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#1 DrivesFourShow

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 04:35 PM

Hi Team,

I'm organizing a Masters 2020 trip for 6-8 golfers from Australia.

Hoping you can provide any help, insight or info on the itinerary below in terms of best airports to fly in and out of, where should we drive to and from and are we playing the right golf courses.

Here is the loose plan:

Friday 3rd April:
- fly Melbourne to LA to Orlando - drive to Sawgrass.

4th & 5th:
- play the Dye & Stadium Course


6th
- drive from Sawgrass to August

7th-12th:
- MASTERS
- possibly play Sage Valley on the 8th

13th:
Drive to Atlanta
Fly Atlanta to San Fran
Drive to Pebble Beach

14th & 15th:
- play Pebble and Spyglass

16th:
- Fly to Vegas
- Play Shadow Creek

17 & 18th:
- Play Cascata & Wolf Creek.

19th:
Fly Vegas to LA.
Fly LA to Melbourne.

Any help would be great! Thanks in advance!

D4S


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 04:39 PM

Do you have Masters tickets?

How are you getting on Shadow Creek?

Thatís a lot of flying and traveling in two weeks. Iíd be worried about lost luggage, clubs etc with that much flying.

Just something to consider.
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 04:40 PM

Play Palmetto G.C. while in & around Augusta

Edit to add, even if you can pull off Sage Valley, spend a day and do Palmetto.

Edited by Almostscratchonce, 19 December 2018 - 04:41 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 04:43 PM

View PostBrianMcG, on 19 December 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

Do you have Masters tickets?

How are you getting on Shadow Creek?

That's a lot of flying and traveling in two weeks. I'd be worried about lost luggage, clubs etc with that much flying.

Just something to consider.

Yep, will have Masters tickets through an Australian tour group.

Plan for Shadow Creek was to stay at an MGM hotel - are they still connected?

It's going to be a jam packed schedule but coming from Australia we need to fit a lot in.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 05:38 PM

View PostDrivesFourShow, on 19 December 2018 - 04:43 PM, said:

View PostBrianMcG, on 19 December 2018 - 04:39 PM, said:

Do you have Masters tickets?

How are you getting on Shadow Creek?

That's a lot of flying and traveling in two weeks. I'd be worried about lost luggage, clubs etc with that much flying.

Just something to consider.

Yep, will have Masters tickets through an Australian tour group.

Plan for Shadow Creek was to stay at an MGM hotel - are they still connected?

It's going to be a jam packed schedule but coming from Australia we need to fit a lot in.

Staying at MGM doesn't guarantee you a tee time, it gives you the opportunity of getting a tee time. I don't know how often people get turned down, but it does happen. Legendary trip though! If it were me, I'd fly from SF to Bandon and forget about Las vegas. But Vegas will be great too.

Edited by mci711, 19 December 2018 - 05:39 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 05:55 PM

Is Las Vegas locked in as the final stop on the trip? I only ask because your last 3 courses are not what I would put as high up a bucket list as the others, and those will be the most lasting memories. I would almost worry that Sawgrass, or certainly some of the detail from that experience, would be forgotten at the end of that two week whirlwind.

Also, not for nothing, I'd propose either 1) Kiawah Ocean Course + one of the others in the area or 2) Pinehurst #2 and new #4 or #8 over TPC Sawgrass. Experience at Ocean Course and at Pinehurst is far superior IMHO. Unless Sawgrass is a bucket list course that cannot be left off. Both Pinehurst and Kiawah are within the same approximate drive from Augusta as Sawgrass would be.

