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#1 DavePelz4

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 07:47 PM

The Golf Channel finally has it right.  Gene Littler and Byron Nelson playing Pine Valley.  So nice.  They're hitting 3 and 4 irons from 180. They couldn't make it on GolfWRX now.  

Expecting a new thread...can a 4 handicap beat Gene Littler.


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Posted 24 December 2018 - 07:58 PM

I loved that show.  Use to watch every match.
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Posted 24 December 2018 - 08:12 PM

Had my 13 and 11 year old sons watching Phil vs. Sergio from 2001 earlier this afternoon before we went to Christmas Eve service.  Great to see GC air some of the great episodes from the past.

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 08:16 PM

4 iron from 180?  Thatís what, a 9 iron for DJ?
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Posted 24 December 2018 - 08:29 PM

View Postanth, on 24 December 2018 - 08:16 PM, said:

4 iron from 180?  That’s what, a 9 iron for DJ?

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 08:56 PM

Love these old ma-no a ma-no golf shows.  Seve was not having his best against the Zinger in the 1995 at the Old Course.
240-250 drive was huge in my father's days.  They'd pass that with a driving iron these days.

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Posted 24 December 2018 - 08:59 PM

View PostDavePelz4, on 24 December 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

The Golf Channel finally has it right.  Gene Littler and Byron Nelson playing Pine Valley.  So nice.  They're hitting 3 and 4 irons from 180. They couldn't make it on GolfWRX now.  

Expecting a new thread...can a 4 handicap beat Gene Littler.

And Hogan used to hit a 4-iron 155.  What;s your point?  Most WRXers are full 'o crapp on their yardages anyway.
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Posted 24 December 2018 - 11:44 PM

I sat and watched the Seve/ĎZinger and Lord Byron/Littler match; pure enjoyment. What was particularly interesting about the Nelson/Littler match was the TV production. You could tell some of the closeups, like the ball landing, were added post production. Obviously they didnít have 20 cameras, drones and the Goodyear blimp out there. Regardless it was sweet watching those guys hit the ball. Cheers.
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 07:34 AM

View Postwkuo3, on 24 December 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

Love these old ma-no a ma-no golf shows.  Seve was not having his best against the Zinger in the 1995 at the Old Course.
240-250 drive was huge in my father's days.  They'd pass that with a driving iron these days.
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 09:25 AM

I love watching these matches.  Phil vs. Sergio.  Palmer vs. Jack.  Jack vs. Player, etc....  For me I didn't get to to watch most of these guys in their prime (not saying that these matches were in their prime) but you know what I mean.  I wished they did something like this today so that future generations could see players like I am today.

Does anyone know if matches like these are available for download/viewing somewhere?  Would be interested in watching more.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 09:52 AM

Great entertainment and I can't understand why Golf Channel doesn't run them nore frequently. I could watch these, Challenge Golf, Big Three golf and shows like them all day long and not be bored. I'm old enough to remember seeing them on TV as a weekly series. Even though I wasn't playing golf at the time it initiated some interest in the game for me.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 03:16 PM

Watching SWWG on Christmas and enjoying the heck out of it.  I wish they'd play them anytime rather than the terrible golf movie reruns.  It brought up the debate in my mind whether the greats of past generations would dominate today's game the way they did in the forties, fifties, and sixties, which I believe some of them would (in particular, Hogan, Snead, Palmer, and Nicklaus among others).  I particularly enjoyed the Byron Nelson vs. Gene Littler at Pine Valley episode where they had a cumulative score of close to +10.  The course looked amazing, though it still didn't have the kind of teeth it has today.  Both players hit several cold, yank-tops during their round which I've always said was more of a regular occurrence in those days.  I've seen most of the HoFer's from when I was growing up (Palmer, Nicklaus, and Trevino namely) hit random shots like this on more than one occasion, something you'd never see from any professional golfer today, unless it was from an abysmal lie of some sort.  These older episodes really illustrate the evolution of the game in full color.  Man, have things changed....
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:12 PM

Try this link for SWWOG  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00GtobroEbs

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:13 PM

i wonder how slow the greens were. they look slower than a muni, lol.  i think the better golfers would have adapted to today's game ok.  certainly a variety of swings in these episodes, for sure!
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:19 PM

Watching now.  Gary Player v Peter Thomson.  Makes me want to go all vintage!

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:39 PM

the Hogan vs Snead match at Houston CC is IMO the greatest Shell's match there ever was (and it ain't even close).

if Golf Channel never has the brains to run it.....



edit: this is unfortunately not the entire episode. I do not believe any exists on YouTube.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:46 PM

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 25 December 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

the Hogan vs Snead match at Houston CC is IMO the greatest Shell's match there ever was (and it ain't even close).

if Golf Channel never has the brains to run it.....



edit: this is unfortunately not the entire episode. I do not believe any exists on YouTube.

