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Hybrid / Fairway / Driving Iron - which would you choose?


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#1 bodhi555

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:14 AM

I'm in the process of sorting out my bag for next season, and as far as I can see I have one spot left to fill. Stuff that isn't changing is:

Driver (270+)
3 Wood (240+)
4 Iron (200)
5 iron (185)
6 iron (175)
7 iron (165)
8 iron (150)
9 iron (135)
PW (120)
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All distances are in yards. As you can see the gap I am trying to fill is between 3 Wood and 4 iron - I have a couple of options at the moment but neither are ideal. I have my Vapor Fly Pro 2 Iron which is an absolute rocket launcher off the tee, and OK off the deck if I have a good lie and is good for around 230 yards. I also have my Frankenwood, which is a Vapor Fly 5 Wood with the shaft from a 3 wood in it. Good for about 215 out of just about any lie, but it's not so great off the tee due to the trajectory of the thing (very high, although bizarrely not as high as it was with a 5 Wood shaft in it).

My ideal world would be to keep both the 5 Wood and 2 Iron in the bag, or learn to hit the 2 iron off the deck and just carry that, but I'm also looking at other options. I definitely prefer long irons to fairway woods, so thinking of some sort of hybrid/utility iron to do both tee and fairway and will get me a solid 220 yards down the fairway from either.

What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:19 AM

5wood for you will be too long.

A 19* hybrid or 18-19 degree "driving iron" would be perfect. Whichever one you hit more consistently.

Hybrids- take your pick. Watch out for callaway. The epic hybrid was HOT and long.

Driving irons - srixon, mizuno, ping, tmb are the hot topic items in this category.

Edited by getitdaily, 11 January 2019 - 07:21 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 08:53 AM

Same dilemma... from my recent experience I’d go hybrid over DI. More versatile, forgiving, and get you out there just as far. CBX hybrids are on sale at RBG. Very open with a flat lie angle.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:01 AM

I have basically same bag setup, I go driving iron, I did go hybrid for awhile. Looking down at a driving iron off the tee for me looks easier to hit than a hybrid. The hybrid however was great for par 5s and getting out of the rough on par 5s.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:33 AM

I guess my main concern is around trajectory - I do hit a very high ball hence gravitating more towards long irons to keep it down. I'll be keeping the 2 iron in the locker for windy days and game on the Links (same thing I guess), but is it possible to get a hybrid which keeps the ball down?

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 10:56 AM

Basically same problem as you, except I'm trying to figure out what to take out.  I'm thinking of taking my 3w out, and changing the loft of 5w to 16*, and leaving the 19* hybrid, so I can add a 60* wedge.

Edited by KGilma, 11 January 2019 - 10:58 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:05 AM

View Postbodhi555, on 11 January 2019 - 10:33 AM, said:

I guess my main concern is around trajectory - I do hit a very high ball hence gravitating more towards long irons to keep it down. I'll be keeping the 2 iron in the locker for windy days and game on the Links (same thing I guess), but is it possible to get a hybrid which keeps the ball down?

Sure. Just look for the models that have weight bias forward...

Callaway Apex
TM m1/m3
Titleist h1
Cobra f series + models

TM r15 was a really good hybrid for keeping the ball down.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:09 AM

Depends on your swing speed, dynamic conditions and shot selection.

Assuming these are carry distances - 270 carry means you have some speed. If you don't need the 220-230 yard shot into par 5's/long par 3's very often than 5w is probably out. Some tour guys love the towering flight but for me, they go insanely high and the wind eats them up. So that leaves hybrid or long iron.

I have both because I play different courses that can use either or, depending on the situation. I use the hybrid on courses with the shorter par 5's that I can try and reach in 2 shots, or courses that might have bunkers in that 240-250 yard range that makes 3w a bad choice, and makes it a very tough driver because any kind of miss hit risks landing in them. I use the long iron for courses with tighter fairways and/or par 5's that I know I won't bother going for in 2. It primarily becomes a tee club, or something I might use to chip out under trees but I have an angle down the fairway and I'm not in deep rough.

