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#31 hangontight

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 02:55 PM

I keep out of the drama but this(above) put me on the floor :rofl: .  LOL. You all should all meet in person in 2019.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 06:18 PM

One option my son had was as a junior merit at a country club. I am not sure how widespread this option is around the country. A junior merit is a junior aged golfer (up to 21 yrs) who has full access to all golf facilities for a nominal fee ($10 per month). Our club had 36 holes and a nice short game facility. The club also had very strong junior golf program for the members which gave my son a built-in friend network and very good competition. They admitted about 8 juniors each year (4 girls and 4 boys) in the merit program. They interviewed and submitted school grades, with expectations that they would volunteer during the summer with junior golf camps. They were expected to act in a gentlemanly and lady like attitude when interacting with the adult members and staff. Many juniors (merits and members) received D1 scholarships for golf. They also competed in inter club competitions for juniors with many clubs in the Northern California Bay area that also have merit programs. This program was invaluable to get my son to the level he now competes while making very good friendships.
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 06:54 PM

View Posthattrick23, on 19 December 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

One option my son had was as a junior merit at a country club. I am not sure how widespread this option is around the country. A junior merit is a junior aged golfer (up to 21 yrs) who has full access to all golf facilities for a nominal fee ($10 per month). Our club had 36 holes and a nice short game facility. The club also had very strong junior golf program for the members which gave my son a built-in friend network and very good competition. They admitted about 8 juniors each year (4 girls and 4 boys) in the merit program. They interviewed and submitted school grades, with expectations that they would volunteer during the summer with junior golf camps. They were expected to act in a gentlemanly and lady like attitude when interacting with the adult members and staff. Many juniors (merits and members) received D1 scholarships for golf. They also competed in inter club competitions for juniors with many clubs in the Northern California Bay area that also have merit programs. This program was invaluable to get my son to the level he now competes while making very good friendships.
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Wow, that sounds like a fantastic program! More clubs should offer this.
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Posted 19 December 2018 - 07:12 PM

View Postdpb5031, on 19 December 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

View Posthattrick23, on 19 December 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

One option my son had was as a junior merit at a country club. I am not sure how widespread this option is around the country. A junior merit is a junior aged golfer (up to 21 yrs) who has full access to all golf facilities for a nominal fee ($10 per month). Our club had 36 holes and a nice short game facility. The club also had very strong junior golf program for the members which gave my son a built-in friend network and very good competition. They admitted about 8 juniors each year (4 girls and 4 boys) in the merit program. They interviewed and submitted school grades, with expectations that they would volunteer during the summer with junior golf camps. They were expected to act in a gentlemanly and lady like attitude when interacting with the adult members and staff. Many juniors (merits and members) received D1 scholarships for golf. They also competed in inter club competitions for juniors with many clubs in the Northern California Bay area that also have merit programs. This program was invaluable to get my son to the level he now competes while making very good friendships.
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Wow, that sounds like a fantastic program! More clubs should offer this.

Agree 100%.  I actually had this discussion just last week with an older guy who advocates it.  I Think about it everyday afternoon when I drive by the private club (5 minutes from my house) and the fairways are a complete ghost town.  Further, they could restrict access to afternoons or something that would be non-intrusive to the memberships. Obviously the kids canít go play Saturday mornings at 8:00.  

At what age did kids become eligible for this program?

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Posted 19 December 2018 - 07:22 PM

Eligibility started in 7 grade although most were in 8th grade. I know that doesn't help younger kids. They did restrict merits cannot play on weekend mornings before noon. This was not a problem as my son would spend all afternoon at the club. Afternoons during the week were also good since they get out of school at around 3. It really is a good program to grow the game.


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Posted 19 December 2018 - 11:22 PM

View Posthattrick23, on 19 December 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

One option my son had was as a junior merit at a country club. I am not sure how widespread this option is around the country. A junior merit is a junior aged golfer (up to 21 yrs) who has full access to all golf facilities for a nominal fee ($10 per month). Our club had 36 holes and a nice short game facility. The club also had very strong junior golf program for the members which gave my son a built-in friend network and very good competition. They admitted about 8 juniors each year (4 girls and 4 boys) in the merit program. They interviewed and submitted school grades, with expectations that they would volunteer during the summer with junior golf camps. They were expected to act in a gentlemanly and lady like attitude when interacting with the adult members and staff. Many juniors (merits and members) received D1 scholarships for golf. They also competed in inter club competitions for juniors with many clubs in the Northern California Bay area that also have merit programs. This program was invaluable to get my son to the level he now competes while making very good friendships.
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Posted 20 December 2018 - 09:21 AM

View Postkekoa, on 19 December 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 December 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 18 December 2018 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 18 December 2018 - 03:54 AM, said:


K,

Spend more money and time on E and S and not just on B

Better ROI

IMHO

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Ummm... NO

I wouldn't even wish that upon you or Leezer

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 09:30 AM

View PostTigerMom, on 20 December 2018 - 09:21 AM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 19 December 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:

View Postheavy_hitter, on 19 December 2018 - 01:16 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 18 December 2018 - 08:22 PM, said:

View PostTigerMom, on 18 December 2018 - 03:54 AM, said:

K,

Spend more money and time on E and S and not just on B

Better ROI

IMHO

TM

TigerMom your wife?

