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Paddy to captain Ryder Cup!


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#31 iBanesto

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 03:54 AM

View PostOldTomMorris, on 10 January 2019 - 03:51 AM, said:

View Postlowheel, on 09 January 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

Congrats to him.Hes also a sacrificial lamb.When they lose stateside he will be mercilessly blamed inevitably...

I disagree to some extent, if a Euro captain loses away from home and does a good job with regards to the players then the criticism seems to be far less. For example Faldo vs Clarke, the levels of criticism for those two were miles apart. Lots of leaks to the press about the former being a bad captain not so much with the latter. I think the Euro press is realistic that the US team will almost always be heavy favourites when playing at home.

James vs Faldo vs Clarke.


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#32 OldTomMorris

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:02 AM

View PostiBanesto, on 10 January 2019 - 03:54 AM, said:

View PostOldTomMorris, on 10 January 2019 - 03:51 AM, said:

View Postlowheel, on 09 January 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

Congrats to him.Hes also a sacrificial lamb.When they lose stateside he will be mercilessly blamed inevitably...

I disagree to some extent, if a Euro captain loses away from home and does a good job with regards to the players then the criticism seems to be far less. For example Faldo vs Clarke, the levels of criticism for those two were miles apart. Lots of leaks to the press about the former being a bad captain not so much with the latter. I think the Euro press is realistic that the US team will almost always be heavy favourites when playing at home.

James vs Faldo vs Clarke.

True but I compared Faldo v Clarke as the matches were very similar - scoreline for example.

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#33 iBanesto

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:25 AM

View PostOldTomMorris, on 10 January 2019 - 04:02 AM, said:

View PostiBanesto, on 10 January 2019 - 03:54 AM, said:

View PostOldTomMorris, on 10 January 2019 - 03:51 AM, said:

View Postlowheel, on 09 January 2019 - 05:09 PM, said:

Congrats to him.Hes also a sacrificial lamb.When they lose stateside he will be mercilessly blamed inevitably...

I disagree to some extent, if a Euro captain loses away from home and does a good job with regards to the players then the criticism seems to be far less. For example Faldo vs Clarke, the levels of criticism for those two were miles apart. Lots of leaks to the press about the former being a bad captain not so much with the latter. I think the Euro press is realistic that the US team will almost always be heavy favourites when playing at home.

James vs Faldo vs Clarke.

True but I compared Faldo v Clarke as the matches were very similar - scoreline for example.

1999 was a one off.

Good point.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:33 AM

For anyone with 90 minutes spare, go on youtube and type in Life on Tour (European Tour video) Paddy Harrington episode. 90 minutes of brilliance. The guy is fascinating, so so interesting to hear his views on golf and his golf game.

Winning away is tough as we all know but I think he'll be a brilliant captain personally.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 05:00 AM

Great to see him as captain but a really tough job ahead. Only one Ryder Cup has been won by the away team in the last 14 years...and that was Medinah with a miracle comeback/collapse. US team going to be strong.


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 05:26 AM

View PostDave230, on 10 January 2019 - 05:00 AM, said:

Great to see him as captain but a really tough job ahead. Only one Ryder Cup has been won by the away team in the last 14 years...and that was Medinah with a miracle comeback/collapse. US team going to be strong.

If you go back to 85 (when the Ryder cup started to become what it is today)
USA home wins 4
USA away wins 1

Europe home wins 7
Europe away wins 4

I reckon Europe has a much better chance of winning away than what the USA does
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Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:58 AM

"US team is gonna be strong" and here's an early look at the fairways for each hole at Whilstling Straits....  :-)

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 07:24 AM

View PostTheInfidel, on 10 January 2019 - 06:58 AM, said:

"US team is gonna be strong" and here's an early look at the fairways for each hole at Whilstling Straits....  :-)

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And they will still be cutting down that "rough" on the LHS
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Posted 10 January 2019 - 09:22 AM

View PostSuperbrit, on 10 January 2019 - 07:24 AM, said:

View PostTheInfidel, on 10 January 2019 - 06:58 AM, said:

"US team is gonna be strong" and here's an early look at the fairways for each hole at Whilstling Straits....  :-)

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And they will still be cutting down that "rough" on the LHS

Yes, they're going to turn Whistling Straights into a links style course... Something the Euro team is extremely uncomfortable with.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:25 PM

View PostTheInfidel, on 10 January 2019 - 06:58 AM, said:

"US team is gonna be strong" and here's an early look at the fairways for each hole at Whilstling Straits....  :-)

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Is that Phil in the trees on the left?


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:21 PM

View PostKennyP, on 10 January 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

View PostTheInfidel, on 10 January 2019 - 06:58 AM, said:

"US team is gonna be strong" and here's an early look at the fairways for each hole at Whilstling Straits....  :-)

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Is that Phil in the trees on the left?

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 04:24 PM

For those of you that will bash any US captain picked with a losing Ryder Cup record, note that Padraig was 9-13-3.
swing is irrelevant, score is everything

just say NO.... to practice swings

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 06:42 PM

View PostDarth Putter, on 10 January 2019 - 04:24 PM, said:

For those of you that will bash any US captain picked with a losing Ryder Cup record, note that Padraig was 9-13-3.

Do people do that? It's going to be tough for a generation to not pick someone with a losing record, so went the events.
Paddy did stink it up in back to back cups, but otherwise played well and more importantly the team record was 4-2 :)

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:53 PM

View PostTheInfidel, on 10 January 2019 - 06:58 AM, said:

"US team is gonna be strong" and here's an early look at the fairways for each hole at Whilstling Straits....  :-)

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 01:47 AM

View PostDarth Putter, on 10 January 2019 - 04:24 PM, said:

For those of you that will bash any US captain picked with a losing Ryder Cup record, note that Padraig was 9-13-3.

4-2-0 for the teams he's played on. I guess his points could be further analysed to see how "important" they were but if you play 25 matches over 6 Ryder Cups you are a key team member. The team record is often overlooked in these debates.

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