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#1 TigerMom

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 09:04 AM

Is it FL, CA, AZ, TX?

How about for US Kids Regional Tournaments - which are the ones that attract the best competition?


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Posted 01 January 2019 - 09:20 AM

US Kids Regional events are just expensive vacations with a golf tournament attached.  They are meant to be fun for the whole family so treat them as such.

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 10:37 AM

The biggest junior tournaments are in Texas for sure. Played in both Texas and Florida and the Texas tournaments simply bring out more kids.

The Dallas area is probably as big as most Flordia state tournaments. When my daughter was under 10 you had to pretty much beat par on even low level tournaments to actually win.  

On the Us kids tour it was even worse as routinely kids in the top 20 would play angainst kids who just started playing.  I recall some events where you needed to be under 30 for even a chance to place.


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Posted 01 January 2019 - 02:19 PM

View PostTigerMom, on 01 January 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Is it FL, CA, AZ, TX?

How about for US Kids Regional Tournaments - which are the ones that attract the best competition?

Tristate better than AZ.  Jersey tours have 150+ kids with 15+ in a lot of age groups.  Also MET is one of the best PGA sections in the country.

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Posted 01 January 2019 - 05:13 PM

Southern California, Florida then Texas.

Edited by heavy_hitter, 01 January 2019 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 01 January 2019 - 09:43 PM

I guess it has a bunch to do with the age groups too.  Atlanta is extremely competitive with the 2021 and 2022 kids.  But, 2023 and 2020 are not too tough.  (2022 class won the pga Jr league.). Top 10 in each class are tracking for D1 power 5.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 07:21 AM

View Postleezer99, on 01 January 2019 - 09:20 AM, said:

US Kids Regional events are just expensive vacations with a golf tournament attached.  They are meant to be fun for the whole family so treat them as such.

So in other words they're optional...kind of like skiing?

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:04 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 01 January 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 01 January 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Is it FL, CA, AZ, TX?

How about for US Kids Regional Tournaments - which are the ones that attract the best competition?

Tristate better than AZ.  Jersey tours have 150+ kids with 15+ in a lot of age groups.  Also MET is one of the best PGA sections in the country.

This is interesting

Besides sheer numbers, would you say that NJ and MET section talent level are same as the others mentioned?

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:22 AM

View PostTigerMom, on 02 January 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 01 January 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 01 January 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Is it FL, CA, AZ, TX?

How about for US Kids Regional Tournaments - which are the ones that attract the best competition?

Tristate better than AZ.  Jersey tours have 150+ kids with 15+ in a lot of age groups.  Also MET is one of the best PGA sections in the country.

This is interesting

Besides sheer numbers, would you say that NJ and MET section talent level are same as the others mentioned?
I disagree.. the NJ/MET section might have numbers at the local level but the level of competition is not close to FL/TX/CA.

The confluence of good coaching, facilities, and competitive local tournaments are the factor IMO.

We play in NJ/Tri State so have a pretty good idea on the level of competition at the US Kids level..

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 09:56 PM

So from the outside looking in - for those of us who donít live in FL, TX, or CA that is-  how do you keep up? My son is still young (8), but itís a struggle to find good competition in our area and even within the state.  And we live in coastal SC, so we do have a year round golf season.  For us,  Tmnt options are slim and fields typically very very small at local tmnts.  Weíve come to enjoy the USKG regionals and worlds- good completion, sizeable fields, and we value the family vacation aspect of it.  I realize that itís costly for what we get, but there just isnít any other viable Tmnt option(that Iíve found) locally or state level in his age groups that would be considered ďcompetitiveĒ until he hits the later ages of 12+.  I am astonished , and a bit envious , of the great and varied opportunities that are available in the BIG 3 states for junior golf.

