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Difference between Titleist and Mizuno irons


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#31 gambit

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 08:14 PM

Mizuno's, typically, are softer but their pw in the past has looked terrible. Not an issue if you use a typical wedge for that. Wasn't a fan of their boron plated stuff. Titleist has the name. Clubs look good, but feel is a tad clickier. Performance from both are great. All about preference.

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Posted 10 January 2019 - 09:40 PM

View Postdpark, on 10 January 2019 - 07:59 PM, said:

View Postuwhockey14, on 10 January 2019 - 09:34 AM, said:

View PostZTB481, on 05 January 2019 - 07:29 AM, said:

I love Mizuno blades, I have played MP14s, 29s, 30s, 32s, 33s, 37s, 60s, 67s, 68s and 69s. I currently have a set of Titleist 681s with Project X 6.0 shafts that are the sweetest feeling irons I have ever played. I thought I read somewhere where Titleist puts a hickory dowel in the hosel of the iron to improve feel .

They did with the 681's and the 681 T's because that's what Tiger liked and it did make them feel awesome but I have a couple sets of 681's without the Dowel in them and they feel awesome as well....

maybe someone on here knows the answer to this but the Titleist forged Irons in the time of the 681's, like the 690's, 680's and 670's all had a much better feet to them than their Irons from 2005 on, not sure if the forging house changed or what.... IMO the pre-2005 era of Titleist Forgings was the golden age!

I believe the 681s were forged by Hoffman (which is now closed down), but not sure about the rest of them. And I agree with you that the 68x irons did feel great (I played the 681s and 680s) and that "something" went amiss when they started the 7xx line of irons. But they got it right with the 716s. Closest iron to the 681 IMHO. Haven't hit the 718s so I can't comment there.

I believe Larry Bobka debunked the Hoffman forging of the 681 line, Hoffman did the original Titleist Forged wedges that had ELK, Curtis Strange, DLIII and Duval models tho. I believe the 681 line were forged in Japan, or maybe Tiger's Titleist Irons were forged in Japan, at least that's what I remember him talking about on the gear dive podcast..... I'd be interested to know what changed with Titleist Irons after the 600 series because they surely are not the same quality.....

Edited by uwhockey14, 10 January 2019 - 09:41 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 12:32 AM

I love Mizuno. Bought a set of the MP 18ís and more recent, the JPX919ís, so my next statement may surprise, but I wonder if our perception that ďMizuno feels softer,Ē isnít driven by their own marketing? Just a thought. Could be way off base.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 01:21 AM

Love Mizunos, they're butter soft. But if you hit off mats ever, that softness comes at a price. When I started to notice some shot flight changes I had lofts and lies checked on my Mizzy's and some of them moved close to 2 degrees. Decided to try AP2s, which are not quite as soft, but definitely move a lot less at the end of the year. Been with AP2s ever since.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 05:46 AM

I much prefer my 919 forged over my 718 ap2.  Better feel and performance.  Ap2s always look great but do not perform for me.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:04 AM

I just changed from Mizuno MP60s (worn out) to 718cbs, which are very similar designs even though years apart:

Titleist - as mentioned, more "clicky" but still feels good. Better turf interaction. More modern/compact shape.

Mizuno - butter soft, funny looking PW

Performance is identical, as you'd expect from this type of club with the same lofts.

I like the look of the titleists (edit: from address position) more but think mizunos have more shelf appeal, something cool about being forged in Japan!

Edited by Rk5, 11 January 2019 - 06:06 AM.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:50 AM

Mizuno feels like roast beef and gravy.

Titleist feels like roast pork and gravy.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:31 AM

View Postsmvolkma, on 11 January 2019 - 05:46 AM, said:

I much prefer my 919 forged over my 718 ap2.  Better feel and performance.  Ap2s always look great but do not perform for me.

Forgiveness difference ?

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:10 AM

View Postsheldonjhacker, on 11 January 2019 - 07:31 AM, said:

View Postsmvolkma, on 11 January 2019 - 05:46 AM, said:

I much prefer my 919 forged over my 718 ap2.  Better feel and performance.  Ap2s always look great but do not perform for me.

Forgiveness difference ?

The Mizuno will be slightly more forgiving. I found the 714 and 716 to be slightly more "forgiving" than the 718 which has gone a bit more aggressive with the introduction of AP3 I believe.
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:44 AM

Have you ever been told by several people how great a certain movie or restaurant is, so you go in with very high expectations only to wonder what all the fuss was about. To me, thatís Mizuno irons. Theyíre very good irons. I was even fitted for and bought a set. I can see why people are attracted to them. I just donít get the over the top praise. Half the guys describing the feel of a Mizuno probably need a cigarette and a nap afterwards. I think Titleist and Mizuno have very complete and comparable offerings. Pick the one that performs.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:24 PM

View PostCanoe Paddler, on 11 January 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Have you ever been told by several people how great a certain movie or restaurant is, so you go in with very high expectations only to wonder what all the fuss was about. To me, that's Mizuno irons. They're very good irons. I was even fitted for and bought a set. I can see why people are attracted to them. I just don't get the over the top praise. Half the guys describing the feel of a Mizuno probably need a cigarette and a nap afterwards. I think Titleist and Mizuno have very complete and comparable offerings. Pick the one that performs.