The hybrid is muuuuuch easier out of bad lies than the long iron though. Also, a hybrid can be used to chip from off the fringe, where a 3i really isn't. Hybrid usually ends up in the bag but the 3i is easier to control, with a little bit less utility.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:13 AM

I cant speak for driving irons, but 5 woods for me have always had a couple of problems; I dont hit them with any consistency, and if I do catch one it often hops over greens.

So when I had the same sort of problem, that my 2 iron stopped working and became a liability, I had the same gap to fill. After trial and error, on a whim I bought an 18 Big Bertha Diablo 2 hybrid with the stock shaft from Play-it-again. $30 for a consistent 230yd laser beam, and my go-to for Par 5s and tight par 4s. Put me in the hybrid camp.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 11:22 AM

Does your current set have a 3 iron option you can pick up? That might be an option and would work.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:03 PM

View Postbodhi555, on 11 January 2019 - 07:14 AM, said:


What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.

My distances are similar to yours, except I have a 4W instead of a 3w.

I ended up going with a Cobra 3-utility. I am more confident with it than with a hybrid and it fits the yardage gap nicely. I reshafted mine with the same shaft that is in my irons and it works great.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:25 PM

View Postjvincent, on 11 January 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postbodhi555, on 11 January 2019 - 07:14 AM, said:


What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.

My distances are similar to yours, except I have a 4W instead of a 3w.

I ended up going with a Cobra 3-utility. I am more confident with it than with a hybrid and it fits the yardage gap nicely. I reshafted mine with the same shaft that is in my irons and it works great.

That's a great option.

The utility isn't exactly a driving iron.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 02:31 PM

View PostIvyguy, on 11 January 2019 - 02:25 PM, said:

View Postjvincent, on 11 January 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

View Postbodhi555, on 11 January 2019 - 07:14 AM, said:

What are my best options? I played on holiday over Xmas and the rental set had an 818 H2 in there, only hit it once but it went like a rocket - nice and low and around the distance I'm looking for. So the 818 H2 19 degree is definitely one I'll be looking at, but are there any other options out there? Only manufacturer I'm not really insterested in is Ping, so am all ears for other suggestions.

My distances are similar to yours, except I have a 4W instead of a 3w.

I ended up going with a Cobra 3-utility. I am more confident with it than with a hybrid and it fits the yardage gap nicely. I reshafted mine with the same shaft that is in my irons and it works great.

That's a great option.

The utility isn't exactly a driving iron.

Yup. I didn't really see the point in a club that I can hit over 220. Let's be honest I'm not that consistent and I'd rather have something that goes 215 max but that I hit more consistently. I play it at "standard" 3-iron length.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:26 PM

Smaller club manufacturer Tour Edge has a hybrid you might like, but I don't know if you can tap their supply chain.

The CBX hybrid model features 1-degree loft changes from 16*-20*, and then jumps to 22*. The TE reps bill it as left-proof. It has robust stock shafts from the Project X HZRDUS Black and Kuro Kage Silver models.

The TE site: https://www.touredge...s/cbxhybrid.asp

One thing to consider is a club that will give you distance out of the rough. A 3H might be better for this than a driving iron. You obviously have excellent clubhead speed if you worry about ballooning a 5W. (If your drives are always down the middle, ignore this paragraph.)
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:50 PM

Hybrid for versatility.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:55 PM

Hybrid is going to give you the most variety of shots in one club without trying to hard. It will be hard to recreate the low/control stinger shot of the 2 iron off the tee and bring it in and stop it as quick as a 5 wood but it covers most of the middle ground. Or just switch out the 2 iron and 5 wood depending on the course and what shots you're going to need.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:55 PM

Hybrids have been out for what?!?! close to 20 years, i'm still trying to figure this question out!!! I miss the days when I had a the back for the 2-Iron that matches my Irons.... from 225-260 I am pretty much lost.... lol
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 05:57 AM

Cheers folks, I've just been down to my club for an iron fitting (not buying new, just getting lofts and lies checked) and asked the fitter about the gap. He gave me an 818 H2 with Rogue Max X flex in it and I am sold. 220 - 230 yards consistent off the deck, same off a tee and lower trajectory than even my 2 iron.

Sounds like witchcraft to me that a 19 degree hybrid can go lower than a 17 degree 2 iron, but I like it. Just waiting for bonus month now and one will be ordered.
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