Edited by hangontight, 02 January 2019 - 09:57 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM

View Posthangontight, on 02 January 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

So from the outside looking in - for those of us who don't live in FL, TX, or CA that is-  how do you keep up? My son is still young (8), but it's a struggle to find good competition in our area and even within the state.  And we live in coastal SC, so we do have a year round golf season.  For us,  Tmnt options are slim and fields typically very very small at local tmnts.  We've come to enjoy the USKG regionals and worlds- good completion, sizeable fields, and we value the family vacation aspect of it.  I realize that it's costly for what we get, but there just isn't any other viable Tmnt option(that I've found) locally or state level in his age groups that would be considered "competitive" until he hits the later ages of 12+.  I am astonished , and a bit envious , of the great and varied opportunities that are available in the BIG 3 states for junior golf.

It can be xxxxxx' stressful bro, don't be envious at all.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:30 PM

View Postleezer99, on 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

View Posthangontight, on 02 January 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

So from the outside looking in - for those of us who don't live in FL, TX, or CA that is-  how do you keep up? My son is still young (8), but it's a struggle to find good competition in our area and even within the state.  And we live in coastal SC, so we do have a year round golf season.  For us,  Tmnt options are slim and fields typically very very small at local tmnts.  We've come to enjoy the USKG regionals and worlds- good completion, sizeable fields, and we value the family vacation aspect of it.  I realize that it's costly for what we get, but there just isn't any other viable Tmnt option(that I've found) locally or state level in his age groups that would be considered "competitive" until he hits the later ages of 12+.  I am astonished , and a bit envious , of the great and varied opportunities that are available in the BIG 3 states for junior golf.

It can be xxxxxx' stressful bro, don't be envious at all.

Agree you see the kid winning who has a swing coach, short game coach , personal trainer and PGX clubs along with their own PR agent and wonder how the heck your going to keep up and why am I not doing it with my kids. (By the way none of this matters but it still bothers everyone)

Edited by tiger1873, 02 January 2019 - 10:35 PM.


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Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:17 PM

View Posttiger1873, on 02 January 2019 - 10:30 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 02 January 2019 - 10:07 PM, said:

View Posthangontight, on 02 January 2019 - 09:56 PM, said:

So from the outside looking in - for those of us who don't live in FL, TX, or CA that is-  how do you keep up? My son is still young (8), but it's a struggle to find good competition in our area and even within the state.  And we live in coastal SC, so we do have a year round golf season.  For us,  Tmnt options are slim and fields typically very very small at local tmnts.  We've come to enjoy the USKG regionals and worlds- good completion, sizeable fields, and we value the family vacation aspect of it.  I realize that it's costly for what we get, but there just isn't any other viable Tmnt option(that I've found) locally or state level in his age groups that would be considered "competitive" until he hits the later ages of 12+.  I am astonished , and a bit envious , of the great and varied opportunities that are available in the BIG 3 states for junior golf.

It can be xxxxxx' stressful bro, don't be envious at all.

Agree you see the kid winning who has a swing coach, short game coach , personal trainer and PGX clubs along with their own PR agent and wonder how the heck your going to keep up and why am I not doing it with my kids. (By the way none of this matters but it still bothers everyone)

Yep, we have a couple in our area that play Worlds, 6-7 Regionals, multiple USKG local tours (in our area anyway there are 4 local tours you can play within 2-2.5 hours), IMG Qualifiers, IMG Worlds, FCG Qualifiers, FCG National, FCG Worlds, JGANC tour, swing coach, short game coach, and renting a cart for every tournament.  Let's not even include any course memberships or practice rounds they may play.  All said and done, a couple of them are spending no less than $25K/year and this is at age 7.

Having said all of that, they are winning (or placing well) so I guess there is a return. As others of said though, it probably doesn't matter anyway. I try not to let it bother me, but I'm human.  If I had unlimited funds, I'd probably do the same thing.  For now, we just have to take our own golf journey which starts with very limited tournaments next year (two total) and lots of simply playing as many different courses as possible for $5 or less per round (Youth on Course).

