortex, ts2, srixon 785


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Posted 20 January 2019 - 12:36 AM

M4 is a forgiving driver for me. But I will check out the M5/6 to see if I can gain any distance.
Those that eschew Twist face like Crossfield have limited understanding of physics.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 02:11 AM

Only had mine six months but we still play through the winter here. For me, it’s the best driver I’ve ever had but I did get fit for my M3.

Twist face is not a huge game changer, if i push or pull it the ball cant be saved. I have found there’s always one or two drives a round though that I’ve hit and expected them to be in the rough, but when I’ve gotten to the ball it’s just in the fairway. Doesn’t sound like much but at our place being just in the rough can be so penal on some holes.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 02:39 AM

I’ve played M4 for about 6 or 7 months now, but am thinking about going back to either my 2016 M2 or 2017 M1 440. The M1/M2 line just has a feel and sound that can’t be beat for me. Probably going to let the M4 go soon.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:08 AM

I actually bought an M3 9.5 played it with weights forward for the most part. Hated it and sold it. Tried out some other drivers nothing I loved

Decided to buy an 8.5 M3 Head, lofted down with the weights all the way back and I have loved it ever since. Really seemed to unlock the potential of the head.

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:30 AM

View PostPatsNation, on 20 January 2019 - 07:08 AM, said:

I actually bought an M3 9.5 played it with weights forward for the most part. Hated it and sold it. Tried out some other drivers nothing I loved

Decided to buy an 8.5 M3 Head, lofted down with the weights all the way back and I have loved it ever since. Really seemed to unlock the potential of the head.

Funny as I normally use 10.5* but during fitting I tried the 9.5* head.....perfect match!


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Posted 20 January 2019 - 02:53 PM

I was one of those golfers that tended to tinker a lot with the driver.  I've had about every brand and shaft combination that supposedly fit my swing.  However, by happen-stance, I gave the M4 a run with the stock Atmos Red and hit nothing but straight bombs.  I am not just keeping it in or near the fairway, but as long as I've been with any other combination I've played; it's staying put this year.  I'm now going to give the M4 fairway a run with the same shaft.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 05:38 PM

Never thought I’d kick my m3 out of the bag. Then gained 11yds with my 8.5 ts3

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Posted 20 January 2019 - 05:47 PM

M4 went into the bag in Jan, 2018 and had not left it since. No driver fixes a big pull or push but my toe hook mostly stays in play. I’ll hit everything I can at demo days but it’s going to take something “wow” to push the m4 out of my bag.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 06:35 PM

Iíll say this just by the absence of them on the BST lefty forum they must be out of this world.  I been looking for one for months and they very very come up for sale which tells me a lot.  Iíve been a long time 16 M2 player and really want to see if anything is bettter for me.  Going to be able to hit a lh M6 tomorrow and Iíll gauge it against my M2.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 06:54 PM

View Postmmarler, on 20 January 2019 - 06:35 PM, said:

Iíll say this just by the absence of them on the BST lefty forum they must be out of this world.  I been looking for one for months and they very very come up for sale which tells me a lot.  Iíve been a long time 16 M2 player and really want to see if anything is bettter for me.  Going to be able to hit a lh M6 tomorrow and Iíll gauge it against my M2.
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Posted 20 January 2019 - 07:48 PM

Idk about twist face but the forgiveness and length combination of the m4 is spectacular

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 08:36 AM

Started the year with a M3 440 & Ended the year with a M4.......

I find the M4 is much easier to hit consistently and the head shape is very nice considering it's a 440 head....frames the ball much smaller than the 17 M2
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Posted 21 January 2019 - 09:14 AM

Tried M3 & M4 indoors Trackman start of the season, was not sold since my miss felt like it got worse with TFace..

Didn't like the open face and hard feel off the M3, liked the sound off the M4 and the looks. Also the price was off putting, so didn't give them a second try. Didn't see anyone gaming M3/M4 all summer long at my club. One of the issues was there was no demo heads in the retail stores to take out to the golf course to see the performance, so couldn't test the drivers IRL..