Ummm... NO

I wouldn't even wish that upon you or Leezer

Very rude SM

JM is v nice to me

Love,
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Posted 20 December 2018 - 09:33 AM

View Postkekoa, on 19 December 2018 - 01:35 PM, said:



Ummm... NO

I wouldn't even wish that upon you or Leezer

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 10:06 AM

View Postleezer99, on 19 December 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

At our course kids play free 7 days a week after twilight starts.  They just have to wait for an open tee time.  You should see the putting green just before then, kids everywhere.  I'm lucky that with my membership I can go out any time 24/7 so my son and I usually go out just ahead of the kids or we grab a couple of kids and just go out right before the official twilight time.

Our course was recently taken over by a mid level golf course management company that reports back to the city so we'll see how long that lasts.


I pay more for junior golf then I ever did when I played. There are no discounts here. Costs us $20 to play and that's after 3. A few courses have 50% but their rate are very high. I know of one course that charges like $80 a month and when walking can play for free after 2. But that's an hour a way.  I keep looking for a better option but nothing so far.

do some of you guys have memberships for your juniors?


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Posted 20 December 2018 - 11:28 AM

View Postdarter79, on 20 December 2018 - 10:06 AM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 19 December 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

At our course kids play free 7 days a week after twilight starts.  They just have to wait for an open tee time.  You should see the putting green just before then, kids everywhere.  I'm lucky that with my membership I can go out any time 24/7 so my son and I usually go out just ahead of the kids or we grab a couple of kids and just go out right before the official twilight time.

Our course was recently taken over by a mid level golf course management company that reports back to the city so we'll see how long that lasts.


I pay more for junior golf then I ever did when I played. There are no discounts here. Costs us $20 to play and that's after 3. A few courses have 50% but their rate are very high. I know of one course that charges like $80 a month and when walking can play for free after 2. But that's an hour a way.  I keep looking for a better option but nothing so far.

do some of you guys have memberships for your juniors?

Look around and see what options there are. One of the best deals going is the young executive club Corp memberships out there.

Even if your over 40 club Corp has deals to join. Many times you can join with no initiation fees even though they will tell you itís 5k - 10k to join if you call them With club Corp you can get into high end clubs with little initation if you know how move around clubs.

An equity club can be a good deal too and makes a lot sense but that is a another topic and you may need to put down a lot cash.

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Posted 20 December 2018 - 06:23 PM

View Postmrshinsa, on 19 December 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

View Posthattrick23, on 19 December 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

One option my son had was as a junior merit at a country club. I am not sure how widespread this option is around the country. A junior merit is a junior aged golfer (up to 21 yrs) who has full access to all golf facilities for a nominal fee ($10 per month). Our club had 36 holes and a nice short game facility. The club also had very strong junior golf program for the members which gave my son a built-in friend network and very good competition. They admitted about 8 juniors each year (4 girls and 4 boys) in the merit program. They interviewed and submitted school grades, with expectations that they would volunteer during the summer with junior golf camps. They were expected to act in a gentlemanly and lady like attitude when interacting with the adult members and staff. Many juniors (merits and members) received D1 scholarships for golf. They also competed in inter club competitions for juniors with many clubs in the Northern California Bay area that also have merit programs. This program was invaluable to get my son to the level he now competes while making very good friendships.
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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:20 AM

This article talks about some of very high cost

https://www.golfdige...rong-side-of-it

It is same in other sports too

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 05:41 PM

Attended a Q & A session with Andrew Larkin- Asst. head coach of the UCLA golf team and he said something very interesting.  Not really a revelation, but just cool to hear from someone who is very involved in recruiting.  

This applies mainly to those living in California and other states that have strong junior tours ie. Florida, Tx, etc.

Anyhow, Andrew said that a top kid doesn't need to play every single tournament and more importantly he/she doesn't need to follow the ajga tour around.  He mentioned a lot of kids/parents get caught up in the allure of ajga when there may be other very good local options available.  This cuts down on the cost of tournament golf significantly.

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Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:33 PM

View Postleezer99, on 07 January 2019 - 05:47 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 07 January 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

Attended a Q & A session with Andrew Larkin- Asst. head coach of the UCLA golf team and he said something very interesting.  Not really a revelation, but just cool to hear from someone who is very involved in recruiting.  

