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If you could only play one Phoenix area course NOT TPC Stadium...


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#1 imafishermn

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:11 PM

I'm going to be in town for business in a couple weeks and we are already playing TPC Scottsdale Stadium - couldn't pass this up since it is the week before the tournament.  Anyway, we may have an extra day of golf...so what is the one course that is your absolutely must-play in the area?  The important things to us are conditions, scenery/memorable, great layout, etc.  I played one of the Troon North courses but it was around 10 yrs ago and it was for a business event, so that didn't really count.  Other than that, I haven't played any other courses in that area.

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#2 DrSchteeve

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:14 PM

Wekopa Saguaro or Southern Dunes
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:00 PM

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:17 PM

WeKoPa if you want to stay in the Scottsdale area or Southern Dunes if you want to drive a bit and don't care as much about playing a desert course.  Many may not agree but I would through Verrado Founders in the mix as well for both scenery and being a good solid course especially when you consider the price versus other courses here.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:52 PM

Grayhawk Raptor Or Troon Pinnacle as the course if different from 10 years ago

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:58 PM

We-ko-pa Saguara. No question. Unless you like looking at houses then Troon. We-ko-pa is beautiful natural dessert, great condition, awesome layout. Really underrated course in my opinion (and it is ranked in the top 100 public). It is exactly what you are looking for.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:49 PM

We ko pa saguaro

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:10 AM

WeKoPa Saguaro


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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:26 AM

I remember Troon before the houses, played there10 years ago and was surprised at all the housing.  Great courses but as previously said a lot of housing....

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:48 PM

 BUCKEYERBALL88, on 11 January 2019 - 10:49 PM, said:

We ko pa saguaro
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 09:31 PM

Played Stadium today. You're in for a treat. The course is absolutely mint.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:42 PM

Quintero hands down, better layout and condition (when I’ve been) that We Ko Pa, Troon or Greyhawk.  

Enjoyed all but if I only got time for one round it would be Quintero.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 06:03 PM

 DDG61, on 12 January 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

Quintero hands down, better layout and condition (when I’ve been) that We Ko Pa, Troon or Greyhawk.  

Enjoyed all but if I only got time for one round it would be Quintero.

Quintero better lay out than Wekopa....sorry, this is just a pure false statement.  It is a great course for views and scenery for out of towners, but it is is a mediocre layout.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 08:11 PM

 puttnforthe8, on 13 January 2019 - 06:03 PM, said:

 DDG61, on 12 January 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

Quintero hands down, better layout and condition (when I’ve been) that We Ko Pa, Troon or Greyhawk.  

Enjoyed all but if I only got time for one round it would be Quintero.

Quintero better lay out than Wekopa....sorry, this is just a pure false statement.  It is a great course for views and scenery for out of towners, but it is is a mediocre layout.

Not sure opinions can be false but you disagree, no worries.  None of the many courses listed is going to send someone away unhappy.

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 08:56 PM

 DDG61, on 13 January 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

 puttnforthe8, on 13 January 2019 - 06:03 PM, said:

 DDG61, on 12 January 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

Quintero hands down, better layout and condition (when Iíve been) that We Ko Pa, Troon or Greyhawk.  

Enjoyed all but if I only got time for one round it would be Quintero.

Quintero better lay out than Wekopa....sorry, this is just a pure false statement.  It is a great course for views and scenery for out of towners, but it is is a mediocre layout.

Not sure opinions can be false but you disagree, no worries.  None of the many courses listed is going to send someone away unhappy.
I think his quibble is with layout. Objectively I believe that Quintero isnít in the same league from that perspective. It would be hard for a competent architect to do worse with the land than Rees Jones did. Experience, sure, visitors enjoy it. It is pretty. So is We Ko Pa-Cholla. The design is still terrible though.

We talk about this a lot on this forum. I often recommend those two courses to visitors even though I have zero interest in ever playing either again because I think the layouts are so poor. OTOH, I make sure to hit Saguaro at least once per year because the layout is so solid.


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Posted 13 January 2019 - 09:20 PM

 az2au, on 13 January 2019 - 08:56 PM, said:

 DDG61, on 13 January 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

 puttnforthe8, on 13 January 2019 - 06:03 PM, said:

 DDG61, on 12 January 2019 - 10:42 PM, said:

Quintero hands down, better layout and condition (when I’ve been) that We Ko Pa, Troon or Greyhawk.  

Enjoyed all but if I only got time for one round it would be Quintero.

Quintero better lay out than Wekopa....sorry, this is just a pure false statement.  It is a great course for views and scenery for out of towners, but it is is a mediocre layout.

Not sure opinions can be false but you disagree, no worries.  None of the many courses listed is going to send someone away unhappy.
I think his quibble is with layout. Objectively I believe that Quintero isn’t in the same league from that perspective. It would be hard for a competent architect to do worse with the land than Rees Jones did. Experience, sure, visitors enjoy it. It is pretty. So is We Ko Pa-Cholla. The design is still terrible though.

We talk about this a lot on this forum. I often recommend those two courses to visitors even though I have zero interest in ever playing either again because I think the layouts are so poor. OTOH, I make sure to hit Saguaro at least once per year because the layout is so solid.

I would agree with this completely. I have only been here for 15 months and don’t get to play as much golf as others. I have played Quintero once and have played Grayhawk, Saguaro, and Troon multiple times. I am far from the architecture connoisseur that others around here are. The views and conditions at Quintero were fantastic but the layout is too gimmicky imo.

If you are going for views and conditions over layout, by all means go to Quintero. If you want to play a great course where conditions are always solid I would recommend Saguaro.

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 11:08 AM

Quintero is such an amazing course.....until you realize you just hit nearly the same shot into all the par 3's......  Like TPC scottsdale it is a must play for out of towners as one time around isnt bothersome, and the conditions are very good.


*** Just to be clear WeKoPa Saguaro would be my choice if I had one public round.

Edited by vallygolf, 14 January 2019 - 11:18 AM.


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