I bought that on VHS, when that was still a thing. Wonder if I still have a working VCR somewhere?
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 04:54 PM

View Postdlygrisse, on 25 December 2018 - 04:46 PM, said:

View PostKenny Lee Puckett, on 25 December 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

the Hogan vs Snead match at Houston CC is IMO the greatest Shell's match there ever was (and it ain't even close).

if Golf Channel never has the brains to run it.....



edit: this is unfortunately not the entire episode. I do not believe any exists on YouTube.

I bought that on VHS, when that was still a thing. Wonder if I still have a working VCR somewhere?
I bought the DVD a veeeery long time ago.

edit: appears it still exists for sale    http://www.inthehole...AiABEgLMWPD_BwE

Edited by Kenny Lee Puckett, 25 December 2018 - 05:04 PM.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 05:24 PM

I love these. Gotta say though, Sarazen’s commentary is cringe worthy at times.
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 06:40 PM

BTW, does anyone know where I could get the match between Nicklaus and Miller at Olympic?  I saw it on GC once and just didn't think to record it.  I assumed it would be on YouTube....nope.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 07:06 PM

love hearing the click of the balata ball off the persimmon drivers

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 07:26 PM

Unfortunately, the Golf Channel only rolls out the good stuff (Shell's WWOG) at Christmas.  

Sort of like PBS, rolling out the goodies for the fundraisers, then going back to the SOS.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 10:13 PM

View PostDavePelz4, on 24 December 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

The Golf Channel finally has it right.  Gene Littler and Byron Nelson playing Pine Valley.  So nice.  They're hitting 3 and 4 irons from 180. They couldn't make it on GolfWRX now.  

Expecting a new thread...can a 4 handicap beat Gene Littler.

Well.  Answer the question.  COULD a 4 cap beat Gene Littler?
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Posted 25 December 2018 - 10:42 PM

Bad day for littler I doubt he broke 40 on the front side. He was us open champ in 61, so PV was a monster. Byron is 50 and plays like once or twice a year, remarkable ball striker.  I believe it was the first SWWG.

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Posted 25 December 2018 - 11:10 PM

View Postsunbeltgolfer, on 25 December 2018 - 09:52 AM, said:

Great entertainment and I can't understand why Golf Channel doesn't run them nore frequently. I could watch these, Challenge Golf, Big Three golf and shows like them all day long and not be bored. I'm old enough to remember seeing them on TV as a weekly series. Even though I wasn't playing golf at the time it initiated some interest in the game for me.

The use to be on everyday on the golf channel in the early mid 90's!!!! I had them all recorded. The also use to run another one called All-Star golf. I really enjoyed watching all of the shells matches even though ive seen most of them.


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Posted 25 December 2018 - 11:45 PM

Some of these are really fun to watch. Doesn't get any better than seeing the legends play.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 12:46 AM

Tonight, I was watching an old SWWG of Faldo vs. Norman at St. Andrews with Dave Marr as the host.  Marr was so ill that he was barely able to hold the microphone , but he was still working.  He passed two months after this episode was taped, so he must have been very sick at the time.  I can't blame him for working.  In my cancer journey, golf has been an invaluable diversion from the dreaded thoughts that go along with it...it's the only thing I know that can take my mind off of it.  I'm happy to see that he was able to work right up to the end.  David Marr is still remembered and loved by those that knew him....he was pure class.
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Posted 26 December 2018 - 02:30 AM

I liked the Nelson/Littler match at Pine Valley.  
The greens must have been stimping at about 5-6 and the fairways about 1.    

I saw Jack + Arnie the day before on PH #2.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 06:56 AM

View PostArtMBgolf, on 26 December 2018 - 02:30 AM, said:

I liked the Nelson/Littler match at Pine Valley.  
The greens must have been stimping at about 5-6 and the fairways about 1.

I saw Jack + Arnie the day before on PH #2.

I saw both of those and enjoyed the heck out of them, as well.  Sure was a different game back then.  During the PH2 episode, they showed a quick shot of Kelly Mitchum, who was a hot amateur at the time and is the short game instructor at the resort now.  Pine Valley came across as unplayably tough.

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Posted 26 December 2018 - 07:10 AM

View Postebrasmus21, on 25 December 2018 - 10:13 PM, said:

View PostDavePelz4, on 24 December 2018 - 07:47 PM, said:

The Golf Channel finally has it right.  Gene Littler and Byron Nelson playing Pine Valley.  So nice.  They're hitting 3 and 4 irons from 180. They couldn't make it on GolfWRX now.  

Expecting a new thread...can a 4 handicap beat Gene Littler.

Well.  Answer the question.  COULD a 4 cap beat Gene Littler?
Well NOW, yes....

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