This applies mainly to those living in California and other states that have strong junior tours ie. Florida, Tx, etc.

Anyhow, Andrew said that a top kid doesn't need to play every single tournament and more importantly he/she doesn't need to follow the ajga tour around.  He mentioned a lot of kids/parents get caught up in the allure of ajga when there may be other very good local options available.  This cuts down on the cost of tournament golf significantly.
Kekoa - that is correct but did he mention 9 year olds don't need to pay to go to golf camps? Probably not.
  

  Nope, but he did say that he will be setting up junior camps on a quarterly basis now on.  :to_become_senile:


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Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:42 PM

View Posthattrick23, on 20 December 2018 - 06:23 PM, said:

View Postmrshinsa, on 19 December 2018 - 11:22 PM, said:

View Posthattrick23, on 19 December 2018 - 06:18 PM, said:

One option my son had was as a junior merit at a country club. I am not sure how widespread this option is around the country. A junior merit is a junior aged golfer (up to 21 yrs) who has full access to all golf facilities for a nominal fee ($10 per month). Our club had 36 holes and a nice short game facility. The club also had very strong junior golf program for the members which gave my son a built-in friend network and very good competition. They admitted about 8 juniors each year (4 girls and 4 boys) in the merit program. They interviewed and submitted school grades, with expectations that they would volunteer during the summer with junior golf camps. They were expected to act in a gentlemanly and lady like attitude when interacting with the adult members and staff. Many juniors (merits and members) received D1 scholarships for golf. They also competed in inter club competitions for juniors with many clubs in the Northern California Bay area that also have merit programs. This program was invaluable to get my son to the level he now competes while making very good friendships.
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Oh man how I wish our local Country Club would embrace this. I will never be able to join. Its like 100K to join plus plus plus and a waiting list. Only real club on the island and equity owned by bazillionairs. Ghost town every afternoon and all summer. Goddamn waste of green grass if you ask me. (which they didnt)
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Posted 07 January 2019 - 06:59 PM

View Postleezer99, on 07 January 2019 - 06:51 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 07 January 2019 - 06:33 PM, said:

View Postleezer99, on 07 January 2019 - 05:47 PM, said:

View Postkekoa, on 07 January 2019 - 05:41 PM, said:

Attended a Q & A session with Andrew Larkin- Asst. head coach of the UCLA golf team and he said something very interesting.  Not really a revelation, but just cool to hear from someone who is very involved in recruiting.  

This applies mainly to those living in California and other states that have strong junior tours ie. Florida, Tx, etc.

Anyhow, Andrew said that a top kid doesn't need to play every single tournament and more importantly he/she doesn't need to follow the ajga tour around.  He mentioned a lot of kids/parents get caught up in the allure of ajga when there may be other very good local options available.  This cuts down on the cost of tournament golf significantly.
Kekoa - that is correct but did he mention 9 year olds don't need to pay to go to golf camps? Probably not.
  

  Nope, but he did say that he will be setting up junior camps on a quarterly basis now on.  :to_become_senile:

The camps are fine I suppose but I'd be wary about another coach giving swing instruction once you land on a full time instructor.  If I were a coach it would bother me if another coach were giving instruction based off of half a dozen swings they watched without knowing the junior golfers tendencies, etc.  Paying a coach is enough of a burden... imagine having to pay them to un-teach your junior golfer something they picked up at a camp.

Just an FYI.  About 10 of the 12 kids on UCLA have a dedicated full time coach.   Larkin will only help kids with minor stuff or if their primary coach is unavailable.  He's PGA certified, but no way in hell is he trying to make a major change.  He makes it a point to shadow his kid's coaches to see exactly what they are working on and the verbiage they use to get it done.  ie. some coaches are very technical and others are much more feel and visual.

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Posted 08 January 2019 - 12:18 AM

Yup it was fun. Hilight was hanging out with Devon Bling. Such a nice mannered and modest kid.  I wont do it again until my son is 12 or so. Plus he would rather attend usc 😬

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 08:54 AM

Hi Guys,

Newbie here.  Actually joined the forum looking for a HMT, but what a great discussion.

Personally, I feel it depends on the kid sometimes as well.  Some kids are drawn to wanting more and more golf.  Others push it away.

I couldn't see bringing a 8-9 yr old for advance lessons unless they were super drawn to it.

My long story. We live in VA. About 2 1/2 years ago.  I took my daughter and son to a driving range to kill some time.  Secretly hoping my daughter would like golf.
Son played baseball.  My son (15) came back to the car with the look in his eyes.  2 years later he is a HS Varsity golfer.  We are trying to balance the budget with golf as well.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 10:50 AM

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 11:08 AM

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