LMAO!!! Post of the year, but its early..... I agree, I like mizuno's but Mizuno Super Fans remind me a lot of many Toronto Maple Leafs fans, very obnoxious but with a massive underlying inferiority complex!
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:29 PM

View Posttexcrom, on 05 January 2019 - 07:14 AM, said:

Titleist does have a firmer feel. Performance wise, I have found the AP2 series to be a more consistent product, as it is relatively unchanged over the last ten years.

But nothing compares to the feel of a Mizuno blade.

Except Miura, Epon, Edel?

Mizzy definitely softer than Titleist
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 03:44 PM

Ping feels better than both!  Mike Drop... :rap:
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Posted 11 January 2019 - 04:42 PM

View Posthypergolf, on 05 January 2019 - 04:04 AM, said:

Please describe your difference in feel between these two irons in general.
Thanks.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 06:26 PM

View PostCanoe Paddler, on 11 January 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Have you ever been told by several people how great a certain movie or restaurant is, so you go in with very high expectations only to wonder what all the fuss was about. To me, that's Mizuno irons. They're very good irons. I was even fitted for and bought a set. I can see why people are attracted to them. I just don't get the over the top praise. Half the guys describing the feel of a Mizuno probably need a cigarette and a nap afterwards. I think Titleist and Mizuno have very complete and comparable offerings. Pick the one that performs.

I did not get what all the fuss was about when I was fitted and tried the 900F and MP18 SC. Then I bought an older set of MP32s... Now I get it.

Brb going for a cigarette and a nap

Edited by balls_deep, 11 January 2019 - 06:26 PM.

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Posted 11 January 2019 - 07:22 PM

View Postballs_deep, on 11 January 2019 - 06:26 PM, said:

View PostCanoe Paddler, on 11 January 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Have you ever been told by several people how great a certain movie or restaurant is, so you go in with very high expectations only to wonder what all the fuss was about. To me, that's Mizuno irons. They're very good irons. I was even fitted for and bought a set. I can see why people are attracted to them. I just don't get the over the top praise. Half the guys describing the feel of a Mizuno probably need a cigarette and a nap afterwards. I think Titleist and Mizuno have very complete and comparable offerings. Pick the one that performs.

I did not get what all the fuss was about when I was fitted and tried the 900F and MP18 SC. Then I bought an older set of MP32s... Now I get it.

Brb going for a cigarette and a nap

Haha! Maybe thatís my problem. I was fitted with mixed MP-18 bag. They were fine but I was expecting a little more. I went back to my AP2ís and donít have any regrets. Havenít tried older Mizunos.

Edited by Canoe Paddler, 11 January 2019 - 07:25 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2019 - 09:03 PM

More meat being ball better the feel usually...681 and 718 have it whereas some earlier ones dont....could be the reason

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:34 AM

View Postuwhockey14, on 11 January 2019 - 03:24 PM, said:

View PostCanoe Paddler, on 11 January 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

Have you ever been told by several people how great a certain movie or restaurant is, so you go in with very high expectations only to wonder what all the fuss was about. To me, that's Mizuno irons. They're very good irons. I was even fitted for and bought a set. I can see why people are attracted to them. I just don't get the over the top praise. Half the guys describing the feel of a Mizuno probably need a cigarette and a nap afterwards. I think Titleist and Mizuno have very complete and comparable offerings. Pick the one that performs.

LMAO!!! Post of the year, but its early..... I agree, I like mizuno's but Mizuno Super Fans remind me a lot of many Toronto Maple Leafs fans, very obnoxious but with a massive underlying inferiority complex!

Say what???
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 10:38 AM

Mizuno are less expensive and imo better irons.  What we call a WIN WIN lol
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Posted 12 January 2019 - 09:29 PM

AlwAys felt ďTitleistĒ is an arrogant name. Too ashamed of their real name? Ok.
But they make great clubs. Especially these days. Biggest poser brand for amateurs, of course.
Dedicated users.

Mizuno is terrific. Little cold as a brand. Hate that blue color they insist on hoisting in his nice face.
Great irons and wedges, JP is ďmehĒ on their woods, itís so up and down. Some crappy std wood and hybrid shafts over the many years. Better now. A Handful of decent drivers in 20 years! Sad. Just Crap putters. Lot of wanker fans. Real poser brand.

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MacGregor PCB Tours...the leopard of irons.

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Posted 12 January 2019 - 09:42 PM

To me the best forgings from both were the era of 680 mb and mp33. The 735s were alright, after that I dont care for the newer Titleist hosel and sole design and mizuno 9-P always look funky.

I've had equally poor results from both mfgs. offerings in multi material cavity and CB.

And I've tried many....

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Posted 13 January 2019 - 01:07 AM

This is all I need to see and Iím good

https://youtu.be/qVv4Qh0jqZE

In English
https://youtu.be/O9rVM4-QwiY

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