But I did saw the success TM was having all over the world at the tours (btw. M4 won on the PGA tour last time 16h ago) and come fall time, the prices started to fall and decided to pull a trigger on a M4 D-Type 10,5 since I found one 60% off on the asking price. Put my gamer shaft in it and was blown away by the feel and the the performance, felt like I could really give it the beans and the flight was amazing, ball wanted to go high and straight. Went to a launch monitor and saw I was actually gaming too much loft so come Demo club sale time, pulled a trigger in a 9,5 head and it goes like stink. So if I would have pulled the trigger on it start of the season, there is no telling how much I would have gained over the season on my driving. Will demo M5/M6 start of the season and get a proper fitting, not gonna miss out on a great driver another season even though it's going to cost a s*** ton. Already tested them and the new heads felt even better, look better and the ball speed story was there for me also.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 07:09 PM

View Posthackalot, on 19 January 2019 - 11:57 PM, said:

Watching Crossfield's review on M3 made me wonder about his "I worry about being able to keep it on the planet" comment. I know I've read that some had said they found weird ball flights and dumped it while others say they believe it helps and love it.


Crossfield is paid by Titleist. I would not consider him credible.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 11:43 PM

View PostZBigStick, on 20 January 2019 - 12:36 AM, said:

M4 is a forgiving driver for me. But I will check out the M5/6 to see if I can gain any distance.
Those that eschew Twist face like Crossfield have limited understanding of physics.
Crossfield has a limited understanding about golf. I tired of his videos long ago.

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Posted 21 January 2019 - 11:47 PM

 BeachsideGolfer, on 20 January 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Never thought I’d kick my m3 out of the bag. Then gained 11yds with my 8.5 ts3

+1 same for me

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:24 AM

had the M3 in the bag for about a year.... I'm really happy with it.  I'm not sure I buy into all the twist face stuff but I do buy that its a solid driver.  It will be a tough one to unseat from my bag.  I came from the Epic SZ before this and while the Epic was long I struggled to play golf with it.  I could hit some wild tee shots with it from time to time, I don't seem to have those issues with the M3.

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Posted 22 January 2019 - 11:01 AM

Decent heads but Iím personally waiting for the M19/20 heads to be launched sometime soon.
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 02:31 PM

Thanks for the feedback
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 03:37 PM

Played 17 M2 for a season and half, tried rogue subzero half way but switched back to M2, then recently replaced m2 with a tour issue m4 (much cheaper than a new driver head), same shaft (pro orange), can confirm that my toe misses are fairly straight with the M4. My heel misses are very rare so cannot say too much on that. Theres not much difference in centre hit. M4 overall probably spins slightly less than M2, but it could be the difference btn a tour issue head and a retail one.

The twist face definitely straighten up the misses


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Posted 10 February 2019 - 05:23 PM

 Zigzog, on 19 January 2019 - 04:29 PM, said:

I love my M4, paired with my usual Oban shaft.

I have no idea if I get anything from Twistface or not. I can for sure still carve it into places that you should be nowhere near - but overall I am very happy with it and won't be changing this next season as it stands.

The M3 for me gives me too many choices, not a good thing for me - the less the better; jus thee it up and hit it :)

Just leave it in neutral and forget it.  Nobody making you tinker with it.   😆
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 05:25 PM

 BeachsideGolfer, on 20 January 2019 - 05:38 PM, said:

Never thought Iíd kick my m3 out of the bag. Then gained 11yds with my 8.5 ts3

Why do think that is?   Higher ball speed?  Lower spin?  Can you provide any data?

Hereís my thoughts... 10+ yards just changing clubs means that you werenít properly fit before.  Drivers are all too close in performance nowadays.
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Posted 10 February 2019 - 05:31 PM

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 07:17 PM

 hackalot, on 19 January 2019 - 11:57 PM, said:

Watching Crossfield's review on M3 made me wonder about his "I worry about being able to keep it on the planet" comment. I know I've read that some had said they found weird ball flights and dumped it while others say they believe it helps and love it.

Crossfield gave that review right after Taylormade cut him off.  I have the M3 and I haven't looked at another driver since.  It's long and straight for me.  My miss is that open face push to the right that Crossfield and others referenced and I haven't noticed anything crazy at all.  In fact, I've worked hard to get rid of my sway and that miss has been gone for months now.

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Posted 10 February 2019 - 08:41 PM

I was very impressed with the length and forgiveness with the M3. However, after the carbon fiber on the bottom cracked on my THIRD head, I decided that I needed to go a different direction. I got a TS3 and, while I've been impressed with the accuracy, I've lost about 10 yards compared to the M3.

Titleist TS3 8.5* - Matrix MFS Black Tie 70X
Callaway Rogue Subzero 13.5* - HZRDUS Yellow 83X
Callaway Rogue Subzero 18* - Accra 380 M5
Miura 501CB 3-PW - KBS Tour 130X
Callaway MD4 52* W Grind and 58* X Grind - DG X100
Byron Morgan 612 35"

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