Edited by umassgolfer, 19 December 2018 - 05:55 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 06:19 PM

A couple of suggestions:

1. Fly into Charlotte from LA and play Pinehurst No.2
2. Drive to Kiawah and play Ocean Course
3. Drive to Augusta/Sage Valley
4. Drive to Sawgrass and play TPC
5. Fly from Jacksonville (or Orlando) to Chicago and play Erin Hills & Whistling Straights (need to check weather for for the season cause itís early)
6. Fly from Chicago to San Fran and Play Pebble and other Pebble courses (note there could also be weather concerns during time of year).
7. Fly back home from San Fran

If you do want to go to Vegas I would do it before getting to San Fran as there are lots of direct flights into Vegas and then make Pebble your last stop.  Also, keep in mind you typically can only get on Shadow Mon-Thur and there are no guarantees that you will get to play without a connection (make sure to check there are no major conferences in town or tournaments at Shadow that week).

IMO Shadow Creek (while an awesome course) is not worth an extra flight unless you need to experience Vegas (kinda of meh to me).

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 06:33 PM

View PostDrivesFourShow, on 19 December 2018 - 04:35 PM, said:

Hi Team,

I'm organizing a Masters 2020 trip for 6-8 golfers from Australia.

Hoping you can provide any help, insight or info on the itinerary below in terms of best airports to fly in and out of, where should we drive to and from and are we playing the right golf courses.

Here is the loose plan:

Friday 3rd April:
- fly Melbourne to LA to Orlando - drive to Sawgrass.

4th & 5th:
- play the Dye & Stadium Course


6th
- drive from Sawgrass to August

7th-12th:
- MASTERS
- possibly play Sage Valley on the 8th

13th:
Drive to Atlanta
Fly Atlanta to San Fran
Drive to Pebble Beach

14th & 15th:
- play Pebble and Spyglass

16th:
- Fly to Vegas
- Play Shadow Creek

17 & 18th:
- Play Cascata & Wolf Creek.

19th:
Fly Vegas to LA.
Fly LA to Melbourne.

Any help would be great! Thanks in advance!

D4S


Pretty awesome agenda. Sounds like money is not really a concern, so why not just fly into Jacksonville?
Sawgrass doesn't really float my boat, I would spend a couple of days in Sea Island (St. Simons Island, GA) and play Seaside twice (but I'm biased, I live there)...or if anyone is a member of RM or Kingston or the like, there are some really good private options.

Consider flying to LA instead of SFO and driving to Pebble, Vegas, then back to LA. You may have an 8 hour drive to Vegas, but it will take you 6 hours to drive from Pebble, give the rental back, check in and fly, then rent another car in Vegas.

All that being said, I would skip Vegas and drive to Bandon and play there instead, then finally fly to MEL from SFO.

Message me if you need any further info....

Cheers!

Edited by OutBackHack, 19 December 2018 - 06:37 PM.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 07:52 PM

Better option in Florida would be Streamsong, better than Sawgrass IMO.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 09:57 PM

Thanks everyone for your info and suggestions, it's all very useful and very much appreciated!

Keep it coming if you have anything to add...


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 11:36 PM

Stick to Florida/Georgia and Cali for golf. Last year in Austin, TX our Masters event it was 35 degrees and raining. Vegas would work for weather but Iíd also skip it. Iíve lived in North Carolina and wouldnít risk Pinehurst that time of year. Arizona is an option but golf is meh.

If it were me Iíd play...

Kiawah Ocean Course, Streamsong, Pebble (and Pasatiempo). You could also try to contact some private clubs, especially if any of your mates are members of a high end course. Just donít try it on any of the Top10s... they will most likely all decline. Also, all private courses near Augusta open their doors to guests around the Masters for $$$. Donít be afraid to call any of them.

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 11:56 PM

If we go to Kiawah, which course should we play alongside The Ocean Course. And is it best to stay on-course?

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 04:21 AM

View PostDrivesFourShow, on 19 December 2018 - 11:56 PM, said:

If we go to Kiawah, which course should we play alongside The Ocean Course. And is it best to stay on-course?

You could stay in Charleston and play Harbour Town the other day.

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 04:44 AM

Legendary trip in the making!!!!

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:28 AM

View Postbabyfade, on 20 December 2018 - 04:21 AM, said:

View PostDrivesFourShow, on 19 December 2018 - 11:56 PM, said:

If we go to Kiawah, which course should we play alongside The Ocean Course. And is it best to stay on-course?