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 06:55 AM

View Postkcap, on 02 January 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 02 January 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 01 January 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 01 January 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Is it FL, CA, AZ, TX?

How about for US Kids Regional Tournaments - which are the ones that attract the best competition?

Tristate better than AZ.  Jersey tours have 150+ kids with 15+ in a lot of age groups.  Also MET is one of the best PGA sections in the country.

This is interesting

Besides sheer numbers, would you say that NJ and MET section talent level are same as the others mentioned?
I disagree.. the NJ/MET section might have numbers at the local level but the level of competition is not close to FL/TX/CA.

The confluence of good coaching, facilities, and competitive local tournaments are the factor IMO.

We play in NJ/Tri State so have a pretty good idea on the level of competition at the US Kids level..

You canít compare coaching and facilities with tristate.  Tristate has the best in those two categories if you seek it.  Agree that level of competition will be less but already stated that itís below CA, FL and TX.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM

View Postyellowlover519, on 03 January 2019 - 06:55 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 02 January 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 02 January 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 01 January 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 01 January 2019 - 09:04 AM, said:

Is it FL, CA, AZ, TX?

How about for US Kids Regional Tournaments - which are the ones that attract the best competition?

Tristate better than AZ.  Jersey tours have 150+ kids with 15+ in a lot of age groups.  Also MET is one of the best PGA sections in the country.

This is interesting

Besides sheer numbers, would you say that NJ and MET section talent level are same as the others mentioned?
I disagree.. the NJ/MET section might have numbers at the local level but the level of competition is not close to FL/TX/CA.

The confluence of good coaching, facilities, and competitive local tournaments are the factor IMO.

We play in NJ/Tri State so have a pretty good idea on the level of competition at the US Kids level..

You can't compare coaching and facilities with tristate.  Tristate has the best in those two categories if you seek it.  Agree that level of competition will be less but already stated that it's below CA, FL and TX.
I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:52 AM

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?

First of all have you ever heard of anyone say, "I'm going to retire in the Tri State area to play golf"?  I think that tells you more than anything.  Playable days in the NE are what 250?  Playable days in California are probably around 360.

Golf Digest Top Instructors:

Tri State Area: 58 Top Instructors / 5 top 50
FL / TX / CA: 143 Top Instructors / 26 of the top 50

Tri State Top 50: (apparently you need to be named Mike)
Mike Adams (2), Hamilton Farm G.C., Gladstone
Mike Bennett (36), Stack & Tilt Academy, Mount Holly
Michael Breed (13), Michael Breed Golf Academy at Trump G. Links at Ferry Point, New York City
Michael Hebron (23), Smithtown Landing G. Cse.
Michael Jacobs (32), X Golf School, Manorville

FL / TX / CA Top 50:

Chuck Cook (3), Chuck Cook Golf Academy, Austin
Cameron McCormick (5), Altus Performance at Trinity Forest G.C., Dallas
Hank Haney (8), Hank Haney Golf, Lewisville
Jim Hardy (9), Plane Truth Golf, Houston
Chris Como (17), Gleneagles C.C., Plano
Randy Smith (31), Royal Oaks C.C., Dallas
Dave Pelz (33), Dave Pelz Scoring Game Schools, Austin
Jim McLean (4), Jim McLean Golf School at The Biltmore, Coral Gables
Mike Bender (6), Mike Bender Golf Academy at Magnolia Plantation G.C., Lake Mary
David Leadbetter (7), David Leadbetter Golf Academy At Championsgate, Orlando
Sean Foley (10), Foley Performance Academy at Eaglesdream, Lake Mary
Martin Hall (11), Ibis G. & C.C., West Palm Beach
Claude Harmon III (12), Butch Harmon Floridian, Palm City
Todd Anderson (T-14), PGA Tour's Performance Center at TPC Sawgrass, Ponte Vedra Beach
Bob Toski (18), Toski-Battersby Golf Learning Center, Coconut Creek
Gary Gilchrist (21), Gary Gilchrist Golf Academy At Mission Inn Resort & C., Howey-In-The-Hills
Andy Plummer (35), Turnberry Isle Miami, Aventura
Dr. Jim Suttie (35), The Golf Academy at Twineagles, Naples
Jimmy Ballard (38), Ballard Swing, Connection at Ocean Reef C., Key Largo
Rick Smith (45), Rick Smith Academy at Trump National Doral
Cheryl Anderson (T-46), Mike Bender Golf Academy, Lake Mary
Craig Shankland (T-46), LPGA International, Daytona Beach
Mac O'Grady (20), Mac O'Grady Golf School, Palm Springs
Bill Harmon (22), Bill Harmon Performance Center, Toscana C.C., Indian Wells
Dave Stockton (28), Stockton Golf, Redlands
Dave Phillips (37), TPI, Oceanside

Edited by leezer99, 03 January 2019 - 07:53 AM.


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:08 AM

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 03 January 2019 - 06:55 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 02 January 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

I disagree.. the NJ/MET section might have numbers at the local level but the level of competition is not close to FL/TX/CA.

The confluence of good coaching, facilities, and competitive local tournaments are the factor IMO.

We play in NJ/Tri State so have a pretty good idea on the level of competition at the US Kids level..

You can't compare coaching and facilities with tristate.  Tristate has the best in those two categories if you seek it.  Agree that level of competition will be less but already stated that it's below CA, FL and TX.
I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?

The Northeast probably has the highest concentration of the best courses in the world, and instruction can be as good as anywhere, if you are willing to pay up.  I would guess the number of top instructors per golfer is probably very similar to other regions in the US.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:37 AM

View PostCTgolf, on 03 January 2019 - 08:08 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

View Postyellowlover519, on 03 January 2019 - 06:55 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 02 January 2019 - 10:22 AM, said:

I disagree.. the NJ/MET section might have numbers at the local level but the level of competition is not close to FL/TX/CA.

The confluence of good coaching, facilities, and competitive local tournaments are the factor IMO.

We play in NJ/Tri State so have a pretty good idea on the level of competition at the US Kids level..

You can't compare coaching and facilities with tristate.  Tristate has the best in those two categories if you seek it.  Agree that level of competition will be less but already stated that it's below CA, FL and TX.
I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?

The Northeast probably has the highest concentration of the best courses in the world, and instruction can be as good as anywhere, if you are willing to pay up.  I would guess the number of top instructors per golfer is probably very similar to other regions in the US.
I dont know the number of top instructors per golfer.. but according to the 2017-18 Golf Digest rankings,  NJ has 17 Pros ranked as the Best Teachers with 2 in the top 50.  That number is quite similar to Ohio, Michigan, Maryland, PA, Virginia, Georgia etc.

While Florida, California, and Texas have about 4050 teachers ranked.. so 3x.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 08:59 AM

Tex Cali and FL are big states and while (golf) is wide spread throughout them all you may find high level (junior golf) to be extremely concentrated to a given region within that state.
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Posted 03 January 2019 - 10:53 AM

View Postleezer99, on 03 January 2019 - 07:52 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?

First of all have you ever heard of anyone say, "I'm going to retire in the Tri State area to play golf"?  I think that tells you more than anything.  Playable days in the NE are what 250?  Playable days in California are probably around 360.

Golf Digest Top Instructors:

Tri State Area: 58 Top Instructors / 5 top 50
FL / TX / CA: 143 Top Instructors / 26 of the top 50

Tri State Top 50: (apparently you need to be named Mike)
Mike Adams (2), Hamilton Farm G.C., Gladstone
Mike Bennett (36), Stack & Tilt Academy, Mount Holly
Michael Breed (13), Michael Breed Golf Academy at Trump G. Links at Ferry Point, New York City
Michael Hebron (23), Smithtown Landing G. Cse.
Michael Jacobs (32), X Golf School, Manorville

FL / TX / CA Top 50:

Chuck Cook (3), Chuck Cook Golf Academy, Austin
Cameron McCormick (5), Altus Performance at Trinity Forest G.C., Dallas
Hank Haney (8), Hank Haney Golf, Lewisville
Jim Hardy (9), Plane Truth Golf, Houston
Chris Como (17), Gleneagles C.C., Plano
Randy Smith (31), Royal Oaks C.C., Dallas
Dave Pelz (33), Dave Pelz Scoring Game Schools, Austin
Jim McLean (4), Jim McLean Golf School at The Biltmore, Coral Gables
Mike Bender (6), Mike Bender Golf Academy at Magnolia Plantation G.C., Lake Mary
David Leadbetter (7), David Leadbetter Golf Academy At Championsgate, Orlando
Sean Foley (10), Foley Performance Academy at Eaglesdream, Lake Mary
Martin Hall (11), Ibis G. & C.C., West Palm Beach
Claude Harmon III (12), Butch Harmon Floridian, Palm City
Todd Anderson (T-14), PGA Tour's Performance Center at TPC Sawgrass, Ponte Vedra Beach
Bob Toski (18), Toski-Battersby Golf Learning Center, Coconut Creek
Gary Gilchrist (21), Gary Gilchrist Golf Academy At Mission Inn Resort & C., Howey-In-The-Hills
Andy Plummer (35), Turnberry Isle Miami, Aventura
Dr. Jim Suttie (35), The Golf Academy at Twineagles, Naples
Jimmy Ballard (38), Ballard Swing, Connection at Ocean Reef C., Key Largo
Rick Smith (45), Rick Smith Academy at Trump National Doral
Cheryl Anderson (T-46), Mike Bender Golf Academy, Lake Mary
Craig Shankland (T-46), LPGA International, Daytona Beach
Mac O'Grady (20), Mac O'Grady Golf School, Palm Springs
Bill Harmon (22), Bill Harmon Performance Center, Toscana C.C., Indian Wells
Dave Stockton (28), Stockton Golf, Redlands
Dave Phillips (37), TPI, Oceanside
Leezer -- I missed this post, but honestly I don't get it, are you agreeing with the concept that TriState has plenty of coaching and facilities?

There is a reason that most top Junior and professional golfers come from FL, TX, and CA... and I dont think it is the weather, cause you get some really good golfers from UK etc.


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 11:01 AM

Keep in mind that Texas, California and Florida are the 3 most populated states in the US, and have excellent year round weather.  Those states are fertile grounds for a lot of sports (see football and baseball recruiting).  I will say that the tri state area has some great golf courses.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 11:09 AM

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 03 January 2019 - 07:52 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?

First of all have you ever heard of anyone say, "I'm going to retire in the Tri State area to play golf"?  I think that tells you more than anything.  Playable days in the NE are what 250?  Playable days in California are probably around 360.

Golf Digest Top Instructors:

Tri State Area: 58 Top Instructors / 5 top 50
FL / TX / CA: 143 Top Instructors / 26 of the top 50

Tri State Top 50: (apparently you need to be named Mike)
Mike Adams (2), Hamilton Farm G.C., Gladstone
Mike Bennett (36), Stack & Tilt Academy, Mount Holly
Michael Breed (13), Michael Breed Golf Academy at Trump G. Links at Ferry Point, New York City
Michael Hebron (23), Smithtown Landing G. Cse.
Michael Jacobs (32), X Golf School, Manorville

FL / TX / CA Top 50:

Chuck Cook (3), Chuck Cook Golf Academy, Austin
Cameron McCormick (5), Altus Performance at Trinity Forest G.C., Dallas
Hank Haney (8), Hank Haney Golf, Lewisville
Jim Hardy (9), Plane Truth Golf, Houston
Chris Como (17), Gleneagles C.C., Plano
Randy Smith (31), Royal Oaks C.C., Dallas
Dave Pelz (33), Dave Pelz Scoring Game Schools, Austin
Jim McLean (4), Jim McLean Golf School at The Biltmore, Coral Gables
Mike Bender (6), Mike Bender Golf Academy at Magnolia Plantation G.C., Lake Mary
David Leadbetter (7), David Leadbetter Golf Academy At Championsgate, Orlando
Sean Foley (10), Foley Performance Academy at Eaglesdream, Lake Mary
Martin Hall (11), Ibis G. & C.C., West Palm Beach
Claude Harmon III (12), Butch Harmon Floridian, Palm City
Todd Anderson (T-14), PGA Tour's Performance Center at TPC Sawgrass, Ponte Vedra Beach
Bob Toski (18), Toski-Battersby Golf Learning Center, Coconut Creek
Gary Gilchrist (21), Gary Gilchrist Golf Academy At Mission Inn Resort & C., Howey-In-The-Hills
Andy Plummer (35), Turnberry Isle Miami, Aventura
Dr. Jim Suttie (35), The Golf Academy at Twineagles, Naples
Jimmy Ballard (38), Ballard Swing, Connection at Ocean Reef C., Key Largo
Rick Smith (45), Rick Smith Academy at Trump National Doral
Cheryl Anderson (T-46), Mike Bender Golf Academy, Lake Mary
Craig Shankland (T-46), LPGA International, Daytona Beach
Mac O'Grady (20), Mac O'Grady Golf School, Palm Springs
Bill Harmon (22), Bill Harmon Performance Center, Toscana C.C., Indian Wells
Dave Stockton (28), Stockton Golf, Redlands
Dave Phillips (37), TPI, Oceanside
Leezer -- I missed this post, but honestly I don't get it, are you agreeing with the concept that TriState has plenty of coaching and facilities?

There is a reason that most top Junior and professional golfers come from FL, TX, and CA... and I dont think it is the weather, cause you get some really good golfers from UK etc.

I think the weather in the UK is probably better than the Northeast US for golf, as you can arguably play year round (typical winter high temps in the mid 40s vs mid 30s)

I think the major impediments to golf in the Northeast is high price, low availability (not as many courses per capita, longer travel times to get there in urban areas) and short season (8 months max).

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 11:26 AM

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 03 January 2019 - 07:52 AM, said:

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 07:11 AM, said:

I am really curious to know why you think Tristate has the best...in terms of coaching and facilities.   I am not being confrontational but am genuinely looking for what I would consider "world class coaching ". Who and what you consider the "Best" in the Tri State?

First of all have you ever heard of anyone say, "I'm going to retire in the Tri State area to play golf"?  I think that tells you more than anything.  Playable days in the NE are what 250?  Playable days in California are probably around 360.

Golf Digest Top Instructors:

Tri State Area: 58 Top Instructors / 5 top 50
FL / TX / CA: 143 Top Instructors / 26 of the top 50

Tri State Top 50: (apparently you need to be named Mike)
Mike Adams (2), Hamilton Farm G.C., Gladstone
Mike Bennett (36), Stack & Tilt Academy, Mount Holly
Michael Breed (13), Michael Breed Golf Academy at Trump G. Links at Ferry Point, New York City
Michael Hebron (23), Smithtown Landing G. Cse.
Michael Jacobs (32), X Golf School, Manorville

FL / TX / CA Top 50:

Chuck Cook (3), Chuck Cook Golf Academy, Austin
Cameron McCormick (5), Altus Performance at Trinity Forest G.C., Dallas
Hank Haney (8), Hank Haney Golf, Lewisville
Jim Hardy (9), Plane Truth Golf, Houston
Chris Como (17), Gleneagles C.C., Plano
Randy Smith (31), Royal Oaks C.C., Dallas
Dave Pelz (33), Dave Pelz Scoring Game Schools, Austin
Jim McLean (4), Jim McLean Golf School at The Biltmore, Coral Gables
Mike Bender (6), Mike Bender Golf Academy at Magnolia Plantation G.C., Lake Mary
David Leadbetter (7), David Leadbetter Golf Academy At Championsgate, Orlando
Sean Foley (10), Foley Performance Academy at Eaglesdream, Lake Mary
Martin Hall (11), Ibis G. & C.C., West Palm Beach
Claude Harmon III (12), Butch Harmon Floridian, Palm City
Todd Anderson (T-14), PGA Tour's Performance Center at TPC Sawgrass, Ponte Vedra Beach
Bob Toski (18), Toski-Battersby Golf Learning Center, Coconut Creek
Gary Gilchrist (21), Gary Gilchrist Golf Academy At Mission Inn Resort & C., Howey-In-The-Hills
Andy Plummer (35), Turnberry Isle Miami, Aventura
Dr. Jim Suttie (35), The Golf Academy at Twineagles, Naples
Jimmy Ballard (38), Ballard Swing, Connection at Ocean Reef C., Key Largo
Rick Smith (45), Rick Smith Academy at Trump National Doral
Cheryl Anderson (T-46), Mike Bender Golf Academy, Lake Mary
Craig Shankland (T-46), LPGA International, Daytona Beach
Mac O'Grady (20), Mac O'Grady Golf School, Palm Springs
Bill Harmon (22), Bill Harmon Performance Center, Toscana C.C., Indian Wells
Dave Stockton (28), Stockton Golf, Redlands
Dave Phillips (37), TPI, Oceanside
Leezer -- I missed this post, but honestly I don't get it, are you agreeing with the concept that TriState has plenty of coaching and facilities?

There is a reason that most top Junior and professional golfers come from FL, TX, and CA... and I dont think it is the weather, cause you get some really good golfers from UK etc.

He is agreeing with you.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 11:35 AM

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 10:53 AM, said:


Leezer -- I missed this post, but honestly I don't get it, are you agreeing with the concept that TriState has plenty of coaching and facilities?

There is a reason that most top Junior and professional golfers come from FL, TX, and CA... and I dont think it is the weather, cause you get some really good golfers from UK etc.

The TriState area has plenty of coaches and places to play but the ability to play golf has more to do with junior golf development than the quality of facilities or level of instructors.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:18 PM

Another thread locked.  Can't we just all get along?


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:22 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 03 January 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

Another thread locked.  Can't we just all get along?

If posts weren't consistently challenged by one person from qualified people, no threads would be locked.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:23 PM

View Postheavy_hitter, on 03 January 2019 - 12:22 PM, said:

View PostCTgolf, on 03 January 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

Another thread locked.  Can't we just all get along?

If posts weren't consistently challenged by one person from qualified people, no threads would be locked.

"Many sides"

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:40 PM

View PostCTgolf, on 03 January 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

Another thread locked.  Can't we just all get along?
Ha - Then it would not be that entertaining.

On a separate note.

The little guy gained 3-4 inches over the last few months and is getting a club fitting this weekend.  Wish me luck!

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:57 PM

View Postkcap, on 03 January 2019 - 12:40 PM, said:

View PostCTgolf, on 03 January 2019 - 12:18 PM, said:

Another thread locked.  Can't we just all get along?
Ha - Then it would not be that entertaining.

On a separate note.

The little guy gained 3-4 inches over the last few months and is getting a club fitting this weekend.  Wish me luck!

Who are you going to see?  I'm waiting until February to do another fitting.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 01:35 PM

A local guy in the area who I heard about and then researched a lot.   We even met up last week for a bit, just to see if it even makes sense to go through a fitting.  Fortunately he has a lot of shaft options and is will to cut and make clubs just for a fitting.

It is a full bag fitting over a couple of sessions, thus we are start this week.  I assume we get done over 2-3 weeks and then some more for assembly and building the set.

I am hoping his woods and driver is only both changing the shaft length and flex. He has Rogue with Recoil shaft (senior flex) that yours truly assembled.

The irons are different story.. still plays with US Kids 57 but should probably be in 63s.


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