You could stay in Charleston and play Harbour Town the other day.

Just remember the PGA plays Harbor Town the week after the Masters. Youíd have to see when it closes to the public, and maybe deal with Tournament infrastructure.

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 07:41 AM

Fantastic trip!  I'd definitely vote for Pinehurst over Sawgrass.  I was in Pinehurst this past April the weekend before the Masters and the weather was excellent.  Plus the resort is just a magical place.  I think you'd get more bang for your buck by playing #2, #4, and #8 over the Sawgrass courses.  

I am also voting for hitting up Bandon during the trip and eliminating Vegas.

Either way, there are no wrong choices.
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Posted 20 December 2018 - 09:48 AM

I may be in the minority here, but TPC Sawgrass is by far my favorite public course mentioned here (although I havenít played Pebble or Streamsong).  That being said Pinehurst is one of my favorite places in the world and Kiawah is great as well (I have played the Ocean Course a bunch).

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 11:34 AM

I hear Sawgrass is over rated, Streamsong and bandon could be in the mix

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 11:43 AM

View Postceejay81, on 20 December 2018 - 07:41 AM, said:

Fantastic trip!  I'd definitely vote for Pinehurst over Sawgrass.  I was in Pinehurst this past April the weekend before the Masters and the weather was excellent.  Plus the resort is just a magical place.  I think you'd get more bang for your buck by playing #2, #4, and #8 over the Sawgrass courses.  

I am also voting for hitting up Bandon during the trip and eliminating Vegas.

Either way, there are no wrong choices.

The newly designed Pinehurst #4 just opened this year and the initial reviews are that it's phenomenal. And I know that a huge group of Aussies come to Pinehurst every year on their way to the Masters (OP - is this the same group you're a part of?)

I agree on nixing Vegas in favor of something else. Unless the group consists of a bunch of college kids.

This sounds like one heck of a trip.

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 01:03 PM

I am HUGELY in agreement to skip vegas and add Bandon in its place


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Posted 20 December 2018 - 03:32 PM

How are you getting on Sage that near the Masters? Pretty big celebrity hangout/accomodation spot and a tough tee time during that time.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 01:45 AM

Add a plus one for Vegas. While the courses are awesome but not as good as pebble or pinehurst, the entire Vegas experience has to be lived once (at least if most of you haven't been).
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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:07 AM

i'd play sawgrass ... you've plenty of courses in australia that mirror, to some extent, pinehurst and streamsong ... sawgrass is a unique design ... played it last summer and think it's a great course ... pinehurst is a greate resort and #2 and #4 are fantastic, obviously, so you can't go wrong with either ... someone mentioned erin hills and whistling straits, but i doubt they'd be open in early april ...

no idea about shadow, but vegas is about as over-rated an experience as you can get, but that's just me ...

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:34 PM

View Postumassgolfer, on 19 December 2018 - 05:55 PM, said:

Is Las Vegas locked in as the final stop on the trip? I only ask because your last 3 courses are not what I would put as high up a bucket list as the others, and those will be the most lasting memories. I would almost worry that Sawgrass, or certainly some of the detail from that experience, would be forgotten at the end of that two week whirlwind.

Also, not for nothing, I'd propose either 1) Kiawah Ocean Course + one of the others in the area or 2) Pinehurst #2 and new #4 or #8 over TPC Sawgrass. Experience at Ocean Course and at Pinehurst is far superior IMHO. Unless Sawgrass is a bucket list course that cannot be left off. Both Pinehurst and Kiawah are within the same approximate drive from Augusta as Sawgrass would be.

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 09:47 AM

That sounds like an amazing golf trip. I hope you keep us all posted and post tons of pics!

Enjoy all that awesome golf.


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Posted 10 January 2019 - 12:58 PM

I agree on the suggestions to skip the Vegas leg.  Especially if you plan on the whole Vegas experience, which is probably unavoidable, going to play golf every day is gonna get old.

Just add a couple of courses in Monterrey or SF area and stay there.

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